Jumanji: The Next Level l Sony l December 13, 2019 l 10th Most Profitable Movie of 2019

[narniadis]

Randomly thinking about it - J3 dropping to the 240 range on a % basis would be akin to how Home Alone 2 dropped from the massive (in 1991) hit of Home Alone dropping about 40% (roughly off my memory).

 

In other words, Jumanji is looking to behave normal to past expectations for drops with these types of films - we have gotten spoiled with the MCU behavior (which isn't perfect) and forget that sequels decreasing and not just 10% is the norm more than the exception.

[Clayman]

14 hours ago, ViewerAnon said:

WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE benefitted a lot from nostalgia for the Robin Williams movie, then surprised everyone by being really fun.

 

THE NEXT LEVEL is "just" a comedy sequel, and apparently not a terribly good one.

Why would it have benefited a lot from nostalgia? The first one wasn't a huge hit and Jumanji is certainly not some big brand which retained it's relevance and there was not some huge pent up demand for more Jumanji. Not to mention, WTTJ had almost nothing to do with the first one considering the characters were new and the concept was flipped. Nostalgia had barely anything to do with it's success.

Edited December 7, 2019 by Clayman

[a2k]

1 hour ago, Clayman said:

Why would it have benefited a lot from nostalgia? The first one wasn't a huge hit and Jumanji is certainly not some big brand which retained it's relevance and there was not some huge pent up demand for more Jumanji. Not to mention, WTTJ had almost nothing to do with the first one considering the characters were new and the concept was flipped. Nostalgia had barely anything to do with it's success.

JUM 1995 unadjusted:

Date	Rank	Gross	% Change	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Week
Dec 15, 1995	1	$11,084,370		2,487	$4,457	$11,084,370	1
Dec 22, 1995	3	$10,612,184	-4%	2,530	$4,195	$27,714,422	2
Dec 29, 1995	2	$17,758,997	+67%	2,530	$7,019	$57,500,265	3
Jan 5, 1996	3	$7,522,134	-58%	2,530	$2,973	$68,400,785	4
Jan 12, 1996	6	$7,014,656	-7%	2,218	$3,163	$77,101,225	5
Jan 19, 1996	6	$4,252,065	-39%	1,941	$2,191	$82,124,347	6
Jan 26, 1996	6	$3,121,223	-27%	1,771	$1,762	$86,004,677	7
Feb 2, 1996	9	$2,278,067	-27%	1,530	$1,489	$88,851,873	8
Feb 9, 1996	12	$1,431,678	-37%	1,300	$1,101	$90,631,907	9
Feb 16, 1996	16	$1,230,506	-14%	854	$1,441	$92,205,716	10
Feb 23, 1996	22	$548,357	-55%	447	$1,227	$93,059,882	11
Mar 1, 1996	22	$462,675	-16%	471	$982	$93,725,363	12
Mar 8, 1996	25	$412,615	-11%	407	$1,014	$94,303,227	13
Mar 15, 1996	27	$312,110	-24%	377	$828	$94,765,124	14
Mar 22, 1996	28	$257,863	-17%	325	$793	$95,138,631	15
Mar 29, 1996	12	$1,317,415	+411%	762	$1,729	$96,559,261	16
Apr 5, 1996	15	$1,017,888	-23%	783	$1,300	$98,135,121	17
Apr 12, 1996	16	$742,295	-27%	695	$1,068	$99,408,648	18
Apr 19, 1996	21	$406,660	-45%	615	$661	$100,109,938	19

 

Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office	$100,458,310	Details
International Box Office	$162,300,000	Details
Worldwide Box Office	$262,758,310

...on 65 prod budget (hefty for it's time). Did 4x that globally mostly from nations I guess that gave healthier returns like with Dom.

 

That was an era when home market was huge. Sometimes giving 2nd chances to not so successful films nevermind successful ones like this one.

 

I think global nostlagia was the primal reason behind JUM2's success and not SW8's underwhelming performance. That still pulled 620 Dom after all and whatever JUM2 took away from SW8 does not explain it's continued legs post holidays.

