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Best Picture Predictions - 2018

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Looking at Klansman's Meta score of 75, it would be the lowest rated BP winner since Crash (69). Prior to that, other mid-70s and lower scorers since the nineties are A Beautiful Mind (72), Gladiator (67), Titanic (75), Braveheart (68), and Dances with Wolves (72). Nowadays, you basically need a lot of acclaim from critics to win. Klansman is certainly something that could get people talking, but with the reviews and Lee apparently not being competitive enough to get into director (don't be wrong on this Coolio), it'll be hard for a win

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1 hour ago, WrathOfHan said:

Looking at Klansman's Meta score of 75, it would be the lowest rated BP winner since Crash (69). Prior to that, other mid-70s and lower scorers since the nineties are A Beautiful Mind (72), Gladiator (67), Titanic (75), Braveheart (68), and Dances with Wolves (72). Nowadays, you basically need a lot of acclaim from critics to win. Klansman is certainly something that could get people talking, but with the reviews and Lee apparently not being competitive enough to get into director (don't be wrong on this Coolio), it'll be hard for a win

 

Are you sure there isn't any more time for the Metacritic score to rise higher than that? I'm sure that, if there's more critics out there, they can cause an increase. Even if it wouldn't rise much, every bit would help, right?

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On 5/19/2018 at 7:58 PM, WrathOfHan said:

Looking at Klansman's Meta score of 75, it would be the lowest rated BP winner since Crash (69). Prior to that, other mid-70s and lower scorers since the nineties are A Beautiful Mind (72), Gladiator (67), Titanic (75), Braveheart (68), and Dances with Wolves (72). Nowadays, you basically need a lot of acclaim from critics to win. Klansman is certainly something that could get people talking, but with the reviews and Lee apparently not being competitive enough to get into director (don't be wrong on this Coolio), it'll be hard for a win

 

It is probably going to receive at least fifty reviews, so the score being 75 is not all that important right now. Brooklyn's Metacritic score right after Sundance was at 78 or something around BlacKkKlansman's Metacritic score. The movie played really well throughout the year up to its release in November and began to become more acclaimed when more reviews came in. The Metacritic score might be much better upon its release. It has happened plenty of times before. There are so many movies yet to premiere/be released to say anything about winning Best Picture, though.   

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It might happen, but I am still not convinced that Black Panther is going to be a Best Picture nominee. Too many influential people in the industry believe that superhero movies are everything that is wrong with American cinema. I can see Ryan Coogler receiving a DGA nomination, though. 

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Logan getting an Adapted Screenplay nom last year showed that the Academy isn't completely against giving comic book movies major recognition when they deserve it. Then again, that category being beyond dead was probably the most likely reason it got in.

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32 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Logan getting an Adapted Screenplay nom last year showed that the Academy isn't completely against giving comic book movies major recognition when they deserve it. Then again, that category being beyond dead was probably the most likely reason it got in.

Right. Black Panther depends on how much the tech branches support it because it’s not getting a Screenplay nomination and Coogler is pretty unlikely in Director

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15 hours ago, WrathOfHan said:

Looking at Klansman's Meta score of 75, it would be the lowest rated BP winner since Crash (69). Prior to that, other mid-70s and lower scorers since the nineties are A Beautiful Mind (72), Gladiator (67), Titanic (75), Braveheart (68), and Dances with Wolves (72). Nowadays, you basically need a lot of acclaim from critics to win. Klansman is certainly something that could get people talking, but with the reviews and Lee apparently not being competitive enough to get into director (don't be wrong on this Coolio), it'll be hard for a win

Inglourious Basterds was barely fresh on RT out of Cannes and then became one of the most celebrated movies of the year. Festival reactions and subsequent overall critical reception can be pretty different. 

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3 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

Inglourious Basterds was barely fresh on RT out of Cannes and then became one of the most celebrated movies of the year. Festival reactions and subsequent overall critical reception can be pretty different. 

 

If RT watches were a thing back then everyone would be shitting their pants over Inglourious Basterds.  Its first 6 reviews would've put it at a 17% and a 4/10 average rating.  All of its Cannes reviews gave it a 54% and 5.8/10 average.

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6 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:

Inglourious Basterds was barely fresh on RT out of Cannes and then became one of the most celebrated movies of the year. Festival reactions and subsequent overall critical reception can be pretty different. 

inglourious basterds was recut between cannes and release though. only small edits here and there but that can make or break scenes.

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Black Panther will get in.

It's a completely different era for superheroe films compared to TDK's time. The Academy cannot ignore them forever and BP is the best chance to give a nom given the whole political message and the fact that it actually got acclaim.

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2 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:

Inglourious Basterds was barely fresh on RT out of Cannes and then became one of the most celebrated movies of the year. Festival reactions and subsequent overall critical reception can be pretty different. 

 

The Cannes cut was substantially different though. Didn't QT afterwards cut an entire segment of the film that was about Shosanna getting to Paris and gaining control over the theater?

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37 minutes ago, 4815162342 said:

 

The Cannes cut was substantially different though. Didn't QT afterwards cut an entire segment of the film that was about Shosanna getting to Paris and gaining control over the theater?

no actually the theatrical cut is a minute longer w/ one extra scene. the scene just before the tavern scene where they're getting ready to go in.

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1 hour ago, CoolioD1 said:

no actually the theatrical cut is a minute longer w/ one extra scene. the scene just before the tavern scene where they're getting ready to go in.

 

Maybe it was an earlier pre-Cannes cut then, because I remember Maggie Cheung was in the film at some point as the original theater owner and filmed scenes.

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Even beyond the additional editing I think Basterds initially did throw people off with... all the things it was doing. A little sinking in did it good. 

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btw thinking about it i might've convinced myself that i'm wrong about spike lee won't get a best director nomination. people really seem to want it for him and the fact that he's been so critical of the oscars in the past but he was saying nice things about their trying to change in cannes interviews tells me he wants it too and is willing to campaign for that shit.

 

it probably helps that the movie is for sure the most direct shot at the trump administration in cinema so far right down to casting. although i guess the dick cheney movie could be that too.

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