Sources for movie budget

[Barnack]

The idea was made to collect all in the same place the different source for movie budget that it is possible to use.

 

By far the best one is when the movie used Louisiana tax credit and use that reference made public for taxpayer:

https://fastlane.louisianaeconomicdevelopment.com/Film/FilmSearch.aspx

 

Others:

If it was shot in California since 2013, it could end up here:

http://film.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/CFC-Approved-Projects-List.pdf

 

Not close to be has good, it is only list the expenditures that qualified for a tax credit, but it can give an idea.

 

If it was shot in the state of new-york you could find them here:

https://esd.ny.gov/esd-media-center/reports?tid[]=516&keys=tax credit

 

In New-Zealand:

http://www.nzfilm.co.nz/funding/past-funding-decisions

 

France:

http://www.profession-spectacle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/La-production-cinématographique-en-2016.pdf

 

For example if you want to look the first John Wick, it spent 29.676 million in the state of NY alone and the TV series blue blood spent 91 million for the season 4 there:

https://cdn.esd.ny.gov/Reports/2015_2016/Q1_2016_FTC_Report.pdf

 

Do you know other good sources ? Like does Australia/Georgia/UK/Canada ever make them available to us ?

 

Edited June 28, 2017 by Barnack

[Barnack]

So I'll start will all those available from the Louisiana source:

 

In Louisiana you can see a breakdown over time of movie that were planned but never made, the total expense, the expense in Louisiana (that give an idea below/over the line cost), expense in Los Angeles too. Those budget number are the exact same used in Sony leaked accounting, so maybe they are not 100% legit, but they are audited by the state and are those that are used in studio sheet and what people use to calculate their participation bonus.

 

Here all the movie that had a budget of 5 million or more that used the tax credit, approximative gross cost (note Invertigo ended up never being made, same for Gambit but you can see how much the studio planned to spend on them and Twilight is for 2 movie being shot at the same time).

 

Older movie didn't used the real total cost, just the local state cost, so stuff like Green lantern were not just 118 million nor Jonah Hex 44.3, you can search for the movie title in the link above for more details.

 

