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Just now, a2knet said:

I think so too. RO added 53 more after a 1.76 Monday last year (so 30x the Monday). That same multiplier gives TGS 30*1.36 = 41 more for 130 cume. But with better trending than RO 140+ is on the table.

What if it becomes Fox's second highest grossing movie of the year domestically? :ohmygod: 

 

Edit: I forgot about Boss Baby. Beating Apes isn't out of question tho

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6 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Holy FUCK that's an incredible hold for TGS :ohmygod: It puts 140M on the table!

I dreamed a dream in times gone by

that hope was high for Showman to make $150 million

I dreamed that Les Mis' domestic take would die

And Hugh Jackman would finally be forgiven

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1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said:

At the rate it's going, J is headed for a 10x+ multi and TGS is headed for a 16x+ multi. I know they opened on Wednesdays and all, but what the actual fuck decade is this? 

next  weekend for 4 day could be $200m+

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3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

At the rate it's going, J is headed for a 10x+ multi and TGS is headed for a 16x+ multi. I know they opened on Wednesdays and all, but what the actual fuck decade is this? 

2017 was crazy with legs. From get out to wondy to jumanji and many others, among different genres.

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4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

At the rate it's going, J is headed for a 10x+ multi and TGS is headed for a 16x+ multi. I know they opened on Wednesdays and all, but what the actual fuck decade is this? 

LOTR1 did 313/47 = 6.7x the ow (also after a Wed od like TGS and J). So 10x+ and 16x+ is amazing in this day and age. On top of that J is putting bigger numbers too.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=fellowshipofthering.htm

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Yeah MP has a LOT of interesting variables in terms of how it affects box office.  

 

I've been a member since beta and for instance there are some big work arounds to the few restrictions it has that could have some small affects on numbers.

 

For example, you can't see the same movie twice.  This restriction has been in place since beta.  But all you have to do is check into a movie you would never see and then go into that theater.  Obviously, depending on the strictness of the theater it can be harder to pull off but I've done it more than 20 times and its never been an issue.  I also don't think the theaters care as long as someones paying for it.

 

They use to have far more restrictions than they do now, you used to could see no more than one movie every 24 hour period, with a clock that would countdown your next available time to use your pass.  They axed that so now you can see a movie at 11pm on a sunday and go to a matinee on Monday.

 

I have a feeling we will see with Moviepass the same thing the music industry has seen with Spotify.  No one and i mean NO ONE thought Spotify would stay around because of the price point of their service and they royalty rates they pay the artist.  But consumers spoke and essentially forced the invisible hand to a new standard.  And the music industry has had to adapt to it.

 

Could see a very similar situation with MoviePass over the next 5-10 years, with enough volume, I think they could essentially force new ticket pricing on theaters to make the platform viable long term.

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1 minute ago, RyneOh1040 said:

Yeah MP has a LOT of interesting variables in terms of how it affects box office.  

 

I've been a member since beta and for instance there are some big work arounds to the few restrictions it has that could have some small affects on numbers.

 

For example, you can't see the same movie twice.  This restriction has been in place since beta.  But all you have to do is check into a movie you would never see and then go into that theater.  Obviously, depending on the strictness of the theater it can be harder to pull off but I've done it more than 20 times and its never been an issue.  I also don't think the theaters care as long as someones paying for it.

 

They use to have far more restrictions than they do now, you used to could see no more than one movie every 24 hour period, with a clock that would countdown your next available time to use your pass.  They axed that so know you can see a movie at 11pm on a sunday and go to a matinee on Monday.  It's quite nice.

 

I have a feeling we will see with Moviepass the same thing the music industry has seen with Spotify.  No one and i mean NO ONE thought Spotify would stay around because of the price point of their service and they royalty rates they pay the artist.  But consumers spoke and essentially forced the invisible hand to a new standard.  And the music industry has had to adapt to it.

 

Could see a very similar situation with MoviePass over the next 5-10 years, with enough volume, I think they could essentially new ticket pricing on theaters to make the platform viable long term.

Wait, you still can't see the same movie twice? If so that completely takes out a TON of the potential inflation it could have on a movie. 

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2 minutes ago, a2knet said:

LOTR1 did 313/47 = 6.7x the ow (also after a Wed od like TGS and J). So 10x+ and 16x+ is amazing in this day and age. On top of that J is putting bigger numbers too.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=fellowshipofthering.htm

TGS is still going to get 10x+ off its 5 day. Jumanji should be over 7x the 5 day. If either has ever happened for a saturated opening movie I'm not aware of it. 

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1 hour ago, MovieMan89 said:

I'm talking about what it does for a single movie, not all movies combined. Again, if everyone who has it sees a movie once, it's going to only add $13m  to that movie using average ticket price. I'd say average ticket price is a likely price to use, because most of the GA ignore "cheap showings" anyways because those are matinees which just aren't feasible for most people to go to given work/school. Discount Tuesday when it's all day is probably the only real case where the GA might hold out for, but that's not done everywhere. Now factor in that the most of the subscriber base any one movie is probably going to get is maybe 50% of the subscribers. I guess you can bump it up to 70% if you want to assume a decent chunk of them are going to do repeat viewings. But you also have to factor in that it's not all inflated gross either, because there's guaranteed to be those who would have seen the movie with or without MP. Can't imagine it could possibly add anymore than 10m inflation at the most to any given movie's gross with where it's at now, and that would require a lot of factors panning out. 

