The Summer Game is Here!! Infernus wins it... pipping WrathofHan in the final revels who had to settle for second after leading the whole way... Wrath wrapped it up in third!

[Wrath]

12 hours ago, Infernus said:

Ok, so I know this is probably going to be a no but can we, if nobody has any problem with it, not count MI6's release in China for the top 5 china grosses thing? I mean its last moment release has hurt us all more than it not being released in the stipulated time period at all would have. And on top of that it's not like those of us who put it in their top 5 were wrong about it either. One day more, only its 5th day in the market that is, is most probably all it's gonna need to get in the top 5.

We'll still be including its china gross in its worldwide gross though, of course, because there's no reason why that shouldn't be done. 

 

And yes I'll benefit by this and that's obviously part of why I'd like this to happen but I don't think that is any reason to discard this suggestion if it makes sense otherwise, right?

Absolutely not. The rules were clear up front, and this violates the spirit of the game. You make your picks and live with how they turn out.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Wrath

[baumer]

As the creator of the original game I'd have to say that I agree with the posters on here who say that this game is all about risk and it's all about the choices that you make. We made our choices in May there's no way that you should be able to go back on September 1st and make a change just because some movie is one day away from making it onto the list so they can help you out. That's not the spirit of the game and as far as I'm concerned it never will be. Mission Impossible part 6 is released in China is what it is. I'm pretty sure I have it on my top five as well but there's no way anything should change at this point in the game.

[Infernus]

Okay guys, I get it. I knew it wasn't gonna happen anyway. Just thought there's no harm in putting the suggestion out there though. 

 

I agree that the rules were clear regarding this and that we've never, at least as far as I recall, implemented changes in the middle of a game. For the risk part though I think the risk in China is far more unfounded than that in domestic box office, especially regarding release dates, and while the rules are really helpful in cases of a film not getting a release at all, last moment releases can still screw things up, considering the negative marking. But eh, I guess it just adds more flavour to the game

[Wrath]

More SotM scoring.

 

SotM 5 - The Overs and the Unders

 

8 movies were given, and you had to guess how each would do relative to its BO.com predicted total. You were guessing if the actual total would be more/less/half/double what the prediction was. Almost everyone was on-board with the format. A couple people had issues but in one case it was easy to tell what they meant, in the other case they got the same score either way. The scoring was pretty generous, which was good because most of us sucked. Not a single correct Double or Half guess was made among the lot of us. Abstaining was 3k, but no one abstained.

 

Not answering cost you a 5k penalty, though you could abstain on individual movies or questions. In the scores below, I'm only including the people who actually answered the questions.

 

To review, the movies (along with: BO.com predict - Actual - correct answer, numbers in millions) were:

Overboard - 39 - 50.3 - Higher

Life of the Party - 54 - 52.8 - Lower

Book Club - 25 - 68.6 - Double (or Higher)

Action Point - 42.5 - 5 - Half (or Lower)

Adrift - 34 - 31.4 - Lower

Tag - 43 - 54.4 - Higher

Show Dogs - 25 - 17.8 - Lower

Breaking In - 34.8 - 46.5 - Higher

 

Also, there were 10 questions. You got bonus points equal to the number of movies you guessed correctly in the previous part times the number of questions you got right in the second part times 1,000. The questions (along with correct, and sometimes surprising, answers) were:

1. Lowest Grossing Film - Action Point (24Lost was the only one to get this right)

2. Higher Grossing Film - Book Club (0 people got this right, not even Baumer who championed that movie from day 1)

3. Will any make top 20? Yes (Book Club, others might have gotten there, too, but I stopped looking once Book Club made it)

4. Will at least one Double its predict? Yes (Book Club)

5. Will at least one be Half or less its predict? Yes (Action Point)

6. Will the combined actuals be higher than the combined predicts? Yes (327M vs 297M)

7. In % terms, what will be best predict? Life of the Party (it BARELY beat Adrift. A surprisingly large number of people got this right)

8. In % terms, what will be worst predict? Action Point (Book Club missed by a lot, but not as much as Action Point. A lot of people got this one right, too)