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The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn 247300432 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 235329191 Untitled Hasbro Battleship Project 214995758 Invertigo 194911224 The Untitled Tom Cruise Project 160000000 Terminator:  Genesis 158477632 DEEPWATER HORIZON 156000000 G.I. Joe II: Cobra Strikes 155173377 GAMBIT 154975309 THE FANTASTIC FOUR 154778784 UNTITLED WOLVERINE SEQUEL aka JUAREZ 126503334 Green Lantern 118134138 The Magnificent Seven 107632628 Ender's Game 102038483 Expendables 3 100000000 Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter 99536385 Jack Reacher 2 96283432 Django Unchained 86500000 22 Jump Street 84510288 Battle: Los Angeles 82918061 Geostorm 81927423 Now You See Me 80253681 Olympus Has Fallen 80044580 Two Guns 77056131 The Expendables 69397457 Daddy's Home 68623781 RED 67099961 Red 66935094 Mena 66569420 UNDERWATER 65087631 THE FREE STATE OF JONES 65000000 Hunter-Killer 64804294 The Tomb 64521790 Captain Phillips 63165132 TBP 59999985 Dogfight (The Campaign) 59395830 Broken City 56770611 21 Jump Street 54749086 Beautiful Creatures 53000006 Glastonbury: Isle of Light 50000000 Headshot 49995022 The Big Short 49558643 The Extincts 48553999 The Crow 48458019 Drive Angry 48299159 Jonah Hex 44300000 Get Hard 44070852 The Host 44000000 Parker 43711091 The Changeling 43073681 Secretariat 43000000 The Legend of Hercules 42929047 Busted 42865199 The End of the World 41887583 Medallion 41588261 Timmy Failure 41500000 Maze Runner 41100000 Grudge Match 39718623 Grudge Match 39718623 HOMEFRONT 39498719 Looper 38683513 Trespass 38674575 Focus 37897642 Focus 37897642 The Mechanic 36736346 The Hail Mary 36700000 Raven 36476642 Colombiana 34256300 Best of Me 34245087 The Big Valley 34000000 Playing the Field 33968895 Selfless 33645821 Selfless 33645821 ADAM JONES (fka UNTITLED CHEF PROJECT) 32720685 Untitled John Wells Project 32720685 The Hungry Rabbit Jumps 31000000 Contraband 30825341 Pitch Perfect 2 30628660 Shark Night 3D 28623000 Shark Night 3D 28623000 My All American 28000000 American Ultra 28000000 Mortal Kombat 27873883 Girl Trip 27676331 Thunder Run 27000000 Heat 27000000 Straw Dogs 27000000 When the Game Stands Tall 26729822 Knockout 26596669 STARBRIGHT 26164116 Oldboy 25815745 Oldboy 25815745 Motel 25268122 Motel 25268122 Bitter Pill 24200000 The Lucky One 24000000 Cogan's Trade 23736656 Bad Moms 22247484 The Butler 22103023 Leatherface 3D 21949575 Broad Daylight 21541535 Pitch Perfect 21430272 Earthbound 20649528 The Lost 20197971 Men of Respect 20000000 12 Years a Slave 20000000 True to the Game 19998183 Publish This Book 19997755 CHRIST THE LORD - OUT OF EGYPT 19299814 LAST KNIGHTS 19199368 Search Party 18549906 LA Art Show 18000000 Trumbo 17816435 Hot Tub Time Machine 2 17576908 Left Behind 17340504 Snitch 17321455 Fire with Fire 17093817 Blood Red Sky 17082500 Kidnap 16972375 Shock and Awe 16450000 I Saw The Light 16410881 When The Bough Breaks 16243443 The Fields 16100000 Universal Soldier 4 15955405 Universal Soldier 4 15955405 Paperboy 15682840 Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters 15490041 Criminal Empire for Dummies 15207361 Midnight Special 14925804 Lay the Favorite 14770277 Catwalk 14700000 Empire State 14556044 So Undercover 14114783 The Prince 13895185 Wendy 13861771 Our Brand is Crisis 13783313 Ready Player One 13616601 The Courier 13603014 The Courier 13603014 KEANU 13552841 Freelancers 13523531 Iceman 13476326 The Billionaire Boys Club 13000000 Love Wedding Marriage 13000000 The Loft 12981379 The Pendant 12200000 Tap the Heat 12158602 BEYOND SKYLINE 12000000 Kidnapping Freddy Heineken 12000000 Dark Places 11945777 Season of the Witch 11849710 Conan the Barbarian 11670425 Father of Innovation 11520237 Mudbound 11134934 Butter 10844000 Random 10663492 THE DOMESTICS 10584000 Catch 44 10500000 The Beguiled 10493207 Charles Dickens and Mr. Kruge 10396467 Untitled Skydance Thriller 10074994 Jeff, Who Lives At Home 10000000 Devil's Due 9965865 The Chameleon 9900000 Ax Men - Season 8 9864773 Shotgun Wedding 9850000 Supercon aka Con Men 9800000 ELVIS & NIXON 9777564 Killer Joe 9525981 WHEN WE FIRST MET 9500000 Elsa and Fred 9463734 Elsa and Fred 9463734 Man Down 9450708 Valencia 9377989 Untitled Diablo Cody Project 9130349 Black & White  8800000 Fury 8800000 The East 8544574 American Heist 8500000 97 Minutes 8460727 NFL Kickoff 2010 8312482 Big Show Project 8257552 The Chaperone 8193659 The Haunting In Georgia 8142640 Benji 8054924 Maggie 8011385 Flypaper 7974562 The Whole Truth 7940000 WIld Oats 7601714 Meeting Evil 7552500 Mr. Right 7525149 Piranha 2 7500000 Chasing the Hawk 7491199 Dungeons and Dragons 3 7460689 Barefoot 7432000 The Ledge 7323768 Killing Karma  7287068 Mississippi Grind 7149942 Leonie 7095769 Assassination Nation 6950000 Brother's Keeper 6874558 From the Rough 6839686 Whiskey Bay 6675000 Kickboxer 6672801 Big Ginger 6665531 The Burning Sands  6662035 The Final Girls 6538513 Wild Card 6434044 Sleepless Beauty 6300000 JEEPERS CREEPERS 3 6200000 HALF TO DEATH 6199334 Angry Little Gods 5953980 Switch 5747000 99 Homes 5650900 DALLAS BUYER'S CLUB 5602247 The Hot Flashes 5570000 Ghost 5557088 2011 Voodoo Experience 5537130 Never Back Down II 5524722 Pawn Shop Chronicles 5233007 Nothing to Fear 5209292 Nothing to Fear 5209292 Ticking Clock 5080480 Una Vida 5076084 North of Hell 5046499 Desiree Dream 5002510 The Town That Dreaded Sundown 5000000 Phantasmagoria: The Movie 5000000 The Last Exorcism II 5000000 Crone 4999995 The Starving Games 4999278 ZIPPER 4997161 Heart, Baby 4978917 Stash House 4905304 The Power of Few 4900000 The Philly Kid 4893742 Dragon Eyes 2 4877130 The Cellar 4827293 Changing of the Guard 4817526 Dragon Eyes 4797184 Dragon Eyes 4797184 Ain't Them Bodies Saints 4792999 Triptych 4708469 St. Patrick's Day 4652794 Hours 4599592 Transit 4568024 HOUSE OF HORROR 4559186 No One Lives 4500000 Cool Dog 4483023 Expendables 2 4396095 Camera Store 4392000 2013 Essence Music Festival 4334233 Aztec Warrior 4209820 Dermaphoria 4141003 The Runner 4000000 Flip My Food 4000000 The Devil and The Deep Blue Sea 4000000 Mirrors 2 4000000 Vipaka 3973854 Hateship Friendship Courtship Loveship & Marriage 3800000 RETURN TO SENDER 3741944 Swamp Shark 3712887 Baytown Disco 3700000 Mighty Fine 3700000 Joe Dirt 2: Beautiful Loser 3699000 Peril 3663000 2011 Bayou Country Superfest 3629000 GLITCH, THE 3607615 Mind Puppets 3596458 The Last Word 3505867 Roar: The Jaws of the Lion 3500000 THE TALE 3500000 Dark Circles 3497633 Weapon 3427984 A Sort of Homecoming 3422082 CRAFTIQUE 3402095 DTrain 3400000 Booty Patrol 3376634 Temple 3367378 Schism 3310126 Schism 3310126 Super 3300000 Louisiana Caviar  3250000 Weather Wars 3199657 Weather Wars 3199657 Bad Ass 3 3170434 Bone in the Throat 3160310 Carjacked 3142025 Straight A's 3134590 The Door 3007254 Mortician 3000000 Rampage 2985550 Shreveport 2900000 One Nation Under God 2838828 Monumental  2800000 Vincent N Roxxy 2796882 Alien Tornado 2758137 Miami Magma 2749483 Hell Baby 2632027 Haunted High School 2600000 Refugio 2555970 Tarantula 2500431 Blood Out 2500000 THE FREE WORLD 2500000 BURN 2500000 Blood Out 2500000 Remnants 2500000 Death House 2500000 Video Girl 2500000

