5-Day Weekend Thread | Saturday #s (Asgard p.109) - Coco 17.7, Justice League 15.7, Wonder 8.3, Thor: Ragnarok 6.4, Daddy's Home 2 5.3

[BadAtGender]

Coco's going to have a smaller 3-day than Tangled. Bigger 5-day, though, due to the Tuesday Previews and a bigger Thursday.

[dxmatrixdt]

16 minutes ago, Rth Ragnarok said:

Sat  C 17.7,JL 15.7,W 8.3, T:R 6.4,DH2 5.3

anything for anything else?  thanks!!

[BadAtGender]

12 minutes ago, FlashMaster659 said:

This page

Astoundingly helpful. Thanks.

[dxmatrixdt]

26 minutes ago, Matrix4You said:

On 11/24/2017 at 3:57 AM, Matrix4You said:

AVG TICKETS PURCHASED PER VENUE

ASGARD IS RED

blue numbers are my predictions

green is something I guessed correctly

 

                                        MON      TUES    WED   TH      -    FRI    SAT    SUN                     

($9.00 avg) - Justice -      206        326   --   287     232    -    453    431     231   - 1,115 = 40.65

($8.93 avg) - Coco-                  -    307                   250    -     522    497     333   - 1352 = 48.14

($8.93 avg) - Wonder   -  143        245   --  214      141   -     308    293     176   - 777 = 22.01

($8.93 avg) - THOR       -    67       114   --   136     119          227    218     119    - 564 = 16.52

($8.50 avg) - DH2           -  51         85   --    91       89     -    159     169       90    -  418  = 12.50

($8.93 avg) - Murder     -   53          77   --    89     106    -     186     186        93    -  465  = 13.09

($8.00 avg) - The Star    -   49         71   --   72        44     -     122    122        72   -    316 = 7.17

($8.93 avg) - BM2          -    31        51   --    46       39      -     88       88         44   -    220  = 4.53

($8.93 avg) - 3BB           - 250       250   --   150    126   -      295     295       150   -   740  = 4.06

($8.93 avg) - Lady          - 146      166   --   114      87   -       214     214        114  -   542   =  3.83

($8.93avg)*-Roman J    - 158       149   --    51       63   -      121      126        63    -   310   = 4.62

($8.93avg) - Invented XMAS                  --     42       54   -       90       90         45    - 225     =1 .26

($8.93 avg) - Jigsaw        -  15        14   --     23       19    -      42       42         21    -  105   =  0.359

($8.93 avg) - Boo 2!        -  10         11   --    15         ?    -      33

($7.50 avg) - Kingsman    -  12        14   --     17       16   -       31

($7.50 avg) - American M -   12       11   --      11       12   -      33

($7.50 avg) - Mountain B -    7         9     --      11      11    -      28

($5.00 avg) - Despicable 3 -  19       27   --       33     15   -       51

($8.00 avg) - Happy Death -  11     10   --        9       6     -      23

($7.50 avg) - My Little Pony -  8        8   --        11      4    -       14

($8.93 avg) - Marshall          -   9       10   --       9      8      -      23

 

 

Edited November 26, 2017 by Matrix4You

[dxmatrixdt]

just awful for Justice League.  I wonder where they are going to go with this.

[mredman]

4 minutes ago, Matrix4You said:

just awful for Justice League.  I wonder where they are going to go with this.

what in the hell are you babbling about. it dropped 5% like Coco. Bettter drops than FB last year, MJ1 ect..

Edited November 26, 2017 by mredman

[Plain Old Tele]

2 minutes ago, mredman said:

what in the hell are you babbling about. it dropped 5% like Coco. Bettter drops than FB last year, MJ1 ect..

 

It's having holds that would've been fine had it opened to 135m. But as is, they're not strong enough to right the ship. 

[Hades]

40 minutes ago, a2knet said:

-5% for COCO (MOANA was -2%)

-5% for JL (MJ1 was -9%, FB was -6% and MJ2 was -5%) 

I blame the Frozen short. Why would Disney torture the Coco audience with that abomination.  

[Johnny Tran]

9 minutes ago, Squadron Leader Tele said:

 

It's having holds that would've been fine had it opened to 135m. But as is, they're not strong enough to right the ship. 

So if this continues to hold okay we are just going to keep saying "terrible number"  dating back to the OW?  At that point we might as well not look at the number because no matter what the hold,  it's over and done with..    which I agree with.  The OW made this D.O.A.   No need to repeat it for the next 8 weeks.  What are people expecting?  It can't actually get "good" from here.  It's either bad or worse.. 