9. Will at least 3 make more than 50M? Yes (4 did, in fact. Overboard, Life of the Party, Book Club, and Tag)

10. Will any have an OW under 5M? Yes (Action Point)

 

Finally, the scores:

 

Empire 80k

MovieMan89 80k

ZeeSoh 74k

Wrath 70k

Deja23 65k

kayumanggi 65k

bcf26 60k

Kalo 60k

24Lost 53k

Infernus 49k

Premium George 48k

That One Guy 44k

chasmmi 40k

Fancyarcher 40k

grey ghost 39k

Panda 37k

baumer 36k

JJ8 36k

Simionski 33k

Chewy 25k

aabattery 21k

MrPink 20k

WrathOfHan 16k

glassfairy 14k

Jake Gittes 11k

captainwondyful 5k

Sheik 0

 

 

Edited September 4, 2018 by Wrath

[Wrath]

SotM 4 - Weekenders

 

Easy! Pick the top 3 weekends of the summer in order. Points for picking the right weekends, more points for getting them in the right spots, even more points for getting them all right, and penalties for getting things wrong. Also, you could predict the DOM gross for the weekend as well, but you didn't have to. Abstaining from the whole thing was worth 3k, failing to answer at all was a -5k penalty. I only listed scores for people who participated (so people who may have earned 0 points participated, they just ended up with a score of 0).

 

As friendly as the scoring was for SotM 5, it was equally unfriendly here particularly if you decided to guess the gross totals. Spoiler alert: the squeamish might want to cover their eyes. Unless, of course, you got everything right...

 

The top weekends were (including every weekend anyone guessed, just for completeness):

1. April 27 - Infinity War - 306M

2. June 22 - Incredibles 2 + JW:FK - 271M

3. June 15 - Incredibles 2 - 261M

4. May 18 - DP2 - 203M

5. July 6 - Antman&Wasp - 179M

6. May 25 - Solo + DP2 - 176M

 

Guessing April 27, either June 15 or 22 (but not both), and May 25 was really popular. Depending on whether you got the spots right was the difference between 30k and 15k, which covered most respondents. For the few not in those two groups: you might have done *great*, you might have done tolerably, and there's a chance it went very badly indeed.

 

Scoring:

 

WrathOfHan - 150k (got everything right, in the right order, racking up maximum points. probably did not find this hard)

Kalo - 30k

Avatree - 30k

Deja23 - 30k

Fancyarcher - 30k

Infernus - 30k

MovieMan89 - 30k

MrPink - 30k

Panda - 30k

Sheik - 30k

Wrath - 30k

ZeeSoh - 30k

aabattery - 15k

baumer - 15k

captainwondyful - 15k

druv10 - 15k

grey ghost - 15k

kayumanggi - 15k

Spaghetti - 15k

Telemachos - 15k

Chewy - 3k

SchumacherFTW - 3k

Slambros - 3k

That One Guy - 3k

The Dark Alfred - 3k

bcf26- 0k

chasmmi - 0k

glassfairy - 0k

Simionski - 0k

AndyLL - -50k

Jake Gittes - -86k

Empire - -91k

Mike Hunt - -179k

JJ8 - -195k

Premium George - -221k

Edited September 4, 2018 by Wrath

[ZeeSoh]

Holy crap @Premium George thats a massive amount of points to lose over a single SOTM. 

 

I knew I wouldn’t do good in this sotm but I am happy I was at least in the positive. 

 

And as usual thanks @Wrath for doing these

Edited September 4, 2018 by ZeeSoh

[Infernus]

I just realized that if JW had a WW total of 1300m instead of 1300.57m as the current estimates show and if Tag had an OW of 15m instead of 14.95m, they'd have got me 100k by themselves in SOTM 7, not even including the added bonuses they'd have got me. Instead I'll be getting -16k from them....

Edited September 5, 2018 by Infernus

[baumer]

So the Purge got in the top 15 this year?  

[Premium George]

2 hours ago, ZeeSoh said:

Holy crap @Premium George thats a massive amount of points to lose over a single SOTM. 

