Weekend Thread | Weekend Estimates - Coco 26.11M, JL 16.58M, Wonder 12.5M, T:R 9.65M, MOTOE 6.7M, LB 4.54M, 3BOEM 4.53M, TDA 1.22M

[grey ghost]

55 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

What's the better definition for an original film:

 

1) A non-franchise and non-adaptation film.

 

OR

 

2) A non-sequel and non-adaptation firm

 

OR 

 

3) A non-sequel and non-franchise film

So if we use #3 the Lone Ranger and Tomorrowland are both an original film.

 

If we use #2 only Tomorrowland is an original, Lone Ranger is not.

 

I have to say, #2 seems more accurate.

[MovieMan89]

Was trying to find the next biggest live action original opening after Avatar, and looks like it's still The Day After Tomorrow shockingly enough. 

[Premium George]

2 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Right, because it's adapted from something. Let's pretend Moonlight opened to like $110m or something, BOM wouldn't have reported as the biggest original film opening, because it's not original. 

I get that, literal meaning. We agreed on it in first comment. Now I am asking what moonlight should be seen as while predicting box office. Or grey ghost pointed out a good ......point. Most people will refer it as original as it has more in common with lady bird rather than thor.

[grey ghost]

3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Was trying to find the next biggest live action original opening after Avatar, and looks like it's still The Day After Tomorrow shockingly enough. 

That's incredible.

 

And it kind of explains why Hollywood isn't mass producing original films (other than the fact that they're far riskier and more creative work).

[MovieMan89]

Just now, grey ghost said:

That's incredible.

 

And it kind of explains why Hollywood isn't mass producing original films (other than the fact that they're far riskier and more creative work).

Yeah, the top 5 live action original openings are all from 7+ years ago:

 

1. Avatar - $77m

2. The Day After Tomorrow - $68.7m

3. Bruce Almighty - $67.9m

4. 2012 - $65.2

5. Inception - $62.7

 

 

[grey ghost]

2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

That's incredible.

 

And it kind of explains why Hollywood isn't mass producing original films (other than the fact that they're far riskier and more creative work).

Maybe the original film debate should exclude limited releases.

 

It seems pointless to include them since most of their content is mostly  refreshing and not a ploy to start a franchise.

[McNerdy]

8 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Yeah, the top 5 live action original openings are all from 7+ years ago:

 

1. Avatar - $77m

2. The Day After Tomorrow - $68.7m

3. Bruce Almighty - $67.9m

4. 2012 - $65.2

5. Inception - $62.7

 

 

I hope I'll get the chance to witness the box office of another original movie with a sub 100 OW and a 9+ multiplier like Avatar. 

Edited December 4, 2017 by McNerdy

[Premium George]

1 minute ago, McNerdy said:

I hope I'll get the chance to witness the box office of another original movie with a sub 100 OW and a 9+ multiplier. 

I hope that happens with any film, original or not. But avatar also had $2 billion os which made it even more awesome run. This year we did have 5x from get out.

[AndyK]

34 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

I think a brand like a studio or even a director is a different thing than a franchise. It's like calling an actor with star power a franchise, so therefore no Leo film could be seen as "original." Don't agree with that, I'd still consider an original film he did as original. Avatar couldn't really have been called an original by those standards either since Cameron certainly had huge name power when it came out. I think an original film is simply just that, one that's not part of a franchise or adapted from anything. 

There was nothing original about Avatar other the technical aspect.

[AniNate]

Originality in the dictionary sense is different from originality in the film geek sense. That typically refers specifically to movies with genre elements conceived by auteur directors working on decent budgets. No one cares about "original" romcoms or low budget horror movies.

 

 

Edited December 4, 2017 by tribefan695

[MrGlass2]

20 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

Originality in the dictionary sense is different from originality in the film geek sense. That typically refers specifically to movies with genre elements conceived by auteur directors working on decent budgets.

No?

20 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

No one cares about "original" romcoms or low budget horror movies.

We do, and count them as successful original movies, if they rival the average superhero film at the box office. See Get Out.

Edited December 4, 2017 by MrGlass2

[TalismanRing]

1 hour ago, grey ghost said:

That's incredible.

 

And it kind of explains why Hollywood isn't mass producing original films (other than the fact that they're far riskier and more creative work).

1. Avatar - $77m

2. The Day After Tomorrow - $68.7m

3. Bruce Almighty - $67.9m

4. 2012 - $65.2

5. Inception - $62.7

 

[Hatebox]

It's a tad funny that 2012 wasn't released in, y'know, 2012. That's all I can really muster up to say about it.

[CJohn]

@MCKillswitch123 The holiday was Jesus for everything.

http://www.ica-ip.pt/fotos/downloads/ranking_fds_30_novembro_a_3_dezembro_2017_73875a25327f831f6.pdf

 

Thor is gonna die just below the 200.000 tickets sold mark. Most theaters pulled it this weekend. So close yet so far.

 

The Mountain Between Us deserved more screens. The Star and Daddy's Home 2 both did well. Portuguese Porno was solid too.

[Premium George]

8 minutes ago, CJohn said:

@MCKillswitch123Portuguese Porno was solid too.

[dxmatrixdt]

Next could be looking something like:

 

(-28.4%) - Coco - 18.707 - 134.134 total

(-39.7%) - Justice League - 10.000 - 211.54 total

(-30%) - Wonder - 8.75 - 100.232 total

(-33.3%) - Thor - 6.44 - 300.386 total

(-28.3%) - DH2 - 5.38 - 90.000 total

(-35.5%) - Murder - 4.32 - 91.333 total

 

no change - Lady Bird - 4.54 - 23.81 total

no change - 3 Billboards - 4.53 - 20.000 total

 

(-30%) - The Star - 2.80 - 30.80 total

(-33.33%) - BM2 - 2.32 - 68.32 total

(-27.75%) - Roman - 1.445 - 11.70 total

(-31.87%) - XMAS - 587,955 - 4,000,000 total

(-33.333%) - Jigsaw - 146,667 - 37,820,497 total

[Mrwick]

1 hour ago, TalismanRing said:

1. Avatar - $77m

2. The Day After Tomorrow - $68.7m

3. Bruce Almighty - $67.9m

4. 2012 - $65.2

5. Inception - $62.7

 

Are you saying Avatar is not creative? Nah surely not, no-one here is THAT stupid 

[Mrwick]

1 hour ago, Hatebox said:

It's a tad funny that 2012 wasn't released in, y'know, 2012. That's all I can really muster up to say about it.

It was a fun light hearted special effects extravaganza. Couldnt really as for much more from that movie

[Mrwick]

2 hours ago, AndyK said:

There was nothing original about Avatar other the technical aspect.

I dont think id ever seen a love story about 2 blue aliens before, whilst one is an avatar controlled by an ex military soldier who has lost the use of his legs. Avatar is pretty damn original

[TalismanRing]

13 minutes ago, Mrwick said:

Are you saying Avatar is not creative? Nah surely not, no-one here is THAT stupid 

Mrwick your posts here prove that to be erroneous time and time again.