 

Date	Rank	Gross	% Change	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Week
Dec 22, 2017	2	$36,169,328		3,765	$9,607	$52,775,295	1
Dec 29, 2017	2	$50,051,364	+38%	3,765	$13,294	$169,002,557	2
Jan 5, 2018	1	$37,233,653	-26%	3,801	$9,796	$245,606,319	3
Jan 12, 2018	1	$28,101,972	-25%	3,849	$7,301	$284,237,881	4
Jan 19, 2018	1	$19,505,170	-31%	3,704	$5,266	$316,450,318	5
Jan 26, 2018	2	$16,144,874	-17%	3,553	$4,544	$337,802,077	6
Feb 2, 2018	1	$10,930,222	-32%	3,352	$3,261	$352,572,974	7
Feb 9, 2018	4	$10,023,344	-8%	3,136	$3,196	$365,855,215	8
Feb 16, 2018	4	$7,937,970	-21%	2,800	$2,835	$377,616,535	9
Feb 23, 2018	6	$5,650,497	-29%	2,519	$2,243	$387,284,712	10
Mar 2, 2018	7	$4,438,090	-21%	2,313	$1,919	$393,139,443	11
Mar 9, 2018	10	$2,742,244	-38%	2,157	$1,271	$397,250,265	12
Mar 16, 2018	12	$1,622,505	-41%	1,556	$1,043	$400,246,104	13
Mar 23, 2018	19	$847,706	-48%	1,022	$829	$401,666,157	14
Mar 30, 2018	20	$678,717	-20%	783	$867	$402,769,457	15
Apr 6, 2018	21	$441,016	-35%	478	$923	$403,652,110	16
Apr 13, 2018	26	$186,654	-58%	183	$1,020	$403,951,485	17
Apr 20, 2018	33	$129,076	-31%	175	$738	$404,134,302	18
Apr 27, 2018	36	$86,451	-33%	140	$618	$404,259,316	19
May 11, 2018	44	$49,641		98	$507	$404,422,301	21
May 18, 2018	45	$30,609	-38%	67	$457	$404,468,713	22
May 25, 2018	47	$21,495	-30%	36	$597	$404,502,381	23

 

 

 

[Clayman]

59 minutes ago, a2k said:

JUM 1995 unadjusted:

Date	Rank	Gross	% Change	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Week
Dec 15, 1995	1	$11,084,370		2,487	$4,457	$11,084,370	1
Dec 22, 1995	3	$10,612,184	-4%	2,530	$4,195	$27,714,422	2
Dec 29, 1995	2	$17,758,997	+67%	2,530	$7,019	$57,500,265	3
Jan 5, 1996	3	$7,522,134	-58%	2,530	$2,973	$68,400,785	4
Jan 12, 1996	6	$7,014,656	-7%	2,218	$3,163	$77,101,225	5
Jan 19, 1996	6	$4,252,065	-39%	1,941	$2,191	$82,124,347	6
Jan 26, 1996	6	$3,121,223	-27%	1,771	$1,762	$86,004,677	7
Feb 2, 1996	9	$2,278,067	-27%	1,530	$1,489	$88,851,873	8
Feb 9, 1996	12	$1,431,678	-37%	1,300	$1,101	$90,631,907	9
Feb 16, 1996	16	$1,230,506	-14%	854	$1,441	$92,205,716	10
Feb 23, 1996	22	$548,357	-55%	447	$1,227	$93,059,882	11
Mar 1, 1996	22	$462,675	-16%	471	$982	$93,725,363	12
Mar 8, 1996	25	$412,615	-11%	407	$1,014	$94,303,227	13
Mar 15, 1996	27	$312,110	-24%	377	$828	$94,765,124	14
Mar 22, 1996	28	$257,863	-17%	325	$793	$95,138,631	15
Mar 29, 1996	12	$1,317,415	+411%	762	$1,729	$96,559,261	16
Apr 5, 1996	15	$1,017,888	-23%	783	$1,300	$98,135,121	17
Apr 12, 1996	16	$742,295	-27%	695	$1,068	$99,408,648	18
Apr 19, 1996	21	$406,660	-45%	615	$661	$100,109,938	19

 

Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office	$100,458,310	Details
International Box Office	$162,300,000	Details
Worldwide Box Office	$262,758,310

...on 65 prod budget (hefty for it's time). Did 4x that globally mostly from nations I guess that gave healthier returns like with Dom.

 

That was an era when home market was huge. Sometimes giving 2nd chances to not so successful films nevermind successful ones like this one.

 

I think global nostlagia was the primal reason behind JUM2's success and not SW8's underwhelming performance. That still pulled 620 Dom after all and whatever JUM2 took away from SW8 does not explain it's continued legs post holidays.