 

I knew I wouldn’t do good in this sotm but I am happy I was at least in the positive. 

 

And as usual thanks @Wrath for doing these

In winter game, I got same or more points in positive in the same sotm. Was the main one in making me a winner. Not this time. 

[Jake Gittes]

fuck this game tbh

[Wrath]

4 hours ago, Infernus said:

I just realized that if JW had a WW total of 1300m instead of 1300.57m as the current estimates show and if Tag had an OW of 15m instead of 14.95m, they'd have got me 100k by themselves in SOTM 7, not even including the added bonuses they'd have got me. Instead I'll be getting -8k from them....

And thats exactly why I decided to wait on doing SotM 7 until everything was done. Too many things could have changed too easily.

[Wrath]

3 hours ago, baumer said:

So the Purge got in the top 15 this year?  

I’m about 90% sure it’ll be #15.

[Jake Gittes]

34 minutes ago, Wrath said:

I’m about 90% sure it’ll be #15.

It is.

 

1	Incredibles 2	BV	$602,579,381	4,410	$182,687,905	4,410	6/15	-
2	Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom	Uni.	$415,210,470	4,485	$148,024,610	4,475	6/22	-
3	Deadpool 2	Fox	$318,454,369	4,349	$125,507,153	4,349	5/18	-
4	Ant-Man and the Wasp	BV	$213,977,857	4,206	$75,812,205	4,206	7/6	-
5	Solo: A Star Wars Story	BV	$213,706,487	4,381	$84,420,489	4,381	5/25	-
6	Mission: Impossible - Fallout	Par.	$206,661,700	4,395	$61,236,534	4,386	7/27	-
7	Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation	Sony	$162,844,423	4,267	$44,076,225	4,267	7/13	-
8	Ocean's 8	WB	$139,211,301	4,145	$41,607,378	4,145	6/8	-
9	The Meg	WB	$123,802,883	4,118	$45,402,195	4,118	8/10	-
10	Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again	Uni.	$118,120,770	3,514	$34,952,180	3,317	7/20	-
11	Crazy Rich Asians	WB	$117,303,610	3,865	$26,510,140	3,384	8/15	-
12	The Equalizer 2	Sony	$100,748,027	3,388	$36,011,640	3,388	7/20	-
13	Disney's Christopher Robin	BV	$87,609,495	3,602	$24,585,139	3,602	8/3	-
14	The First Purge	Uni.	$69,069,105	3,038	$17,374,280	3,031	7/4	-

 

Add Avengers at the top and this is the top 15.

[Infernus]

SOTM 3

 

Below are 6 questions with multiple choice A, B, or C answers. 

For each question you can either answer or abstain.

 

If you are correct you win 20,000 points

If you are incorrect you lose 30,000 points

If you abstain you get 5,000 points

 

1. Avengers, Deadpool, and Solo's combined OW will be:

A. Less than $400M

B. Between $400M and $475M

C. Over $475M

 

2. Solo's China Box office will be:

A. Less than $50M

B. Between $50M and $70M

C. Over $70M

 

3. Avengers' Total admissions in South Korea will be:

A. Less than 8.5M

B. Between 8.5M and 10M

C. Over 10M (11M+)

 

4. Deadpool's UK gross will be:

A. Less than $45M (44.5)

B. Between $45M and $60M

C. Over $60M

 

5. The film with the best mulitplier will be:

A. Avengers

B. Deadpool

C. Solo

 

6. Avengers' number of weekends in the domestics top 5 + Deadpool's number of weekends in the domestics top 5 + Solo's number of weekends in the domestics top 5 will be:

A. Less than 14

B. 14 or 15

C. Over 15 (17)

 

Extras:

 

* If you answer at least 3 questions and do not get one question wrong, correct answers are worth 25,000 instead of 20,000

* If you abstain to 5 or more questions, lose 10,000 points (you still score abstain points though) 

If you score less than minus 100,000, your score will be increased up to minus 100,000 points. 

