Jonwo Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 I doubt BR underperforming will hurt Villeneuve as he delievered with fantastic reviews hence why Sony want him for Cleopatra. This will be one of the few times where I think the creatives will go unscathed, it’ll be Alcon and Sony that be hurt the most, Alcon more than Sony 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Shawn said: Pretty surprising results on 2049. I get the arguments about the film being too insular for casual moviegoers (I've made those same arguments), but there's got to be something bigger at play here. Pre-sales and other signs were way too strong, and the BR die-hard fan base isn't so huge as to inflate sales by that large a margin. I just hope this doesn't hurt Villeneuve's shot at getting more big-budget ambitious projects. Wait a minute, since when are you back on BOT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted October 7, 2017 Founder / Operator Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, Fullbuster said: Wait a minute, since when are you back on BOT? I peek in every now and then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakiyyah6 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Jonwo said: I doubt BR underperforming will hurt Villeneuve as he delievered with fantastic reviews hence why Sony want him for Cleopatra. This will be one of the few times where I think the creatives will go unscathed, it’ll be Alcon and Sony that be hurt the most, Alcon more than Sony My thoughts exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Dunno know if its been posted yet but I just read that Villeneuve is in talks to do Bond 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Just now, Ozymandias said: Dunno know if its been posted yet but I just read that Villeneuve is in talks to do Bond 25 He's in talks to do that and Cleo so that tells me that something hasn't come together with Dune before BR2049 floppage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 sadly, I don't think Dune will get greenlit. I mean the original movie flopped when the novels were more well known so the studio will probably be too scared to go forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 #Villeneuve_4_Pacific_Rim_3_Québec_Libre_Fights_Back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakiyyah6 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 People do not like heady sci fi movies even if they are good so do not spend more than 60mil on a heady sci fi film. That is the lesson to take from 2049 flopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Yikes that is under even my modest expectations (36m) and I thought I was potentially lowballing. Also thanks for getting the thread locked it gave me time to catch up lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 Sony will be glad they only have international. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDERDOG Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) Edited October 7, 2017 by UNDERDOG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, Shawn said: Pretty surprising results on 2049. I get the arguments about the film being too insular for casual moviegoers (I've made those same arguments), but there's got to be something bigger at play here. Pre-sales and other signs were way too strong, and the BR die-hard fan base isn't so huge as to inflate sales by that large a margin. I just hope this doesn't hurt Villeneuve's shot at getting more big-budget ambitious projects. guessing the presales were primarily for previews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted October 7, 2017 Founder / Operator Share Posted October 7, 2017 The postmortems on this are going to be fascinating, and depressing, to read. Hopefully the bloggers of the world don't marginalize it down to just being a matter of a movie bombing. My own personal take is that -- on top of being inflated by fans to some degree, which remains a valid point -- this was not the kind of movie casual moviegoers were feeling at this particular point in time in America. I know I personally didn't take that into account this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 18 minutes ago, Shawn said: Pretty surprising results on 2049. I get the arguments about the film being too insular for casual moviegoers (I've made those same arguments), but there's got to be something bigger at play here. Pre-sales and other signs were way too strong, and the BR die-hard fan base isn't so huge as to inflate sales by that large a margin. I just hope this doesn't hurt Villeneuve's shot at getting more big-budget ambitious projects. This is the biggest WTF-factor of the weekend. Sales at a specific US chain were ahead of Apes and on par with Dunkirk. Maybe we all underestimated how presale heavy it would be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 mother! (Remember that?) is down 75%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 should have put a cape on Ryan Gosling on the poster. Since funny book movies have the advantage over everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XO21 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Krissykins said: mother! (Remember that?) is down 75%. well it lost 74% of its screens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted October 7, 2017 Founder / Operator Share Posted October 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said: This is the biggest WTF-factor of the weekend. Sales at a specific US chain were ahead of Apes and on par with Dunkirk. Maybe we all underestimated how presale heavy it would be? I think we did as well. Without naming anyone, there were definitely projections of $55-60m floating around from some reliable sources. Even WB expected $45-50m, and they're usually careful to be at least a little conservative. 5 minutes ago, John Marston said: guessing the presales were primarily for previews Definitely seems that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 minute ago, John Marston said: should have put a cape on Ryan Gosling on the poster. Since funny book movies have the advantage over everything else Well the top 3 films of the year worldwide aren’t superhero films but yeh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
