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19 minutes ago, The Horror of Lucas Films said:

I can't accept this excuse. The problem isn't with this movie/franchise only, pretty much every Monster movie released this decade has disappointed OS, and most of the time, they're saved by China only. The genre is suffering, it's not this movie only. Even the ones that actually do decent DOM like MEG/Rampage fails to cross even $400m OS, and this despite counting with a BIG help from China.

These kind of things tend to be cyclical, it’s the same as how Westerns we’re massive at one point but aren’t any longer. The disaster movie was last truly popular in the late 90’s/early 2000’s, I’m sure they’ll increase in popularity again at some point, but it’ll take more than the third film in a mixed results Godzilla universe to get people interested.

 

If this film ends up underperforming, it’s because the GA didn’t find it appealing from the trailers. I know they managed to get the Godzilla fans hyped, but speaking personally the trailers made it look like CGI destruction porn and nothing more. I’d argue that the GA also doesn’t have a clue who King Ghidora or Rodan are either, so that isn’t as much of a selling point as some Godzilla fans seem to think. Spectacle will only get you so far.

 

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What is happening with the WB movies this year ?

such a terrible year for WB 

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44 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Guys. The reason this is underperforming is the reason I’ve been saying all along. People didn’t like the first Godzilla and because of that didn’t have interest in the sequel 

I think G14 has the 2nd worst reception for a blockbuster this decade. 

 

BvS reception while toxic got way more exposure because both the public and the media teamed up to shit on DC. While critics were ok with G14. 

 

I hated it too but I was willing to give this a chance after great trailers. I'm really on the fence right now waiting for reactions to see if this is similar to Venom when it might not be good but you can enjoy it if you don't look too deep. 

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Just now, AnDr3s said:

What is happening with the WB movies this year ?

such a terrible year for WB 

Its been a fine year, sure they had Lego 2, but the rest has been ok, just not breakout

Keep in mind in 2015 San Andreas was their biggest movie and in 2017 they had four costly flops

 

 

I think the studio has made very solid recent changes, 2018 was a great year and this year, again although no movie has fully broken out, their films have at least been solid and I expect KoTM will be a solid double for the studio ala Shazam and DP

 

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8 minutes ago, SnokesLegs said:

These kind of things tend to be cyclical, it’s the same as how Westerns we’re massive at one point but aren’t any longer. The disaster movie was last truly popular in the late 90’s/early 2000’s, I’m sure they’ll increase in popularity again at some point, but it’ll take more than the third film in a mixed results Godzilla universe to get people interested.

 

If this film ends up underperforming, it’s because the GA didn’t find it appealing from the trailers. I know they managed to get the Godzilla fans hyped, but speaking personally the trailers made it look like CGI destruction porn and nothing more. I’d argue that the GA also doesn’t have a clue who King Ghidora or Rodan are either, so that isn’t as much of a selling point as some Godzilla fans seem to think. Spectacle will only get you so far.

 

Not sure if it's a problem with marketing. G14 had one of the best marketing for a blockbuster this decade and it still underperformed OS. And you can't even blame the legs because it had weak OWs too, on the opposite of DOM where it exploded on OW.

 

Kong had a good marketing, was a fun adventure well received by critics and audience alike and it sill did mediocre numbers OS-C. 

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21 minutes ago, Cookson said:

Personal assaults doesn’t change the fact it’s still too early to call. Yes, I’m a Godzilla fan who recognizes tracking in like 6 territories out of 75 is low. We’ll see. Can’t wait to watch the film.

I'm sorry. I didn't want to attack you, I'm just getting desperate with these low numbers, lol.

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On 3/23/2018 at 5:27 PM, kaijukurt said:

Judging by how early screenings are pointing to a ton of action, and with no Beauty & the Beast-esque opener on its 2nd weekend..Ill go with $500m for now.

 

Ahhh..this aged like fine wine. 

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7 minutes ago, kaijukurt said:

 

Ahhh..this aged like fine wine. 

Lol yeah unless things pan out better in China and other territories 500m might be the WW gross. Wouldn’t be BAD off a 170m budget(rumored by deadline) but definitely not what we expected.

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12 minutes ago, Cookson said:

Lol yeah unless things pan out better in China and other territories 500m might be the WW gross. Wouldn’t be BAD off a 170m budget(rumored by deadline) but definitely not what we expected.

 

Yup, Id be fine with a WW tally of $500m at this point. 

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Positives:

The two big international territories, China and Japan, looked to have had decent opening days. Roughly 19m in China and 2.3m in Japan.. both usd. Let’s hope the WOM is good and continues in both territories.

 

Negatives:

Really looking to open with meh results in a handful of other reported territories.

 

Hopeful results/outcome:

KotM opens in 75 markets... between all of them only a handful have reported. It’s possible not “everywhere” is having meh results. If these markets(minus China) combined an average of 2m... that’s BOOM 150m right there. Might need markets like Japan etc. to fill in some gaps though.

 

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Argentina, Bolivia and Paraguay opened 2nd behind Aladdin 2nd thursday, Uruguay came in 3rd. 

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Opened at #3 in Germany with around 50k adm ≈ €500k ≈ $560k behind Aladdin (115k!) and John Wick 3 (60k) and on par with Rocketman.

In adm it will probably be 4th for the weekend in $ it has a solid chance at 3rd due to the higher ticket prices than Rocketman.

 

 

Seems like it's really on the way to 150k (what I posted yesterday).

 

 

I know the OD Multi looks low, but yesterday was a holiday and the weather will get better until Sunday, two things that will make this weekend incredibly depended on Thursday.

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early estimate for a 67M weekend in China

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22 minutes ago, efialtes76 said:

Weak numbers in France, UK, Russia, SK, Argentina, Italy, Hong Kong...

 

I dont think 12.7 over 51 markets good for any country. But let us wait until Sunday to see how the trend is.

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