 

Date	Rank	Gross	% Change	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Week
Dec 22, 2017	2	$36,169,328		3,765	$9,607	$52,775,295	1
Dec 29, 2017	2	$50,051,364	+38%	3,765	$13,294	$169,002,557	2
Jan 5, 2018	1	$37,233,653	-26%	3,801	$9,796	$245,606,319	3
Jan 12, 2018	1	$28,101,972	-25%	3,849	$7,301	$284,237,881	4
Jan 19, 2018	1	$19,505,170	-31%	3,704	$5,266	$316,450,318	5
Jan 26, 2018	2	$16,144,874	-17%	3,553	$4,544	$337,802,077	6
Feb 2, 2018	1	$10,930,222	-32%	3,352	$3,261	$352,572,974	7
Feb 9, 2018	4	$10,023,344	-8%	3,136	$3,196	$365,855,215	8
Feb 16, 2018	4	$7,937,970	-21%	2,800	$2,835	$377,616,535	9
Feb 23, 2018	6	$5,650,497	-29%	2,519	$2,243	$387,284,712	10
Mar 2, 2018	7	$4,438,090	-21%	2,313	$1,919	$393,139,443	11
Mar 9, 2018	10	$2,742,244	-38%	2,157	$1,271	$397,250,265	12
Mar 16, 2018	12	$1,622,505	-41%	1,556	$1,043	$400,246,104	13
Mar 23, 2018	19	$847,706	-48%	1,022	$829	$401,666,157	14
Mar 30, 2018	20	$678,717	-20%	783	$867	$402,769,457	15
Apr 6, 2018	21	$441,016	-35%	478	$923	$403,652,110	16
Apr 13, 2018	26	$186,654	-58%	183	$1,020	$403,951,485	17
Apr 20, 2018	33	$129,076	-31%	175	$738	$404,134,302	18
Apr 27, 2018	36	$86,451	-33%	140	$618	$404,259,316	19
May 11, 2018	44	$49,641		98	$507	$404,422,301	21
May 18, 2018	45	$30,609	-38%	67	$457	$404,468,713	22
May 25, 2018	47	$21,495	-30%	36	$597	$404,502,381	23

 

 

The box office take of the original, while big for its time, it wasn't huge, it wasn't a big sensation, or leave a cultural impact that would lead to a sequel which would make almost a billion dollars 22 years latter. Jumanji didn't leave a big lasting impact. There's not some big fandom of Jumanji that exists. People weren't keeping it alive all those years. Where was the big excitement when the sequel was announced, helmed by a director whose two most recent movies were Bad Teacher and Sex Tape? The reaction was probably how it was another needless reboot, another cash grab, how they're gonna ruin Robin Williams' legacy, and on and on. The movie succeeded because it was a fun family movie that had very good word of mouth, not because of nostalgia. At least that's my take on it.

[a2k]

10 minutes ago, Clayman said:

The box office take of the original, while big for its time, it wasn't huge, it wasn't a big sensation, or leave a cultural impact that would lead to a sequel which would make almost a billion dollars 22 years latter. Jumanji didn't leave a big lasting impact. There's not some big fandom of Jumanji that exists. People weren't keeping it alive all those years. Where was the big excitement when the sequel was announced, helmed by a director whose two most recent movies were Bad Teacher and Sex Tape? The reaction was probably how it was another needless reboot, another cash grab, how they're gonna ruin Robin Williams' legacy, and on and on. The movie succeeded because it was a fun family movie that had very good word of mouth, not because of nostalgia. At least that's my take on it.

Oh I agree with that. I was looking at a black and white match between Nostalgia vs SW8-underperformance : Which gets more credit, and went with Nostalgia. But looking further into it, the movie successfully catering to multiple quadrants as a fun family movie during Holidays is probably the main reason.

[reddevil19]

I found the second one passable at best, so it's not like I'm that disappointed in a potential huge drop for this one. BUT... I wanted the WW top 10 to all be 1b+ movies and was counting on this, dammit! Maybe CATS can do it instead... 

[Nova]

I know the first one was a surprise hit BUT for a sequel to a  movie that made over $400M domestically and $960M WW, this doesn't feel like it comes out on Friday. 

 

I enjoyed the first one. Hoping this one is just as good! 

[SnokesLegs]

Just had a quick look at how previews for this are performing near me and it’s quite ugly. An IMAX showing that started ten minutes ago has sold 20 seats in a 500+ seat auditorium...

 

2D showings aren’t faring much better either. 

[Jonwo]

5 hours ago, SnokesLegs said:

Just had a quick look at how previews for this are performing near me and it’s quite ugly. An IMAX showing that started ten minutes ago has sold 20 seats in a 500+ seat auditorium...

 

2D showings aren’t faring much better either. 

