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Presales Update:

 

Alita Battle Angel, 4 days before release

 

OD: 19 show-times (-3) | 3906 seats available (-449) | 107 tickets sold (+28 in last 3 days)

 

This chain is roughly about 20% of the market. 

 

It lost more showtimes, but now all of what remains have tickets sold so I doubt it will continue to lose. More worryingly for Alita, more than half of its presales come from a single theater (57 out of 107). In the rest, the most that it has sold is 7 tickets. I checked other chain and while I found one show with 40/336 tickets sold, most of the other had sold 5 tickets at best.  Its appeal seems to be very limited. 

 

Captain Marvel 25 days before release

 

OD: 112 show-times | 27872 tickets available | 133 tickets sold.

 

This chain still hasn't done any promotion for its presales but there's still a fair amount of tickets sold. In the other chain there are shows that already have sold more than half of its seats.

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Top 5 Weekend February 7-10th

 

1.-How to Train Your Dragon 3

2.-The Lego Movie 2

3.-Glass

4.-Escape Room

5.-Dragon Ball Super: Broly

 

Dragons 3 continues at the top and could continue to lead for a long time. Alita is the only thing that could dethrone it but seems extremely unlikely if its presales are any indications. After that, there's basically no competition until Captain Marvel on March 7th, and by that point, Chimuelo would have spent 6 weeks at number one. 

 

Screen Daily reported 3M USD for Dragons 3. That would indicate a rather harsh drop but last weekend they reported 2,1M and actuals came at 2,39M. It seems that they are not counting the 285k ""previews"" that Mojo has (I honestly don't know when it grossed that). If that is the case, that would be a solid if unspectacular hold closer to 25%. Severe floods in northern Chile could also be a factor. 

Finally, I asked about its admissions but the only thing I got was that it had already crossed 600K admissions

 

Lego debut doesn't seem that bad but I suspect is more because of the weakness of the non-dragon BO rather than the strength of the film. 

 

Glass and Escape Room hold well while Broly got its 5th weekend in the top 5, a record for the very frontloaded franchise. 

 

Bohemian Rhapsody is finally out of the top 10 after 11 weekends. Very impressive run

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12 minutes ago, scabab said:

So what's Broly at now? I'm surprised it's still as high as #5.

Fox stopped tracking so is hard to know. Is doing less than 80k in weekends tough, because that what Escape Room did (only actual released so far) 

 

 

Summer is very leggy, and lack of strong competition helped it mantain screens. If this was released in say June it would be out of theathers by now. If I had to guess i'd say high 3M 

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Some actuals. February 7-10

TW Movie Studio Weekend Gross Change Screens Change / Avg. Gross-to-Date Week
- How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World UPI $505,119 -34.1% 74 +6 $6,826 $3,129,484 3
- Glass Disney $130,110 -18.4% n/a - n/a $1,079,546 4
- Escape Room Sony $80,014 -21.4% 52 -1 $1,539 $240,456 2
- Ralph Breaks the Internet Disney $38,660 -39.9% n/a - n/a $4,143,971 12
- Beautiful Boy (2018) Sun $23,673 - 19 - $1,246 $23,673 1
- Suspiria Gussi $19,725 - 21 - $939 $19,725 1
- Mary Poppins Returns Disney $16,843 -51.0% n/a - n/a $595,725 5
- Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse Sony $2,120 -73.8% 4 -6 $530 $905,111 8

 

 

Harsh drop for HTTYD 3. Lego affected it more than I thought it would. It needs to start holding better (flat or close to -10%) if it wants a spot in the top 20 of all time. Alita will dethrone it in gross this current weekend (admission is more uncertain) 

 

Glass held excellently and has passed Split. Good success after a weak opening. Escape Room also held very well but will be destroyed by Happy death day 2 u. 

 

Lego, being WB, doesn't have a gross reported but it lost 60% of its showtimes this weekend so a sub $1m USD total is not out the question, will know in a few months. 