Edited November 26, 2017 by Johnny Tran

[XO21]

11 minutes ago, mredman said:

what in the hell are you babbling about. it dropped 5% like Coco. Bettter drops than FB last year, MJ1 ect..

Fantastic Beasts opened $20m below and JL is already behind....

 

FB did $17.2m last year. JL $15.7m

 

[Plain Old Tele]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:

So if this continues to hold okay we are just going to keep saying "terrible number"  dating back to the OW?  At that point we might as well not look at the number because no matter what the hold,  it's over and done with..    which I agree with.  The OW made this D.O.A.   No need to repeat it for the next 8 weeks.  What are people expecting?  It can't actually get "good" from here.  It's either bad or worse.. 

 

Sure, it could start having great holds. I think what it's done so far is okay holds at best -- not great, not awful. If it drops less than 55% next weekend we can start to talk about good legs (for a CBM). 

[Krissykins]

That’s a good drop for Justice League compared to Fantastic Beasts, bigger Friday increase and smaller Saturday decrease. 

 

A higher 49% Sunday drop gives it $40.2m, same Sunday drop as FB gives it ~$41m.

[Krissykins]

Although, in their 3rd weekends, Fantastic Beasts and both Mockingjay films all fell 60% so I don’t know why we should expect anything less from Justice League. 

 

Mockingjay 2 actually fell 64%. 

[titanic2187]

1 hour ago, Rth Ragnarok said:

Sat  C 17.7,JL 15.7,W 8.3, T:R 6.4,DH2 5.3

“It’s not just about the opening weekend, but it’s about the length of the run, especially given the extremely lucrative Thanksgiving holiday. We have lots of room to run,” said Warner Bros. domestic distribution boss Jeff Goldstein yesterday. 

 

So much for lucrative thanksgiving...57% drop on thanksgiving weekend.....

[BK007]

So how have Coco's numbers been?

 

The CinemaScore bodes well but it's opening weekend daily drops/increases haven't been as good as Moana?

 

Did Moana get an A or A+?

[Krissykins]

14 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

“It’s not just about the opening weekend, but it’s about the length of the run, especially given the extremely lucrative Thanksgiving holiday. We have lots of room to run,” said Warner Bros. domestic distribution boss Jeff Goldstein yesterday. 

 

So much for lucrative thanksgiving...57% drop on thanksgiving weekend.....

Mockingjay fell 53% on thanksgiving without a big opener so it’s not a complete disaster of a second weekend.

 

Still not enough though. 

 

If it plays like both Mockingjay films and FB, a 60% 3rd weekend drop is guaranteed. They all fell 60. 

[cookie]

Predictions for next week:

 

Coco: -53%

JL: -60%

Wonder: -40%

Thor: -52%

New (wide) releases: 

[a2k]

One good hold can supersede the subsequent days.

 

          A                   B

Tue    10                  10

Wed    5 (-50%)       10 (0%)

Thu     6 (+20%)    10 (0%) 

Fri       7 (+17%)    10 (0%)

Sat      8  (+14%)   9 (-10%)

Sun     8  (0%)        8  (-11%)

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           44               57

Edited November 26, 2017 by a2knet

[Krissykins]

1 minute ago, BK007 said:

So how have Coco's numbers been?

 

The CinemaScore bodes well but it's opening weekend daily drops/increases haven't been as good as Moana?

 

Did Moana get an A or A+?

Moana fell 2.1% on Saturday. Coco has fallen 4.8%. 

 

Moana got an A. 

[Krissykins]

1 minute ago, a2knet said:

That's a narrow way to look at it. Even if JL has better holds than FB all 3 days, FB's weekend drop is 39% vs JL's 56%+...why?Cause damage was done on Wednesday. So "better" FSS holds is an illusion.

 

As an example take 2 movies with same Tuesday. Movie B has only one day better (Wed) than Movie A (I have exaggerated the holds to make a point), but is still overall ahead.

 

          A                   B

Tue    10                  10

Wed    5 (-50%)       10 (0%)

Thu     6 (+20%)    10 (0%)

Fri       7 (+17%)    10 (0%)

Sat      7  (0%)        9 (-10%)

Sun     7  (0%)        8  (-11%)

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           42               57

I am aware how the box office works, I’ve been following it since 2002, but thanks.

 

I was literally only saying the Friday increase was bigger and the Saturday hold was better. 

 

I didnt mention numbers at all and wasn’t trying to imply than JL would have a better weekend hold or overtake FB, sorry if you misunderstood or misread.