2017 Critics/Alternate Awards Discussion

[filmlover]

9 hours ago, RichWS said:

NBR:

 

BEST FILM
The Post

 

BEST DIRECTOR
Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird

 

BEST DIRECTORIAL DEBUT
Jordan Peele, Get Out

 

BEST CAST ENSEMBLE
Get Out

 

BEST ACTOR
Tom Hanks, The Post

 

BEST ACTRESS
Meryl Streep, The Post

 

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project

 

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird

 

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
Coco (Disney/Pixar)

 

BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE MALE
Timothée Chalamet,  Call Me By Your Name

 

BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE FEMALE

 

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Phantom Thread, Paul Thomas Anderson

 

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
The Disaster Artist (Scott Neustadter & Michael H. Weber)

Also, the Top 10 Movies:

 

Baby Driver
Call Me By Your Name
The Disaster Artist
Downsizing
Dunkirk
The Florida Project
Get Out
Lady Bird
Logan
Phantom Thread

 

And Top 10 Independent Movies:

 

Beatriz at Dinner
Brigsby Bear
A Ghost Story
Lady Macbeth
Logan Lucky 
Loving Vincent 
Menashe
Norman: The Moderate Rise and Tragic Fall of a New York Fixer
Patti Cake$
Wind River

[WrathOfHan]

NBR's Top 10 has only missed six BP winners since the 70s: The Deer Hunter, Amadeus, Platoon, Rain Man, A Beautiful Mind, and Return of the King. This doesn't bode well for Three Billboards at all, especially when it wasn't nominated for Film at the Spirits and Gothams.

[stripe]

The most surprising NBR snub: Three billboards

The most surprising top10: Logan, over Wonder Woman

The most benefited from this awards: The Post

The most damaged: Shape of Water

The NBR's weird late December nominee: Phantom Thread

 

A disturbing question: why there's no breakthrough performance female?

[Jake Gittes]

9 minutes ago, stripe said:

The most surprising top10: Logan, over Wonder Woman

Why?

 

10 minutes ago, stripe said:

A disturbing question: why there's no breakthrough performance female?

Yeah it's strange. There were Vicky Krieps, Brooklynn Prince, Dafne Keen, Florence Pugh all in the movies they loved.

[stripe]

10 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

Why?

 

 

Because Logan was released at the beginning of the year, Wonder Woman had the crown for most loved SH movie of the year... And because they even gave Pat Jenkins and Gal Gadot a special award for WW. WB is seriously campaigning for WW

[Jake Gittes]

Well clearly the earlier release date doesn't really matter as much as everyone thinks and Logan was always more acclaimed and more appealing to critics than WW.

[filmlover]

2 hours ago, stripe said:

The most damaged: Shape of Water

Yeah, it's really not looking good for this right now. If it misses at both the Globes and SAG I think that will be the nail in its coffin as a potential Best Picture nominee.

[The Panda]

I'll wait until SAGs and Globes but Shape of Water has dropped to my tenth slot for now.  It hasn't gotten any recognition despite glowing reviews

[filmlover]

Satellite noms (everybody's a nominee!):

 

Motion Picture
“Dunkirk”
“The Shape of Water
“Get Out”
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
“Lady Bird”
“The Big Sick”
“I, Tonya”
“God’s Own Country”
“Call Me by Your Name”
“Mudbound”

 

Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture
Emma Stone, “Battle of the Sexes”
Judi Dench, “Victoria & Abdul”
Frances McDormand, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Sally Hawkins, “The Shape of Water”
Diane Kruger, “In the Fade”
Margot Robbie, “I, Tonya”
Saoirse Ronan, “Lady Bird”
Jessica Chastain, “Molly’s Game”

 

Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture
Gary Oldman, “Darkest Hour”
Daniel Day-Lewis, “Phantom Thread”
Jake Gyllenhaal, “Stronger”
Robert Pattinson, “Good Time”
Jeremy Renner, “Wind River”
Harry Dean Stanton, “Lucky”
James Franco, “The Disaster Artist”

 

Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
Holly Hunter, “The Big Sick”
Allison Janney, “I, Tonya”
Melissa Leo, “Novitiate”
Laurie Metcalf, “Lady Bird”
Lois Smith, “Marjorie Prime”
Mary J. Blige, “Mudbound”

 

Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role
Armie Hammer, “Call Me by Your Name”
Dustin Hoffman, “The Meyerowitz Stories”
Mark Rylance, “Dunkirk”
Michael Shannon, “The Shape of Water”
Sam Rockwell, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Willem Dafoe, “The Florida Project”

 

Motion Picture, International
“The Divine Order”
“The Square”
“First They Killed My Father”
“Loveless”
“In the Fade”
“Foxtrot”
“White Sun”
“BPM (Beats Per Minute)”

 

Motion Picture, Animated or Mixed Media
“Coco”
“Birdboy: The Forgotten Children”
“Cars 3”
“Loving Vincent”
“The Breadwinner”
“The Boss Baby”
“The Lego Batman Movie”

 

Motion Picture, Documentary
“Human Flow”
“Ex Libris: The New York Public Library”
“Chasing Coral”
“Kedi”
“Cries From Syria”
“Icarus”
“City of Ghosts”
“Hell on Earth: The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS”
“Legion of Brothers”

 

Director
Christopher Nolan, “Dunkirk”
Greta Gerwig, “Lady Bird”
Guillermo del Toro, “The Shape of Water
Jordan Peele, “Get Out”
Dee Rees, “Mudbound”
Sean Baker, “The Florida Project”

 

Screenplay, Original
Christopher Nolan, “Dunkirk”
Jordan Peele,”Get Out”
Guillermo del Toro & Vanessa Taylor, “The Shape of Water
Greta Gerwig, “Lady Bird”
Martin McDonagh, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Sean Baker & Chris Bergoch, “The Florida Project”

 

Screenplay, Adapted
Aaron Sorkin, “Molly’s Game”
Scott Neustadter & Michael H. Weber, “The Disaster Artist”
James Ivory, “Call Me by Your Name”
Lee Hall, “Victoria & Abdul”
Brian Selznick, “Wonderstruck”
Jason Fuchs and Allan Heinberg, “Wonder Woman”

 

Original Score
Hans Zimmer, “Dunkirk”
Carter Burwell, “Wonderstruck”
Rupert Gregson-Williams, “Wonder Woman”
Alexandre Desplat, “The Shape of Water”
Rupert Gregson-Williams, “Wonder Woman”
Michael Giacchino, “War of the Planet of the Apes”

 

Original Song
“It Ain’t Fair” from “Detroit”
“I Don’t Wanna Live Forever” from “Fifty Shades Darker”
“Stand Up for Something” from “Marshall”
“Prayers for This World” from “Cries From Syria”
“The Promise” from “The Promise”
“Truth to Power” from “An Inconvenient Sequel”

 

Cinematography
Ben Davis, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Hoyte van Hoytema, “Dunkirk”
Dan Laustsen, “The Shape of Water”
Roger Deakins, “Blade Runner 2049”
Bruno Delbonnel, “Darkest Hour”
Sam Levy, “Lady Bird”

 

Visual Effects
“Dunkirk”
“Blade Runner 2049”
“The Shape of Water
“Wonder Woman”
“Alien: Covenant”
“War for the Planet of the Apes”

 

Film Editing
Jon Gregory, “Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri”
Lee Smith, “Dunkirk”
Sidney Wolinsky, “The Shape of Water”
Valerio Bonelli,, “Darkest Hour”
William Hoy, “War for the Planet of the Apes”
Jonathan Amos, “Baby Driver”

 

Sound (Editing and Mixing)
“Darkest Hour”
“Coco”
“War for the Planet of the Apes”
“Dunkirk”
“Blade Runner 2049”
“Logan”

 

Art Direction and Production Design
“Blade Runner 2049”
“Dunkirk”
“The Shape of Water
“Get Out”
“Downsizing”
“Phantom Thread”

 

