XO21 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Is Wonder gonna pull a Blind Side...$200m??? Lionsgate must be over the moon. Great increase for JL, but will Wednesday increase be lower? MJ2 went up 33% on Tuesday and then 20.3% on Wednesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Hard to compare too far back when Tuesdays just keep on increasing. Pretty good numbers regardless. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, XO21 said: Is Wonder gonna pull a Blind Side...$200m??? Lionsgate must be over the moon. Great increase for JL, but will Wednesday increase be lower? MJ2 went up 33% on Tuesday and then 20.3% on Wednesday Lionsgate have better financial prospect with their mid-low budget movie, like la la land and now wonder, any attempt of making blockbuster like power rangers, isn't work well for them, HG and TW are just a lucky exception..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 It is not unprecedented for smaller films to have light drops or even small increases over the thanksgiving frame. Bolt and Blind side both did that in back to back years. The issue tends more to be that very few films have opened against the big film the weekend before. Since they normally wait till Wednesday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 46 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: It is to asses how the greater tuesday's increase meant for, 43% tuesday jump for JL is bigger than FB, MJ1 and MJ2, it will be misunderstood that JL has better legs compared to those, by using this, the monday's drop will be taken into consideration. You’re trying to find away to undermine the Tuesday increase. No one is trying to calculate legs when it’s only been out for 5 days. Justice League had a better Sunday hold than MJ1 & MJ2... are you taking that into account and going back to Saturday as well? Justice League also held much better on Saturday than MJ1 and MJ2 so will you go back to Friday as well? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Both JL and Wonder with great holds:)...hopefully, it's 3 for 3 with The Star - yep, still gonna support that little engine, too:)... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) Also the thing about Puss in Boots that skews it's historical record is context. Paramount at the last minute moved it back a week into the Halloween frame which created a 1-2 punch of underwhelming numbers on opening weekend. Hence the great hold in week 2 and a shitty final total (in context). Edit to add.... It should also be reminded that 2011 was a weak year overall for animation and last minute or not the move by paramount probably added to the gross by putting an extra week between Puss and the rest of the overcrowded kiddie market that holiday season. Edited November 22, 2017 by narniadis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 55 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: It is to asses how the greater tuesday's increase meant for, 43% tuesday jump for JL is bigger than FB, MJ1 and MJ2, it will be misunderstood that JL has better legs compared to those, by using this, the monday's drop will be taken into consideration. I think you’re misunderstanding because: multipliers from friday to end of day Tuesday: Mockingjay 1 2.6x Mockingjay 2 2.68x Justice League 2.92x Fantastic Beasts 3.02x So Justice League is holding on better than both Mockingjay films, despite the bigger Monday drop. I know it opened less, but you’re comparing legs. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Binoche Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 The Blind Side did $4.9M on Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Krissykins said: You’re trying to find away to undermine the Tuesday increase. No one is trying to calculate legs when it’s only been out for 5 days. Justice League had a better Sunday hold than MJ1 & MJ2... are you taking that into account and going back to Saturday as well? Justice League also held much better on Saturday than MJ1 and MJ2 so will you go back to Friday as well? Tuesday's increase could even more remarkable if it wasn't for that 66.9% monday drop, if no one try to calculate legs for a 5days old movie, then why are we bother to be here, just wait til the movie to end its run... and using my illustration, FB really did have a best hold over thanksgiving among three(highest tuesday to sunday ratio) while MJ1 has the worst(lowest tues to sunday ratio) and I have no way and no needs to undermine its tuesday increase since its opening weekend wasn't even good in the 1st place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, La Binoche said: The Blind Side did $4.9M on Tuesday Different era. Discount Tuesday's while large weren't as big. Not surprising that Wonder is higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Binoche Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, narniadis said: Different era. Discount Tuesday's while large weren't as big. Not surprising that Wonder is higher. But Wonder also did more on Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, La Binoche said: But Wonder also did more on Monday. I know. But the Tuesday comment is still correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 30 minutes ago, Arlborn said: Hard to compare too far back when Tuesdays just keep on increasing. Pretty good numbers regardless. JL could even drop less than 50% over 3 days thanksgiving if audience really come to disagree with critics 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, La Binoche said: But Wonder also did more on Monday. I'm guessing school groups were still showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, titanic2187 said: JL could even drop less than 50% over 3 days thanksgiving if audience really come to disagree with critics It will have the advantage that many folks will let families know there's nothing objectionable for kids...there's no Spidey "murder...rape..." or "fuuuu" language moments, and for some reason, language is the biggest hang up for so many parents I know... It will also have the advantage that folks can say it's better than critics say (b/c it is...even if it's not great)...and beating expectations is normally more positive to folks than not living up to sky high ones... The Disney news will also unfortunately help...hate to say it, but I know some folks who are now gonna take a pass on what they likely would have watched this weekend to try one of last weekend's movies instead (although I think Wonder will be the biggest gainer on this one)...Moms make decisions on family movies, and that matters... I still wouldn't get my hopes up for anything more than a FB run, and I'm thinking less...but families do watch movies this weekend...a lot...and Coco didn't grab as many screens and showings from JL's under-performance as one might have expected, at least in my area... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, TwoMisfits said: It will have the advantage that many folks will let families know there's nothing objectionable for kids...there's no Spidey "murder...rape..." or "fuuuu" language moments, and for some reason, language is the biggest hang up for so many parents I know... It will also have the advantage that folks can say it's better than critics say (b/c it is...even if it's not great)...and beating expectations is normally more positive to folks than not living up to sky high ones... The Disney news will also unfortunately help...hate to say it, but I know some folks who are now gonna take a pass on what they likely would have watched this weekend to try one of last weekend's movies instead (although I think Wonder will be the biggest gainer on this one)...Moms make decisions on family movies, and that matters... I still wouldn't get my hopes up for anything more than a FB run, and I'm thinking less...but families do watch movies this weekend...a lot...and Coco didn't grab as many screens and showings from JL's under-performance as one might have expected, at least in my area... if a darker tone MJ2 can drop 49% across holiday, I don't see why a more holiday-friendly, shorter run time movie will have no chance to repeat that feat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 JL performance is not really being impressive. It is doing what has happened many times before, that it had a lower opening weekend than expected and half decent legs which will still end to a rather substandard total domestically. If it legs it up to 280-300 million, then yeah it is a different story. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainiac5 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said: JL performance is not really being impressive. It is doing what has happened many times before, that it had a lower opening weekend than expected and half decent legs which will still end to a rather substandard total domestically. If it legs it up to 280-300 million, then yeah it is a different story. The verdict is still out for JL . This film certainly can earn a CBM 3x(281)Multiplier. Now if the film can hold better than Let’s Say FB I’m the coming weeks then it’s Multipier can go as far as 3.2x(300) .If it holds the same Domestic to Foreign ratio Then the headlines jumped the gun. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raegr Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 300M is embarrassing for a movie this caliber. 350M the we're talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