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Weekend Placements February 14-17 

 

 

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

Sunday

1

Alita: Battle Angel

Alita: Battle Angel

How to Train Your Dragon 3

How to Train Your Dragon 3

2

How to Train Your Dragon 3

How to Train Your Dragon 3

Alita: Battle Angel

Alita: Battle Angel

3

Happy Death Day 2 U

Happy Death Day 2 U

Happy Death Day 2 U

Happy Death Day 2 U

4

Glass

Glass

Lego 2

Lego 2

5

Lego 2 Lego 2

Glass

Glass

 

Lot of movement over the weekend. Alita was very strong on OD, helped by Valentine's Day but slowed down significantly after that. Despite that, it will win in gross thanks to a heavy 3d and premium screen push. How to Train Your Dragon 3 continues to show strength and has achieved its fourth consecutive weekend at the top despite its disadvantage in showtimes (22% less than Alita), I'm expecting a solid hold for this weekend but will need more of those to reach top 20. Remember that the placements are cumulative, so the winner in Sunday won the whole weekend.

 

Happy Death Day 2 u likely had a decent opening, a little held back by the lack of screens. Glass continues to hold well and Lego had the typical proper weekend surge for animation. 

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Some of last Weekend Actuals (February 14-17)

 

TW Movie Studio Weekend Gross Change Screens Change / Avg. Gross-to-Date Week
- How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World UPI $388,292 -23.1% 73 -1 $5,319 $3,698,873/ $3,825,729 4
- Happy Death Day 2U UPI $162,888 - 71 - $2,294 $162,888/ $207,040 1
- Glass Disney $99,148 -23.8% n/a - n/a $1,254,295 5
- Green Book Sun $78,130 - 36 - $2,170 $78,130 1
- Escape Room Sony $52,443 -34.5% 35 -17 $1,498 $336,435 3
- Ralph Breaks the Internet Disney $20,499 -47.0% n/a - n/a $4,190,987 13
- Mary Poppins Returns Disney $9,083 -46.1% n/a - n/a $616,919 6
- Beautiful Boy (2018) Sun $6,246 -73.6% 8 -11 $781 $39,908 2
- Suspiria Gussi $2,251 -88.6% 5 -16 $450 $31,174 2
- Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse Sony $869 -59.0% 2 -2 $435 $908,146 9

 

HTTYD 3 continues to struggle with holds but bizarrely The Numbers and Mojo report different gross-to-date. Given that this also happens with HDD2U it seems to be a Universal problem. I have a very convulsed theory: I think Universal doesn´t report Thursday as part of the weekend, that would explain why all of its movies appear with "preview gross" despite not having any real previews. And what happened this weekend is that mojo forgot to include Thursday (which was Valentine's day) in the total gross. Anyway, lets see if the problem continues next weekend... 

 

Alita doesn't have its gross reported, Fox seems to track movies in Chile that gross under 500k usd on OW so... 

 

Glass keeps holding nicely and could double Split, extremely impressive. Green Book opening is meh. 

 

Oscars nominees like Spiderverse and A Star is Born are having a very small re expansion at the smallest chain (20% of the market) but is just one showtime per day. I doubt they will make more than 10k usd each. 

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Weekend placements

  1. A dog's way home
  2. How To Train Your Dragon 3
  3. Alita: Battle Angel
  4. The Lego Movie 2
  5. Happy Death Day 2 U

 

What an upset! A dog's way home came out of nowhere and topped the Chilean BO after a whole month of Dragon's reign. 

How To Train Your Dragon 3 has reached 885.000 admissions after 32 days. Moana had 850k after 35 days and ended with 1.138m admission. Moana had more summer tough, Dragons having only one week left. A similar total can be expected, which would be the best of the series.

 

 

I also got info on Alita. It has 166k admissions after 11 days. Ready Player One had 168k after 14 and ended with 250k. A fairly decent performance I must say.