Costume Design
Consolata Boyle, “Victoria and Abdul”
Alexandra Byrne, “Murder on the Orient Express”
Jacqueline Durran, “Beauty and the Beast”
Jeffrey Kurland, “Dunkirk”
Stacey Battat, “The Beguiled”
Mark Bridges, “Phantom Thread”

 

https://www.thewrap.com/dunkirk-the-shape-of-water-lead-satellite-award-nominations/

Edited November 29, 2017 by filmlover

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2 hours ago, filmlover said:

Satellite noms (everybody's a nominee!):

 

Motion Picture
“Dunkirk”
“The Shape of Water
“Get Out”
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
“Lady Bird”
“The Big Sick”
“I, Tonya”
“God’s Own Country”
“Call Me by Your Name”
“Mudbound”

 

Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture
Emma Stone, “Battle of the Sexes”
Judi Dench, “Victoria & Abdul”
Frances McDormand, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Sally Hawkins, “The Shape of Water”
Diane Kruger, “In the Fade”
Margot Robbie, “I, Tonya”
Saoirse Ronan, “Lady Bird”
Jessica Chastain, “Molly’s Game”

 

Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture
Gary Oldman, “Darkest Hour”
Daniel Day-Lewis, “Phantom Thread”
Jake Gyllenhaal, “Stronger”
Robert Pattinson, “Good Time”
Jeremy Renner, “Wind River”
Harry Dean Stanton, “Lucky”
James Franco, “The Disaster Artist”

 

Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
Holly Hunter, “The Big Sick”
Allison Janney, “I, Tonya”
Melissa Leo, “Novitiate”
Laurie Metcalf, “Lady Bird”
Lois Smith, “Marjorie Prime”
Mary J. Blige, “Mudbound”

 

Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role
Armie Hammer, “Call Me by Your Name”
Dustin Hoffman, “The Meyerowitz Stories”
Mark Rylance, “Dunkirk”
Michael Shannon, “The Shape of Water”
Sam Rockwell, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Willem Dafoe, “The Florida Project”

 

Motion Picture, International
“The Divine Order”
“The Square”
“First They Killed My Father”
“Loveless”
“In the Fade”
“Foxtrot”
“White Sun”
“BPM (Beats Per Minute)”

 

Motion Picture, Animated or Mixed Media
“Coco”
“Birdboy: The Forgotten Children”
“Cars 3”
“Loving Vincent”
“The Breadwinner”
“The Boss Baby”
“The Lego Batman Movie”

 

Motion Picture, Documentary
“Human Flow”
“Ex Libris: The New York Public Library”
“Chasing Coral”
“Kedi”
“Cries From Syria”
“Icarus”
“City of Ghosts”
“Hell on Earth: The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS”
“Legion of Brothers”

 

Director
Christopher Nolan, “Dunkirk”
Greta Gerwig, “Lady Bird”
Guillermo del Toro, “The Shape of Water
Jordan Peele, “Get Out”
Dee Rees, “Mudbound”
Sean Baker, “The Florida Project”

 

Screenplay, Original
Christopher Nolan, “Dunkirk”
Jordan Peele,”Get Out”
Guillermo del Toro & Vanessa Taylor, “The Shape of Water
Greta Gerwig, “Lady Bird”
Martin McDonagh, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Sean Baker & Chris Bergoch, “The Florida Project”

 

Screenplay, Adapted
Aaron Sorkin, “Molly’s Game”
Scott Neustadter & Michael H. Weber, “The Disaster Artist”
James Ivory, “Call Me by Your Name”
Lee Hall, “Victoria & Abdul”
Brian Selznick, “Wonderstruck”
Jason Fuchs and Allan Heinberg, “Wonder Woman”

 

Original Score
Hans Zimmer, “Dunkirk”
Carter Burwell, “Wonderstruck”
Rupert Gregson-Williams, “Wonder Woman”
Alexandre Desplat, “The Shape of Water”
Rupert Gregson-Williams, “Wonder Woman”
Michael Giacchino, “War of the Planet of the Apes”

 

