Top Gun Maverick | May 27, 2022 | Catch it in theaters...again on December 2nd! | Comes to Paramount+ on December 22!

[RaidensSword]

21 minutes ago, Slambros said:

 

Good luck pulling in the Asian markets with a film like Top Gun: Maverick. It's a film that is fairly obviously aimed at an American audience and will need to speak to the American audience to succeed.

I agree that the American market is important but I think it will still translate well overseas and foreign markets are important to all Cruise movies. I think it will do well worldwide. 

[HesAPooka]

31 minutes ago, Slambros said:

 

Good luck pulling in the Asian markets with a film like Top Gun: Maverick. It's a film that is fairly obviously aimed at an American audience and will need to speak to the American audience to succeed.

Im not so sure the original top gun was just as big overseas as it was domestically


Its trending in Japan and many other asian countries on youtube

[Ryan Reynolds]

People gonna be shocked when this 75m+ OW. This will do Indy 4 numbers.

Edited July 19, 2019 by Ryan Reynolds

[Alli]

3 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

People gonna be shocked when this 75m+ OW. This will do Indy 4 numbers.

Reminder that The Mummy was based on a successful series too and it opened with 31M.

 

It's sad how Cruise is chasing all these franchises in hopes of a hit. It shows desperation and the public feels it. The more he tries, the more he fails

 

 

 

 

[RaidensSword]

2 minutes ago, Alli said:

Reminder that The Mummy was based on a successful series too and it opened with 31M.

 

It's sad how Cruise is chasing all these franchises in hopes of a hit. It shows desperation and the public feels it. The more he tries, the more he fails

 

 

 

 

The Mummy was Cruise basically taking over someone else's franchise and giving it a completely different tone. 

 

Top Gun is Cruise returning to one of his own most popular movies and biggest box office hits. 

 

Completely different situations. You are being disingenuous comparing apples to oranges. 

 

 

[HesAPooka]

4 minutes ago, Alli said:

Reminder that The Mummy was based on a successful series too and it opened with 31M.

 

It's sad how Cruise is chasing all these franchises in hopes of a hit. It shows desperation and the public feels it. The more he tries, the more he fails

 

 

 

 

only desperation anyone feels is your trolling lol

[Ryan Reynolds]

7 minutes ago, Alli said:

Reminder that The Mummy was based on a successful series too and it opened with 31M.

 

It's sad how Cruise is chasing all these franchises in hopes of a hit. It shows desperation and the public feels it. The more he tries, the more he fails

 

 

 

 

Reaction to trailer is almost universal praise unlike the Mummy 

[Alli]

Just now, Ryan Reynolds said:

Reaction to trailer is almost universal praise unlike the Mummy 

that doesn'tmean it will do 75M OW. Adults over 50 yo (the target audience for this movie) are not enough to make a movie a hit. it needs the teens

[Ryan Reynolds]

7 minutes ago, Alli said:

that doesn'tmean it will do 75M OW. Adults over 50 yo (the target audience for this movie) are not enough to make a movie a hit. it needs the teens

We are not that old

[Barnack]

19 minutes ago, Alli said:

sad how Cruise is chasing all these franchises in hopes of a hit. It shows desperation and the public feels it. The more he tries, the more he fails

It is not surprising, look at Will Smith shift from Original to almost pure franchise output and audience is loving it (and allow him to have a Lee movie in the mix):

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000226/

 

Top Gun 2 is not a particularly easy thing to tackle imo (I imagine it is about the end of the very existence of dog fighting the subject of the first movie), in an commercial / political era for which it is not easy to do either in big budget, if you do not set it in fantasy who to do you take to play the enemy let alone the villain.

 

[excel1]

The issue is Cruise has next to no appeal to those under 35. The MI films all skew older, etc. He is not "cool" any more. He was losing it with the early 2000s and definitely lost it in 2005. People say Will Smith is still clinging to his late 1990s mantra but good lord, Cruise is the king of this. 

 

He seems like a good dude and is a good actor. If he really wanted to get some red, he needs to pick more dramatically challenging roles rather than just playing into the stereotype of himself. The TC of the late 80s and 1990s defined "smooth cool" so much in his day that its now a stereotype that younger folks find associate with older time & find lame that he can't shake. Its similar to why nobody tries to be like Elvis or Michael Jackson or the Beatles. It was almost TOO BIG at its peak that pop culture naturally reacted off to and yet in this example, Cruise hasn't changed.

 

The HUGE stars of the 1990s still working regularly today are Cruise, Will Smith, and Brad Pitt.

 

Smith has started to work a lot less and take on more dramatic stuff while Pitt became an artsy actor and abandoned his pretty boy image. Cruise just keeps churning out the same stuff every year.

 

 

Edited July 19, 2019 by excel1

[keysersoze123]

Cruise is extremely popular in Asian markets. I cant see a Cruise action movie not do well there even if its very American.

[Barnack]

17 minutes ago, Alli said:

that doesn'tmean it will do 75M OW. Adults over 50 yo (the target audience for this movie) are not enough to make a movie a hit. it needs the teens

I feel like that a bit of an 70 to mid 2000s sentiment, teens are more and more getting irrelevant to the box office (movie that really need and target them tend to be really low budget now).

 

In 2009 12-17 were 15% of the box office business with 96% being infrequent, frequent or occasional movie goers, the over 25 were 52% of the tickets sold.

 

in 2018 the 12-17 were down to 11% of the box office business and the over 25 were 66% of the tickets sold, 79% of ticket were to adult last year and a lot of the rest were kids in a family type of watch.

 

Feel like Family and Adult audience became key over time.

 

[SLAM!]

1 hour ago, HesAPooka said:

Im not so sure the original top gun was just as big overseas as it was domestically


Its trending in Japan and many other asian countries on youtube

 

Well, that changes my perspective...

[Klingo]

2 hours ago, Slambros said:

 

Good luck pulling in the Asian markets with a film like Top Gun: Maverick. It's a film that is fairly obviously aimed at an American audience and will need to speak to the American audience to succeed.

Put Tom Cruise in a Chinese fighter aircraft and it would pull off tens of billions.

Edited July 19, 2019 by Klingo

[ThePhasmid]

I am personally getting goosebumps just thinking about witnessing Maverick break the sound barrier in IMAX with no special effects required.

[stuart360]

3 hours ago, Alli said:

Reminder that The Mummy was based on a successful series too and it opened with 31M.

 

It's sad how Cruise is chasing all these franchises in hopes of a hit. It shows desperation and the public feels it. The more he tries, the more he fails

 

 

 

 

Is this supposed to be satire or something?

[cdsacken]

3 hours ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

People gonna be shocked when this 75m+ OW. This will do Indy 4 numbers.

Not me. Trailer looked bad ass. Take my money, I shall be there.

[Warmaster506]

Fuck it over 100 million opening weekend and you can quote me on that. 

[cdsacken]

3 minutes ago, Warmaster506 said:

Fuck it over 100 million opening weekend and you can quote me on that. 

Why the hell not? Summer film, 140m budget. I'm in 100m OW+ as well!