 

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Dreamworks Animation by admissions

  1. Shrek 2 (2004): 1.078.367
  2. How To Train Your Dragon 2 (2014): 1.046.434
  3. Shrek Forever After (2010): 1.012.535
  4. The Boss Baby (2017): 1.009.775
  5. How To Train Your Dragon 3 (2019): 885.000+*
  6. The Croods (2013): 805.351
  7. Puss In Boots (2011): 718.937
  8. Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011): 697.531
  9. Shrek (2001): 657.540
  10. Kung Fu Panda (2008): 637.986
  11. Madagascar 3 (2012): 636.736
  12. Trolls (2016): 634.065
  13. Shrek the Third (2007): 588.562
  14. Kung Fu Panda 3 (2016): 583.215
  15. Madagascar (2005): 581.816
  16. Turbo (2013): 537.144
  17. The Penguins of Madagascar (2014): 529.748
  18. Home (2015): 498.453
  19. Madagascar 2 (2008): 455.930
  20. Rise of the Guardian (2012): 369.791

  21. Over The Hedge (2006): 343.994

  22. Mr. Peabody & Sherman (2014): 279.585

  23. Flushed Away (2006): 272.842

  24. How to Train Your Dragon (2010): 272.167

  25. Megamind (2010): 237.750

  26. Spirit (2002): 199.319

  27. Monsters v/s Aliens (2009): 195.632

  28. Captain Underpants (2017): 186.361

  29. Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (2003): 184.212

  30. Bee Movie (2007): 136.639

  31. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbi (2005): 97.270

 

*Still on release

 

HTTYD 3 is :locked: to top Shrek 2 as the most viewed Dreamworks Animated movie, after 15 years... 

 

 

 

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Captain Marvel 8 days before release

 

OD: 120 show-times (+2) | 29540 (+677) tickets available | 1095 (+628) tickets sold.

 

They added shows for Wednesday 6th that are selling very well, but I didn't notice those until late so I won't track them because it would be much time consuming figuring out the size of the auditoriums 

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Captain Marvel Pre-sales Update: 24 HOURS TO GO.

 

For Previews: Unfortunately my chain added more showtimes and now I don't' have any good comp that I know. If I only use the old showtimes, pre-sales are 2078 tickets. Extrapolating that gives 12,200 tickets for previews. 

 

Therefore (and take this with a HUGE amount of salt):

 

Bohemian Rhapsody Comp: $1,480m USD OW

Thor Ragnarok Comp: $1,980m USD OW

 

Both would be best ever for Marvel. But I'm relying on a lot of assumptions, this is more of an experiment. We'll see how it turns out.

 

OD DATA (To use for future End Game comparison).  

 

Captain Marvel | 2 days to go. 

 

29450 seats available | 120 showings | 3964 tickets sold 

 

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Some actuals from last weekend: 

TW LW Movie Studio Weekend Gross Change Screens Change / Avg. Gross-to-Date Week
1   A Dog's Way Home Sony $265,418 -2.6% 95 +1 $2,794 $691,714 2
2   How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World UPI $243,281 -4.2% 74 - $3,288 $4,591,847 6
4   Green Book Sun $96,079 +84.8% 59 +14 $1,628 $303,029 3
8   Glass Disney $40,495 -30.4% n/a - n/a $1,412,349 7
10   Happy Death Day 2U UPI $26,979 -63.1% 47 -19 $574 $385,379 3
-   Vice n/a $24,225 -35.5% n/a -20 n/a $72,733 2
-   Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse Sony $10,236 +330.1% 16 +7 $640 $923,057 11

 

 

A dog's Way home continues to lead a very weak BO while Dragons 3 finally got a good hold and must be around 1m admissions. It will end just over $5m USD. Both movies likely benefited from the "last weekend of school holidays" effect 

 

Green Book got a huge Oscar Boost but its total so far is barely a 1/4 of what last year winner, The Shape of Water, did. Spider-verse achieved a 5x multiplier thanks to its limited expansion. 

