WEEKEND THREAD | Weekend actuals (pg. 87 onward) - Dunkirk: 26.6M; The Emoji Movie: 24.5M; Girls Trip: 19.6M; Atomic Blonde: 18.2M; SM Homecoming: 13.2M; War For The POTA: 10.4M; Despicable Me 3: 7.4M; Valerian: 6.3M; Baby Driver: 3.9M; Wonder Woman: 3.3M

[Mojoguy]

MODS! Can you add RTH's SAT numbers to the topic title?

Come on now!

Edited July 30, 2017 by Mojoguy

[Shawn Robbins]

50 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:

Wow, RTH's 12.2 number would be over 50% increase for Dunkirk which puts $29m+ weekend in play. 

I can safely say I'll be doing my part tomorrow. Taking 9 others to see IMAX 70mm.

 

Again.

 

[Mojoguy]

Thanks to whoever added the SAT numbers to the title!

[MrGamer]

I'm going to see Dunkirk again tomorrow. We must purge the world of the evil known as The Emoji Movie. 

 

Edited July 30, 2017 by MrGamer2558

[That One Girl]

When Emoji Movie beats Dunkirk on Friday:

 

"THEY NEED TO SEND MORE SHIPS!"

 

When Dunkirk beats Emoji Movie on Saturday:

 

[WrathOfHan]

16 minutes ago, El Panda Machos said:

Three favorites of the year so far

 

A small budget stunner about race relations

 

A true cinematic experience

 

and

 

A family drama about the beginning of the relationship between the writers of the movie

TFW I think we agree  (Swap BD and Get Out tho) (Don't tell me you're talking about Dunkirk)

[CoolioD1]

2 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

TFW I think we agree  (Swap BD and Get Out tho) (Don't tell me you're talking about Dunkirk)

no he's talking about Raw.

[WrathOfHan]

1 minute ago, CoolioD1 said:

no he's talking about Raw.

 

[The Panda]

7 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

TFW I think we agree  (Swap BD and Get Out tho) (Don't tell me you're talking about Dunkirk)

[Barnack]

4 hours ago, Diana Prince said:

Thanks for the breakdown. How much of the domestic box office goes to the studio vs. overseas box office? I heard/read somewhere (I really do not recall where) that the studio only makes 25% of the profits from China. How does China compare to other overseas markets? Is it on par or exceptional? Thanks! Either way, maybe Apes will do better overseas. I know it started slow, but who knows?

Studio get about 53% of the domestic box office (it varies quite, small documentary get almost nothing, independants movies can get 35% but studio release is usually between 50-55%)

 

Studio movie tend to get around 40% in average overseas outside China, Sony rentention rate for is biggest title (like James Bond) looked like this:

Japan	49%
South Korea	47%
Germany	45%
Austria	45%
Australia	44%
UK	44%
Switzerland	44%
Belgium	43%
Spain	43%
Russia	42%
Brazil	41%
Italy	41%
Netherlands	41%
France	39%
Mexico	38%
China	25%

 

For is total annual slate it is a bit lower, but not that much, it looked like this:

Japan	47%
South Korea	47%
Germany	44%
Spain	44%
Belgium	43%
Switzerland	42%
Russia	42%
Austria	42%
Italy	41%
Australia	41%
Brazil	40%
Average	43%
Netherlands	40%
UK	40%
France	39%
Mexico	37%
China	25%

 

 

Has you see China seem to be quite a different case with 25%, but when you look at the profit margin (rental - cost of distributing the movie in the market) on a movie annual slate it look like this:

 

T	Retention rate	Profit margin
Switzerland	42%	29%
Netherlands	40%	28%
Austria	42%	27%
Belgium	43%	26%
UK	40%	23%
Australia	41%	22%
Russia	42%	22%
Germany	44%	22%
China	25%	21%
South Korea	47%	19%
France	39%	19%
Japan	47%	15%
Spain	44%	13%
Mexico	37%	13%
Brazil	40%	13%
Italy	41%	11%

 

Average

40%

23%

 

In term of net return it is just below the average and not that different that the rest (or worst than domestic), what make China a weaker market for most movie is the post theatrical (dvd/tv/etc...) not the box office.

[cax16]

Emoji movie was

[YM!]

Just now, cax16 said:

Emoji movie was

Agreed.

[baumer]

@Shawn is in the house!

[YM!]

Here's a thought: SPA's last fully animated movie Hotel Transylvania 2 had about $170M domestic run, Smurfs finished at $45M, Emoji is looking at $70M-$80M, and if we assume The Star does $50M. Their combined total might be under HT2.

[Plain Old Tele]

3 hours ago, YourMother said:

I do. But I like do something nice every now and then. Not to mention I change more for movies.

 

So you got paid to watch it. 

 

No sympathy.  

[aabattery]

2 minutes ago, Squadron Leader Tele said:

 

So you got paid to watch it. 

 

No sympathy.  

 

[WrathOfHan]

1 minute ago, aabattery said:

 

The gif and Cogman together are mesmerizing  

[Jonwo]

8 minutes ago, YourMother said:

Here's a thought: SPA's last fully animated movie Hotel Transylvania 2 had about $170M domestic run, Smurfs finished at $45M, Emoji is looking at $70M-$80M, and if we assume The Star does $50M. Their combined total might be under HT2.

And with a higher combined budget too! 

[That One Girl]

Just now, WrathOfHan said:

The gif and Cogman together are mesmerizing  

 

[picores]

200m for Dunkirk anyone?? The best comparision i've found is M:I-Rogue Nation. Let's say 29.5m weekend for Dunkirk

 

After second weekend

 

M:I-RN  107m after a 28.5m weekend (-48%)   Final gross: 195m

Dunkirk    104m after a 29.5 weekend (-42%)   Final gross: ????

 

This is gonna be a fun run to follow