See, I disagree that it's not adding highly to movie grosses right now b/c of...

1. Its base - it has added back the one group of folks, millenials, that were falling away from movies - they are a vast majority of "new audience" for films...and they were 75% of the 1M Moviepass holders (and likely haven't fallen too much as a % now that we are at 1.5M, although who knows when MP will tell us)

2. The Free repeat factor...those movies that are so easy to rewatch are the ones blowing out multipliers right now - Jumanji and The Greatest Showman...one has "have a good time" and one has "enjoy awesome music" written all over it...see it yourself, then see it with your MP friend, then see it with your other MO friend, etc...

3. The likelihood folks are filling in late and leaving cheap open...for those who got in b/c it's a "good deal", if they weren't the folks fallen away, they were the ones taking the "cheap seats"...now all those seats are open to other buyers while these former cheap buyers buy the expensive evening showings...I mean, you have to get to a theater to buy your ticket, so all 1st shows are out (and many theaters discount these highly)...then, you want a good seat, so the later you go in a day, the better your seat...it's like a double bonus right now...

 

Now, this weekend should be interesting - you have 5 movies going wide (right?), so the Moviepass effect will likely be huge to the overall weekend gross, b/c it's almost certain you'll get all holders there once (and many 2, 3, and even 4 times), but it might spread way out b/c of how many options there are...

 

I don't know how much Paddington appeals to the MoviePass goer, so if I had to guess, I'd bet it gets the least "unexpected" bump as the weekend goes on...but then again, it should be opening the highest as the best reviewed on a holiday weekend...so, we're still really in the "guessing game" on how the market changes...

 

I will say, I'm looking for the 2nd highest MLK weekend BO ever (not sure we've got anything big enough to counter Sniper)...just like (I think) we had the highest "weekend after Jan 1 weekend" ever last weekend...I don't really care that most of the openers are "eh"...b/c "eh" will be good enough to bring acres of folks in for a free movie...

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5 minutes ago, Noctis said:

It just had to drop.

 

Also...congrats to The Last Jedi, it's now at 49% on RT audience, below mother!'s 50%. An upset for the ages.

China has spoken! Good on TLJ that very few Chinese bothered to see it otherwise RT score would drop below 30%! :lol:

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Daily Domestic Chart for Monday January 8th, 2018

← Previous Chart Chart Index  
 
    Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days
1 (1) Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony Pictures $2,668,774 -75% 3,801 $702   $248,275,093 20
2 (2) Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Las… Walt Disney $1,791,497 -74% 4,232 $423   $574,483,043 25
3 (3) Insidious: The Last Key Universal $1,770,225 -70% 3,116 $568   $31,351,580 4
- (4) The Greatest Showman 20th Century Fox $1,360,519 -64% 3,342 $407   $78,235,842 20
- (5) Pitch Perfect 3 Universal $683,630 -73% 3,458 $198   $86,739,065 18
- (9) Darkest Hour Focus Features $611,940 -62% 1,733 $353   $28,698,272 48
- (7) Molly’s Game STX Entertainment $552,632 -68% 1,608 $344   $14,725,770 15
- (6) Ferdinand 20th Century Fox $496,316 -77% 3,156 $157   $70,963,207 25
- (8) Coco Walt Disney $471,951 -72% 1,894 $249   $192,397,563 48
- (11) The Shape of Water Fox Searchlight $451,108 -52% 804 $561   $22,143,656 39
- (10) All the Money in the World Sony Pictures $322,318 -66% 2,123 $152   $20,475,453 15
- (15) Lady Bird A24 $240,333 -51% 562 $428   $34,368,455 67
- (14) Downsizing Paramount Pictures $207,652 -65% 2,020 $103   $23,140,081 18
- (-) Three Billboards Outside Eb… Fox Searchlight $197,904 -4% 310 $638   $25,590,806 60
- (-) The Post 20th Century Fox $143,869 -71% 36 $3,996   $3,991,552 18
- (-) The Disaster Artist A24 $105,555 -47% 478 $221   $19,537,337 39
- (-) Father Figures Warner Bros. $103,027 -66% 1,717 $60   $16,875,961 18
- (-) Justice League Warner Bros. $45,193 -69% 518 $87   $227,077,683 53
- (-) Thor: Ragnarok Walt Disney $44,384 -66% 325 $137   $312,504,110 67
- (-) Murder on the Orient Express 20th Century Fox $37,175 -67% 314 $118   $101,592,819 60
- (-) Daddy’s Home 2 Paramount Pictures $30,756 -73% 429 $72   $102,965,751 60
- (-) Phantom Thread Focus Features $29,136 -61% 6 $4,856   $976,326 15
- (-) Hostiles Entertainment Studi… $29,079 -61% 46 $632   $423,644 18
- (-) Blade Runner 2049 Warner Bros. $10,877 -60% 133 $82   $91,810,919 95
- (-) The Star Sony Pictures $10,061 -74% 268 $38   $40,458,465 53
- (-) The Florida Project A24 $7,084 -63% 37 $191   $5,419,860 95
- (-) A Bad Moms Christmas STX Entertainment $6,854 -67% 144 $48   $72,087,401 69
- (-) Geostorm Warner Bros. $4,300 -74% 93 $46   $33,686,265 81
- (-) Marshall Open Road $757 -54% 41 $18   $9,481,499 88
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