 

Today Captain Marvel is released with over 850 showtimes (provisional, final should be close to 900), the widest release of the year 

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Widest Releases of the Year (showtimes per day)

  1. Captain Marvel: 900 showtimes 
  2. How To Train Your Dragon 3: 701 showtimes
  3. The Lego Movie 2: 617 showtimes
  4. Alita Battle Angel: 542 showtimes
  5. Dragon Ball Super Broly: 457 showtimes

 

Marvel Phase 3.

 

Captain America: Civil War : Aprox 3,173M Opening WEEK | $6,784,327 Total

Doctor Strange: $837,239 OW | $2,548,326 Total | 3.04 Multiplier

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2:$994,851 OW | $3,154,354 Total | 3.17 Multiplier

Spider-Man:Homecoming: $1,365,654 OW | $4,362,392 Total | 3.19 Multiplier

Thor:Ragnarok: $1,339,568 OW | $3,736,319 Total | 2.79 Multiplier

Black Panther:  $1,156,408 OW | $4,942,845 Total | 4.27 Multiplier 

Avengers Infinity War:  $4,525,397 OW | $14,607,578 Total | 3.22 Multiplier

Ant-man and the Wasp: $675,422 OW | $2,464,969 Total | 3.64 multiplier

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Top 5 weekend March 7th-10th 

  1. Captain Marvel
  2. A dog's way Home
  3. How To Train Your Dragon 3
  4. Alita Battle Angel
  5. El Manicomnio 

Captain Marvel scored the 6th best opening weekend of all time with 340.000 admissions.  Depending on the average ticket price that could translate to around ~2m USD. I expect this to be very frontloaded but even with Civil War admission multiplier (3,2; the most frontloaded movie of the MCU) it will get over 1m admissions, by far the best origin story and has a good chance of beating Iron Man 3's 1,1m admissions to be the most viewed solo Marvel movie. 

 

The rest of the top 5 was the same as last weekend (down one place) save for El Manicomnio which is a German horror movie which original title I don't remember. 

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Some weekend actuals (March 7-10th)

 

- Captain Marvel Disney $2,334,642 - n/a - n/a $2,334,642 1
- A Dog's Way Home Sony $158,746 -40.2% 83 -12 $1,913 $919,791 3
- How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World UPI $128,903 -47.0% 64 -10 $2,014 $4,751,033 7
- Green Book Sun $49,146 -48.9% 27 -32 $1,820 $377,287 4
- On the Basis of Sex Sun $13,155 - 12 - $1,096 $13,155 1
- Glass Disney $11,962 -70.5% n/a - n/a $1,438,395 8

 

 

HUGE opening for Captain Marvel with a ridiculous average ticket price. Almost 7 dollars (standard is 4,7 with current ER). Should pass 6m USD easily even with almost unprecedented frontloadeness. 

 

A dog's Way home continues to be a surprise hit while Dragons 3 suffered a harsh but expected drop. Honestly very disappointing legs after its second-weekend hold. Could miss 5m USD if Wonder Park hits it too hard in terms of screens. 

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Top 5 weekend March 7th-10th 

  1. Captain Marvel
  2. Wonder Park
  3. Cold Pursuit
  4. A dog's way Home
  5. How To Train Your Dragon 3

Captain Marvel eased just 30% (per Asgard) to achieve a very impressive 1,6m USD second weekend. No doubt aided by Endgame's trailer and the lift of restrictions on discounts but is the second best 2nd weekend hold for the MCU after The Avengers (-20% in 2012).

 

Wonder Park and Cold Pursuit didn't bomb entirely but the rest of the BO is rather weak so its placement isn't much indication of anything. 

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5 hours ago, Thanos Legion said:

2.3 opening, very good second weekend drop, how are the chances to go over $10M?

Almost impossible. With restrictions lifted the ticket price will fall very quickly. It will also suffer a harsh drop this weekend (totally normal after the first weekend with discounts). 

 

I think it will end around 7m-8m, which would still be insane for a solo movie 

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