 

 

So this SOTM turned out to be far more of a mess for the players than I had thought. You know things went bad when the two most frequent scores turn out to be -25k and -60k, with 6 players getting each. Only those who played it safe managed to survive this one. Solo fucked up a lot of players both in Q1 and Q5 as nearly everyone picked Solo for best multiplier and over 475m for the combined OWs of DP, IW and Solo (Who could have imagined Solo wouldn't even get to a 92m OW). Also basically everyone thought Deadpool would cross 45m in UK. It didn't.

 

 

Rank	Name	Score (in thousands)
1	Infernus	25
1	Telemachos	25
1	Mr.Pink	25
4	That One Guy	10
4	grey ghost	10
6	MovieMan89	5
6	aabattery	5
8	Fancy Archer	-10
8	ZeeSoh	-10
8	Simionski	-10
11	Panda	-25
11	Wrath	-25
11	Kalo	-25
11	AndyLL	-25
11	SchumacherFTW	-25
11	24Lost	-25
17	Avatree	-30
18	bcf26	-45
19	Chasmmi	-60
19	Druv10	-60
19	The Dark Alfred	-60
19	Slambros	-60
19	JJ-8	-60
19	Sheikh	-60
25	kayumanggi	-75
25	glassfairy	-75
27	Mike Hunt	-80
27	Empire	-80
27	Premium George	-80
27	Jake Gittes	-80
27	Deja23	-80
32	WrathOfHan	-95
32	Baumer	-95
32	Spagheditary	-95
35	Chewy	-100 (-130 but -100 was the lower limit for this one)

Edited September 5, 2018 by Infernus

[Premium George]

Holy fuck. Am I even in positive?

[JJ-8]

 

[JJ-8]

FYI - busy marking pre-season ... have done the top 15... and there will be some shocks... was nearly even more shocking if Ant-man hadn't passed Solo on monday

 

 

[Wrath]

6 hours ago, Infernus said:

SOTM 3

 

Below are 6 questions with multiple choice A, B, or C answers. 

For each question you can either answer or abstain.

 

If you are correct you win 20,000 points

If you are incorrect you lose 30,000 points

If you abstain you get 5,000 points

 

1. Avengers, Deadpool, and Solo's combined OW will be:

A. Less than $400M

B. Between $400M and $475M

C. Over $475M

 

2. Solo's China Box office will be:

A. Less than $50M

B. Between $50M and $70M

C. Over $70M

 

3. Avengers' Total admissions in South Korea will be:

A. Less than 8.5M

B. Between 8.5M and 10M

C. Over 10M (11M+)

 

4. Deadpool's UK gross will be:

A. Less than $45M (44.5)

B. Between $45M and $60M

C. Over $60M

 

5. The film with the best mulitplier will be:

A. Avengers

B. Deadpool

C. Solo

 

6. Avengers' number of weekends in the domestics top 5 + Deadpool's number of weekends in the domestics top 5 + Solo's number of weekends in the domestics top 5 will be:

A. Less than 14

B. 14 or 15

C. Over 15 (17)

 

Extras:

 

* If you answer at least 3 questions and do not get one question wrong, correct answers are worth 25,000 instead of 20,000

* If you abstain to 5 or more questions, lose 10,000 points (you still score abstain points though) 

If you score less than minus 100,000, your score will be increased up to minus 100,000 points. 

 

 

So this SOTM turned out to be far more of a mess for the players than I had thought. You know things went bad when the two most frequent scores turn out to be -25k and -60k, with 6 players getting each. Only those who played it safe managed to survive this one. Solo fucked up a lot of players both in Q1 and Q5 as nearly everyone picked Solo for best multiplier and over 475m for the combined OWs of DP, IW and Solo (Who could have imagined Solo wouldn't even get to a 92m OW). Also basically everyone thought Deadpool would cross 45m in UK. It didn't.