Edited June 17, 2017 by Barnack

[aabattery]

Nice resource!

 

I know that the NZ Film Commission has a fairly extensive database that shows how much funding they provide to particular movies. I can't find anything their showing the whole budget, but gives you an idea. Also I think it's only for New Zealand films so not the greatest resource around, but other countries might have a similar thing going on.

 

http://www.nzfilm.co.nz/funding/past-funding-decisions

Edited June 17, 2017 by aabattery

[baumer]

So are you saying that Breaking Dawn 2 had a budget of 247 million?

[Barnack]

2 hours ago, baumer said:

So are you saying that Breaking Dawn 2 had a budget of 247 million?

 

Im not 100% sure, but I think part 1-2 were shot together and that would be the cost for both.

[baumer]

3 hours ago, Barnack said:

 

Im not 100% sure, but I think part 1-2 were shot together and that would be the cost for both.

 

The reported budget for each was 125.  So that would make sense.

[Barnack]

6 hours ago, aabattery said:

Nice resource!

 

I know that the NZ Film Commission has a fairly extensive database that shows how much funding they provide to particular movies. I can't find anything their showing the whole budget, but gives you an idea. Also I think it's only for New Zealand films so not the greatest resource around, but other countries might have a similar thing going on.

 

http://www.nzfilm.co.nz/funding/past-funding-decisions

 

Thanks exactly what I was looking for, will add it to the list (if every jurisdiction do this, we will know every movie budget pretty clearly)

[lilmac]

This is fantastic. Extra 0 for the Tom Cruise movie? $1.6 billion. Hahaha

[Barnack]

Inspired by the recent Forbes work of finding Solo, Rogue One, Awaken, Last Jedi, company filling, using those company registered adress I went and did a quick look to try to find others registered company for a movie.

 

Here Thor 2, under the rather obvious codename ASGARD PRODUCTIONS II:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07596270

 

It seem to look like this:

Spending

30.178 7 april 2011 to 31 aug 2012
69.181 31 aug 2012 to 31 jan 2013
46.319 to 31 october 2013

Movie release here

19.015 to 31 july 2014
3.249 to 31 july 2015

 

 

Tax credit received:
4.595 april 2011 to 31 aug 2012
10.809 31 aug 2012 to 31 jan 2013
6.969 to 31 october 2013

Movie release here
3.213 to 31 july 2014
0.507 to 31 july 2015

 

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I am not 100% sure how to read this numbers, is 100% of the expense are in those or just those eligible for the tax credits ? What are the expense after the movie release, contractant / SFX people getting paid later, people bonus,  home ent material being made that have the rights for credits ? I really do not know.

 

Regardless, that would be for Thor 2 a gross production cost of 167.942m pound with 26.093m in tax credit.

 

Conversation ratio was around 1.6 USD for every pound around that time frame.

 

For an about 268m gross budget and a about 225m net one.

 

If we look at the expense just before the movie release, 233m gross budget and 197m net, that would be pratically the exact same has the first Guardian of the Galaxy made around the same time.