Original Song
“It Ain’t Fair” from “Detroit”
“I Don’t Wanna Live Forever” from “Fifty Shades Darker”
“Stand Up for Something” from “Marshall”
“Prayers for This World” from “Cries From Syria”
“The Promise” from “The Promise”
“Truth to Power” from “An Inconvenient Sequel”

 

Cinematography
Ben Davis, “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”
Hoyte van Hoytema, “Dunkirk”
Dan Laustsen, “The Shape of Water”
Roger Deakins, “Blade Runner 2049”
Bruno Delbonnel, “Darkest Hour”
Sam Levy, “Lady Bird”

 

Visual Effects
“Dunkirk”
“Blade Runner 2049”
“The Shape of Water
“Wonder Woman”
“Alien: Covenant”
“War for the Planet of the Apes”

 

Film Editing
Jon Gregory, “Three Billboards Outside of Ebbing, Missouri”
Lee Smith, “Dunkirk”
Sidney Wolinsky, “The Shape of Water”
Valerio Bonelli,, “Darkest Hour”
William Hoy, “War for the Planet of the Apes”
Jonathan Amos, “Baby Driver”

 

Sound (Editing and Mixing)
“Darkest Hour”
“Coco”
“War for the Planet of the Apes”
“Dunkirk”
“Blade Runner 2049”
“Logan”

 

Art Direction and Production Design
“Blade Runner 2049”
“Dunkirk”
“The Shape of Water
“Get Out”
“Downsizing”
“Phantom Thread”

 

Costume Design
Consolata Boyle, “Victoria and Abdul”
Alexandra Byrne, “Murder on the Orient Express”
Jacqueline Durran, “Beauty and the Beast”
Jeffrey Kurland, “Dunkirk”
Stacey Battat, “The Beguiled”
Mark Bridges, “Phantom Thread”

 

https://www.thewrap.com/dunkirk-the-shape-of-water-lead-satellite-award-nominations/

 

Fair to guess The Post did not screen in time.

[WrathOfHan]

NYFCC predictions with an alt:

 

Picture: Lady Bird (The Post)

Director: Greta Gerwig (Luca Guadagnino)

Actor: Daniel Day-Lewis (Timothee Chalamet)

Actress: Meryl Streep (Saoirse Ronan)

Supporting Actor: Sam Rockwell (Willem Dafoe)

Supporting Actress: Laurie Metcalf (Lesley Manville)

Screenplay: Call Me by Your Name (Lady Bird)

Cinematography: Blade Runner 2049 (Dunkirk)

First Film: Lady Bird (Get Out)

[Jake Gittes]

Lady Bird is not Gerwig's first film unless co-directed ones don't count. 

[4815162342]

NYFCC starts voting on awards about 930 EST, so about an hour 20 from now

[4815162342]

NYFCC announcing via this Twitter account: https://mobile.twitter.com/Sidney_Falco

[Cmasterclay]

Last second predictions

 

Picture: Call Me By Your Name (Alt: Lady Bird)

Director: Greta Gerwig (Alt: Jordan Peele)

Actor: Timothee Chalamet (Alt: Daniel Day Lewis)

Actress: Saorise Ronan (Alt: Frances McDormand)

Supporting Actor: Willem Dafoe (Alt: Armie Hammer)

Supporting Actress: Laurie Metclaf (Alt: Leslie Manvile)

Screenplay: Lady Bird (Alt: Phantom Thread)

First Film: Lady Bird (Alt: Get Out)

[4815162342]

After NYFCC we have the LA critics winners on December 3rd.

 

Usually New York Online and Boston Online Critics announce around the same time as LA the past few years.

[Jake Gittes]

 

[4815162342]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BEST FIRST FILM: GET OUT (JORDAN PEELE)</p>&mdash; Sidney Falco (@Sidney_Falco) <a href="https://twitter.com/Sidney_Falco/status/936263466050048000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[4815162342]

Jake wins the embed race. Stupid mobile. 

[4815162342]

5 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

 

I get the feeling he's gonna get this a lot as a consolation prize.