Monday Numbers: Justice League 7.5M | Wonder 4M | Thor 2.5M

[Mojoguy]

JL 6-7M

[WrathOfHan]

If JL follows FB with that 6M number:

 

8.3M (+37.6%)

9.8M (+17.5%)

8.5M (-12.8%) (126.4M Total)

 

16.3M (+92.1%)

15.3M (-5.9%)

8.5M (-44.5%)

40.1M Weekend, 57% drop, 166.5M Total

 

With 7M:

 

9.6M 

11.3M 

9.9M (131.6M Total)

 

19M

17.9M

9.9M

46.8M Weekend, 50% drop, 178.4M Total

 

If it follows Catching Fire at 6M:

 

7.8M (+29.5%)

10.2M (+30.4%)

7.3M (-28.1%) (125.1M Total)

 

15.4M (+111.2%)

13.9M (-10%)

7M (-50%)

36.3M Weekend, 61% drop, 161.4M Total

[dashrendar44]

Just now, YourMother said:

This guy is funny in a sad way.

Ha, I was wondering about Sean Spicer's whereabouts lately.

[MrPink]

3 minutes ago, YourMother said:

This guy is funny in a sad way.

 

This explains everything about the CGI! 

[YM!]

I think JL can rise to $8M tonight.

[SoSaysI]

5 minutes ago, YourMother said:

This guy is funny in a sad way.

Wow that is delusional.

[WrathOfHan]

Where I can see Wonder landing:

 

5.6M (+40%)

6.4M (+15%)

5.6M (-12%)

 

11.8M (+110%)

11.2M (-5%)

6M (-46%)

29M Weekend, 5% increase, 78.1M Total

[DAJK]

That Monday for Wonder reminds me a bit of Get Out's first Monday. Thinking we get 5x multiplier with this one give it take. 130-160M domestic incoming

[Barnack]

7 minutes ago, YourMother said:

This guy is funny in a sad way.

 

Justice league just 19 million more than Deepwater Horizon 156m production then and 60m less than Dawn of the planet of the Apes....

 

So those CGI were not because of fast turn around and rushed to release troubled post-production, but because they spent on one of the biggest above the line movie of the year

 

Snyder

Terrio

Whedon

Affleck

Cavill

Adams

Gadot

Miller

Momoa

Irons

Lane

Simmons

Heard

Berg

Roven

Deborah Snyder

Elfman + the original  high cost composers

 

With long reshoot.

 

That would mean like Logan below the line cost for the first principal photography.

 

Saying that it cost 450m to cost and release after tax rebate (that what Amazing Spider Man 2 did cost to produce and release after tax rebate), is from from saying that BvS (smaller cast, smaller and more intimate story),  costed $500m to just produce (and I remember $400m, not an impossible rounded gross cost to be honest not $500m).

 

 

[Barnack]

17 minutes ago, YourMother said:

This guy is funny in a sad way.

 

 

 

That one is also quite strange, a 175M movie that sell merchandise needing 590M to break even ! That is more than 3.3 time it's budget, that is really a lot.

 

Reshoot that cost only 25M ? Whedon writing/directing contract alone, buying big name composer out (or you could see has hiring Elfman) would have taken a lot of that amount.

 

Marketing of 70m for a giant superheroes world release, the Brad Pitt movie Moneyball had a 73 million marketing budget, Tom Hanks Captain Philips spent 92.5m on marketing.....

Edited November 21, 2017 by Barnack

[Plain Old Tele]

2 minutes ago, Barnack said:

 

 

 

That one is also quite strange, a 175M movie that sell merchandise needing 590M to break even ! That is more than 3.3 time it's budget, that is really a lot.

 

Reshoot that cost only 25M ? Whedon writing/directing contract alone, buying big name composer out (or you could see has hiring Elfman) would have taken a lot of that amount.

 

Marketing of 70m for a giant superheroes world release, the Brad Pitt movie Moneyball had a 73 million marketing budget, Tom Hanks Captain Philips spent 92.5m on marketing.....