I think Frozen 2 has sucked up the family audience, the first Jumanji had a huge gap between it and Paddington 2 in the UK which was successful but not to the same extent as Frozen 2.

[Ryan Reynolds]

surprised no reviews and discount fandango tickets offered

[Legion Again]

Am I correct that an international thread for this movie doesn’t exist yet? That alone should have let us know we were in for a big drop 🤔

[Inceptionzq]

18 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

surprised no reviews and discount fandango tickets offered

There’s a limited Fandango deal of $5 off of 2+ tickets

[reddevil19]

Having seen this last night, I fear for its prospects. 

I don't think it's terrible, just... Lacking. Mind you, I wasn't a big fan of the 2017 one either, but that felt a bit more fresh and energetic. This time around, there's very little new, the Rock imitating someone gets old fast, Kevin Hart was extremely unfunny (I remain convinced his "funny" reactions are only humorous if he's being vulgar and he is always miscast in family films), pretty much all the jokes fell flat and the pacing was way off. A lot of that was down to the editing of individual scenes - weird, unnecessary reaction shots as if they were holding for laughter from the audience, for example... 

 

Don't even get me started on character development or the real world plot. I wasn't expecting much there anyway, but still... 

Anyway, there's a couple of good action scenes, I enjoyed the monkey sequence quite a lot and I thought the effects were a lot better than I was expecting. 

I just think completely doing the same movie over again was a missed opportunity and the box office drop we're looking at is very unlikely to be minimised by great word of mouth. 

 

I believe the end stinger is actually intriguing for the sequel and it's what should have been done here. 

As is, the cinema last night (7.30 PM on a Saturday night) was almost empty (maybe 50 people in my screening), there weren't many laughs and it just felt like 1. there's no built-up excitement for the movie to open big and 2. it's not a huge crowd pleaser. 

 

Perhaps my anecdotal evidence is an exception, but that's all I have now and going by my own experience, I expect major drops in most major markets. As I said, kind of a shame in terms of wasted potential, as a sequel that looked like it was bringing something new to the format (or bridging the two existing movies) would have actually increased. Let's see how it plays over the holidays; maybe its legs will still be great. 

[TwoMisfits]

6 hours ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

surprised no reviews and discount fandango tickets offered

$5 off 2 tickets at Fandango...

 

Atom deal coming next week for TMobile for $5 off any movie...that may be when they add an Atom deal b/c that would pop sales at the right time (when folks have the deal in their pocket)...Atom Chase Pay will be reintroducing their $7 off any ticket on Atom deal on Dec 11, but not sure folks who used in Nov can use again (but I'll be putting that to the test)...

[sfran43]

 

[Eric Duncan]

https://deadline.com/2019/12/jumanji-the-next-level-opening-weekend-frozen2-china-global-international-box-office-1202803809/

 

Quote

Sony’s Jumanji: The Next Level is out in 18 early overseas release markets ahead of domestic next weekend, and in many, the movie is stepping up versus predecessor Jumanji: Welcome To The Jungle. Overall, the Jake Kasdan-directed sequel opened to $52.5M at the international box office, slightly down on the last film’s $54.8M (at historical rates and in like-for-likes) while also lower than where the industry saw The Next Level ahead of the weekend — the culprit here is China.

 

There were 16 No. 1 openings for The Next Level across Europe and Asia, but rumble was lacking in the jungle in China as the film lags the previous installment with an estimated debut frame of $25.3M. It still topped the Middle Kingdom box office at No. 1 in a sluggish market where word of mouth is down, with a 6.2 on Douban and a 7.7 on Maoyan, versus the earlier film’s respective scores of 6.9 and 8.6.

 

Numbers elsewhere in Europe and Asia on The Next Level are much better, relatively, than in China. The Netherlands opened 58% ahead of the last film and the Nordics combined outperformed it by 30%. South East Asia as a whole did 47% better than Jungle including Malaysia which scored the 2nd biggest opening of the year and the biggest Sony opening ever for the market.

 

[Legion Again]

Some relatively good news from ROW. Of course comparing opens to opens is tricky when the first was a legs movie in a lot of markets.

[MrGlass2]

Who would have thought, you can't bury a movie after the OD in China.

How is that $400M worldwide prediction looking now? 🤔

[reddevil19]

1 minute ago, Eric Plus said:

https://deadline.com/2019/12/jumanji-the-next-level-opening-weekend-frozen2-china-global-international-box-office-1202803809/

 

 

France's increase is a good sign. Perhaps some of the traditional major markets will be quite good and the drop from the second movie won't be horrible after all. Should be interesting to follow, at the very least.

[sfran43]