DUNKIRK WEEKEND THREAD | ABSOLUTELY NO SPOILERS | Official estimates Dunkirk 50.5M, GT 30.3M, SMH 22M, Apes 20.4M, Val 17M | Wonder Woman is the new summer champ with 389M total | Summer Sale is Live!

[MrPink]

3 minutes ago, Dexter of Suburbia said:

Dunkirk has a crazy good looking cast

 

I'm not gonna lie, Collins (Jack Lowden) is extremely handsome and I'm mostly straight?

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, CJohn said:

I don't buy that Kathryn Bigelow made a bad and/or disappointing movie.

Never seen K19: The Widowmaker, have ya?

[druv10]

Just came out of Dunkirk!!! Amazing movie, Nolan deserves an BD nomination. Best of the year and right up there with his best movies!!! It definitely deserves multiple viewings to just soak in everything. 

 

10/10

[dxmatrixdt]

19 minutes ago, grim22 said:

 

I think @Emperor Tele-Limai had pointed this out. When the real world is this crazy, people want pure escapism or uplifting things at the movies. It may also be part of the reason Wonder Woman is doing that well, pure heroism with no strings attached when the world is looking for it. Or why more "fun" movies are favored right now. People want to escape the real world in the movies, not see an extension of it. Political movies won't do well right now at all unless they are played as farce.

ahhh yes!  This is why Transcendence and Chappie failed IMO.  I was trying to theorize the box office from a social/psychological P.O.V. during this time and it seemed people were just not in the mood anymore after The Dark Knight and Inception popularized 'gloom' and woke up many people

[Dementeleus]

10 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

Worth noting that pre-Hurt Locker Bigelow didn't have a particularly great resume.

 

WAT

[grim22]

If Dunkirk gets to 56.3M, it will be the #5 OW of Summer 2017. If it doesn't, then Apes will be #5, lowest opening weekend for Top 5 weekends of summer since 2006. What an awful awful summer movie season in the end.

 

If repeats are allowed, then the top OWs this summer will be

 

Guardians 2

SMH

Wonder Woman

DM3

Guardians second weekend

Pirates

Wonder Woman second weekend

Apes

[Dementeleus]

DUNKIRK is a great experience, but I'm not yet convinced it's a great movie. 

[Kvikk Lunsj]

@MrPink

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Edited July 22, 2017 by Dexter of Suburbia

[aabattery]

11 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

Worth noting that pre-Hurt Locker Bigelow didn't have a particularly great resume.

 

This is a pretty wrong opinion.

[MrPink]

1 minute ago, Emperor Tele-Limai said:

 

WAT

 

[grim22]

1 minute ago, Emperor Tele-Limai said:

DUNKIRK is a great experience, but I'm not yet convinced it's a great movie. 

 

WORST. CHRIS. EVER.

[CJohn]

5 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Never seen K19: The Widowmaker, have ya?

No, I didn't, but it is actually fresh on RT.

[MrPink]

Just now, grim22 said:

 

WORST. CHRIS. EVER.

 

 

WORST CHRIS EVER

[CJohn]

3 minutes ago, Emperor Tele-Limai said:

DUNKIRK is a great experience, but I'm not yet convinced it's a great movie. 

What an awful human begin. 

 

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[Nova]

2 minutes ago, Emperor Tele-Limai said:

DUNKIRK is a great experience, but I'm not yet convinced it's a great movie. 

[WrathOfHan]

Awards Watch isn't always reliable, but here's what a user had to say:

 

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I guess being under embargo means I can't officially talk about the movie, but I guess in these forums it's ok? I saw it at a morning press screening on Monday. I will say this, the critics I've spoken to have been lukewarm about it. I thought it was a good movie but nowhere near the landmarks she's released the last 10 years. <would be considred spoilers under our policy? it's about the second act I think> It's palm sweat inducing stuff. Some of it does veer slightly towards "torture porn" territory. I can't complain though because there's some gripping moments in the film.

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"What Oscar potential do you see for it? Low-tier BP nom with some techs? (editing and sound)"

 

To tell you the truth, not that much. The editing is great, for the most part, but the film has a length issue - 20 minutes could have easily been chopped to tell a tighter, more concisely driven story. Bigelow's directing is solid as usual, but she's done better work in the past. Mark Boal's screenplay is kind of all over the place. The acting is great, but <spoilers under our policy? Real event and all, but removing to be safe>. I spoke to a few Oscar pundits post-screening and none of them really saw any Oscar prospects in its horizon, I liked the film more than they did but I can't really see it being a player. In fact, in some instances, it felt like I was watching Rob Zombie's The Devils Rejects, a movie which I actually really like by the way, but which is the opposite of "oscar bait."

Honestly, I'm not feeling its box office will be good at all. Buzz isn't there, it's a long movie, and I don't think audiences want something that's hard to watch like this right now.

[Kvikk Lunsj]

2 minutes ago, Emperor Tele-Limai said:

DUNKIRK is a great experience, but I'm not yet convinced it's a great movie. 

It is a great movie. Hopefully there is the Tom Hardy cut were it is 1 hour 40 minute verison of Tom Hardy and only Tom Hardy in Dunkirk.

[PenguinHyphy]

24 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

The fact that Detroit has no reviews or even whispers at this point makes me think it's heading towards worse reception than we thought. Too bad IMO.

It has been screening for a while now, and quite a few of my colleagues have seen it. I hear good things about it. If you are speaking about critics, they are not saying anything because they have an embargo. 

Edited July 22, 2017 by PenguinHyphy

[AniNate]

Just now, WrathOfHan said:

Awards Watch isn't always reliable, but here's what a user had to say:

 

Honestly, I'm not feeling its box office will be good at all. Buzz isn't there, it's a long movie, and I don't think audiences want something that's hard to watch like this right now.

Yeah, if it's "torture porn" it's definitely not going to appeal to the audiences drawn to the "triumph of the spirit" racism movies.

[Cochofles]

38 minutes ago, DealWithIt said:

 

And yet Homecoming is dropping like a rock, despite being "fun". And yet Dunkirk has few action set pieces, pace isn't that fast, it's dark and a bit depressing. 

 

And also, the notion that summer is just for fun blockbusters needs to die in a fire. It's not true anymore. 

At the end of the day, no matter how much we think we can assess trends and/or patterns, audiences will like whatever connects with them, regardless of what season, political climate, or social background is informing the movies. Wonder Woman 's and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 's smashing success seem to prove the whole "audiences want to see uplift and fun!" sentiment, yet SM:H's meh numbers and awful drops disprove it. Apes' mediocre tally seems to prove that dark-and-depressing is not good for the summer, yet Dunkirk comes in and disproves it. That's just the way things go.