 

Whedon didn't get a writing/directing contract. You're over-estimating how much it would cost to have him in charge, especially if he was already consulting.

[Sam]

I still think holiday season can help the legs. But the thing is, for a direct sequel to BvS that has to combat the toxic WOM of that movie and get to a good multiplier of 2.7-2.8x, you need reactions that say “this movie is absolutely amazing, you need to go see it asap!”, and not “It’s pretty good, better than BvS” (which is what I see is the more popular consensus from our members here)

 

2.4-2.5x is my guess.

[Heat Vision]

21 minutes ago, YourMother said:

This guy is funny in a sad way.

BvS cost 250 million. Justice League probably cost 300 million before reshoots.

[DeeCee]

22 minutes ago, dashrendar44 said:

Ha, I was wondering about Sean Spicer's whereabouts lately.

"Reports of the opening weekend were intentionally framed in a way, in one particular Tweet, to minimize the enormous support that had gathered in the theaters," Spicer said on Nov. 21. "That was the largest audience to witness an opening weekend, period. Both in the Domestic Market and around the globe."

[Barnack]

19 minutes ago, Squadron Leader Tele said:

 

Whedon didn't get a writing/directing contract. You're over-estimating how much it would cost to have him in charge, especially if he was already consulting.

Not sure what it mean, he didn't sign a contract and got paid for is directing and writing job he did on that movie ? With the studio in a weak position for negotiating ?

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rogue-one-writer-tony-gilroy-make-millions-reshoots-951119

 

Gilroy work on Rogue One was rumored to be around 200k a week and expended has responsibility grew for a total of about 5 million, imagine someone that made the 2 highest grossing superheroes team up movies of all time, with an over 3b at the box office would get to "save" something has important than Justice League for the studio ?

 

Has an exec and having to face the board responding about that movie performance, you would love to take credit and/or protect yourself saying you hired the guy with the best track record possible to help the movie and you are probably ready to pay an healthy amount to be able to say that.

 

If you mean by not being credited and not having to give him residuals and other benefit that come with those, that may be true but that would probably also mean that you need to up is salary to compensate.

Edited November 21, 2017 by Barnack

[DAR]

On the bright side it's going to be highest grossing Justice League movie for quite sometime 

[RichWS]

This is the percentage of the total gross the last seven big pre-Thanksgiving openers brought in during the first 10 days.

 

Deathly Hallows 1 - 74%

Breaking Dawn 1 - 78.5%

Breaking Dawn 2 - 77.8%

Catching Fire - 69.8%

Mockingjay 1 - 66.95%

Mockingjay 2 - 70.5%

Fantastic Beasts - 66.666% (really)

 

Let's give Justice League $170m after 10 days. If that's 75% of the total gross, it's making $226.6m....

 

The Fate of the Furious $225,764,765

 

Edited November 21, 2017 by RichWS

[Heat Vision]

Just now, DAR said:

On the bright side it's going to be highest grossing Justice League movie for quite sometime 

Or they'll just do JL2 and move forward. They can only improve from here. Then again they didn't learn after BvS and Suicide Squad. Hopefully third time is the charm.

[Plain Old Tele]

2 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Not sure what it mean, he didn't sign a contract and got paid for is directing and writing job he did on that movie ? With the studio in a weak position for negotiating ?

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rogue-one-writer-tony-gilroy-make-millions-reshoots-951119

 

Gilroy work on Rogue One was rumored to be around 200k a weak and expended has responsibility grew for a total of about 5 million, imagine someone that made the 2 highest grossing superheroes team up movies of all time, with an over 3b at the box office would get to "save" something has important than Justice League for the studio ?

 

Has an exec and having to face the board responding about that movie performance, you would love to take credit and/or protect yourself saying you hired the guy with the best track record possible to help the movie and you are probably ready to pay an healthy amount to be able to say that.

 

200k a week or so is probably what Whedon got. It's not a directing deal because he didn't get a directing credit.

[Premium George]

3 minutes ago, DAR said:

On the bright side it's going to be highest grossing Justice League movie for quite sometime