 

 

Rank	Name	Score (in thousands)
1	Infernus	25
1	Telemachos	25
1	Mr.Pink	25
4	That One Guy	10
4	grey ghost	10
6	MovieMan89	5
6	aabattery	5
8	Fancy Archer	-10
8	ZeeSoh	-10
8	Simionski	-10
11	Panda	-25
11	Wrath	-25
11	Kalo	-25
11	AndyLL	-25
11	SchumacherFTW	-25
11	24Lost	-25
17	Avatree	-30
18	bcf26	-45
19	Chasmmi	-60
19	Druv10	-60
19	The Dark Alfred	-60
19	Slambros	-60
19	JJ-8	-60
19	Sheikh	-60
25	kayumanggi	-75
25	glassfairy	-75
27	Mike Hunt	-80
27	Empire	-80
27	Premium George	-80
27	Jake Gittes	-80
27	Deja23	-80
32	WrathOfHan	-95
32	Baumer	-95
32	Spagheditary	-95
35	Chewy	-100 (-130 but -100 was the lower limit for this one)

Great timing! I was going to start on that one in like an hour. If you’re doing more, let’s coordinate our efforts. I’ll probably do 7 next, unless you’re already working on it.

[Infernus]

7 minutes ago, Wrath said:

Great timing! I was going to start on that one in like an hour. If you’re doing more, let’s coordinate our efforts. I’ll probably do 7 next, unless you’re already working on it.

No, go ahead. I'll do SOTM 12

[Infernus]

Here're the total SOTM scores thus far btw. SOTMs yet to be scored are SOTM 12, 7, 1 and 2 - 

 

Rank	Name	Total (in thousands)	SOTM 3	SOTM 4	SOTM 5	SOTM 8	SOTM 9	SOTM 10	SOTM 11	SOTM 6
1	Wrath	342	-25	30	70	90	59	35	80	3
2	That One Guy	341	10	3	44	86	41	5	97	55
3	Infernus	327	25	30	49	86	41	36	38	22
3	WrathOfHan	327	-95	150	16	90	54	12	97	3
5	aabattery	325	5	15	21	90	26	35	121	12
6	MovieMan89	305	5	30	80	86	90	11		3
6	ZeeSoh	305	-10	30	74	90	41	36	104	-60
8	bcf26	298	-45	0	60	90	57	12	121	3
9	Deja23	274	-80	30	65	90	41	21	104	3
10	Fancy Archer	271	-10	30	40	88	41	22	85	-25
11	kayumanggi	245	-75	15	65	90	47	5	121	-23
12	Simionski	222	-10	0	33	90	0	36	121	-48
13	grey ghost	207	10	15	39	90	0	0	50	3
14	Panda	202	-25	30	37	90	70	0	0	0
15	Sheikh	184	-60	30	0	78	39	35	97	-35
16	Baumer	183	-95	30	36	82	35	36	84	-25
17	Mr.Pink	180	25	30	20	90	0	12	0	3
18	Captain Wondyful	164	0	15	5	90	30	12	0	12
19	Chasmmi	153	-60	0	40	74	18	19	97	-35
20	Chewy	81	-130	3	25	86	18	12	67	0
21	glassfairy	80	-75	0	14	90	17	29	30	-25
22	Kalo	65	-25	30	60	0	0	0	0	0
23	Jake Gittes	60	-80	-86	11	62	39	14	121	-21
24	24Lost	54	-25	-10	53	3	27	3	0	3
25	Empire	39	-80	-91	80	90	25	12	-42	45
26	Telemachos	15	25	-5	-5	0	0	0	0	0
27	JJ-8	5	-60	-195	36	78	21	39	64	22
28	SchumacherFTW	-27	-25	3	-5	0	0	0	0	0
29	Druv10	-50	-60	15	-5	0	0	0	0	0
30	Avatree	-53	-30	30	-5	0	0	0	0	-48
31	Slambros	-59	-60	3	-5	0	0	0	0	3
31	The Dark Alfred	-59	-60	3	-5	0	0	0	0	3
33	AndyLL	-80	-25	-50	-5	0	0	0	0	0
34	Spagheditary	-85	-95	15	-5	0	0	0	0	0
35	Mike Hunt	-264	-80	-179	-5	0	0	0	0	0
36	Premium George	-276	-80	-221	48	0	0	0	0	-23

Edited September 5, 2018 by Infernus