Rambo: Last Blood | September 20 2019 | Rambo going to the old town road one last time

[JB33]

8 hours ago, Krissykins said:

On Rotten Tomatoes on my phone, all of the reviews on the first page for this are ratings of 1. 
 

yikes. 

Yikes indeed. Not surprising though. Just skimming over the blurbs on RT, most of them are pretty brutal. No "eh, it's not bad but I personally didn't care for it" kind of reviews. 

 

Meh, to be expected for mindless action entertainment. Nothing wrong with it. I may be going this Tuesday to see it with a buddy who is in to these movies.

[Firepower]

I think RT is seriously broken....

Edited September 22, 2019 by Firepower

[The Futurist]

1 minute ago, Firepower said:

I think RT is seriously broken...

They think they hare so much better than their elders.

Makes me want to vomit.

[Avatree]

4 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

They think they hare so much better than their elders.

Makes me want to vomit.

movie opinion bad

 

big brain time futurist.

[dudalb]

On 9/20/2019 at 6:34 PM, Captain Craig said:

This is one of the massive misunderstandings....its not about the Border, illegals crossing or "stealing jobs" or any of that political stuff AT ALL.

Maybe the filmmakers did not intend it to be political, but given what is going in today's politics it is going to be seen as political. That happens with some subject matter.

If James Cameron "True Lies" would have been released In the fall of 2001, it would have been seen as political, for obvious reasons,no matter what Cameron intended.

[dudalb]

The film will make money, but won't be the kind of retro hit the studio intended.

[Deja23]

Saw this a couple of days ago. It was okay I guess. Not my type of film, but my friends really wanted to watch it. It wasn’t as gory as I expected and it was pretty short thankfully. My sister barely watched it, choosing to look away through most of it, especially the gory scenes. 

[The Futurist]

18 hours ago, Avatree said:

movie opinion bad

 

big brain time futurist.

That s my problem with these people, movies is the least of their interest.

It s all about the progessive (or whatever  you wanna call it...) meter rating and not much else.

Obviously, SLy scored badly with this new Rambo movie.

 

Do they even realize they are the new prudes Hollywood made fun of in the 70's and 80's ?

 

Different sins but same bigot mentality.

[Macleod]

On 9/20/2019 at 3:03 PM, Kthuxi said:

Rambo is one of my favourite movies but not only that, it was my first introduction to the action genre. The story was about a guy, who just happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now I know there are lots of hollywood movies out there but that is all irrelevant to me. I just need the action. The biggest thing that made the first Rambo so awesome was its action. It looked like the action films in most other hollywood films, to put it bluntly. If you want a simple action film to watch without any story or any background, watch Rambo. If you want a story without a protagonist, watch some action movies. And if you want to see some crazy shit, watch a Rambo movie.

Congrats, you just missed the entire point of First Blood, and why so many veterans identified with it.  He's not "in the wrong place at the wrong time," it's HIS place, HIS country.  The local cop played wonderfully by Brian Dennehy is, in the script, a Korean War veteran himself, and his "grudge" towards Rambo is partially to do with that.  But in the movie itself, Dennehy's character, along with most other locals, are clearly dismissive and disrepectful towards Rambo, even after they find out who he is.  It's what many real Vietnam Veterans were going through when they came home -- they were yelled at and spit on arriving at airports in the U.S., when none of this was really their fault whatsoever.  My Dad was a Vietnam vet, so I take this personally, too.  

 

And no, the action didn't just look like so many other films -- the type and rhythm of the action in First Blood in fact greatly influenced the shift in Hollywood action movies of the 80s and beyond.  Plus, no one wanted to do the script for years -- it passed through 20 drafts and numerous A-list stars, all of whom passed because they presumably didn't want to tromp through the forest or deal with rats in caves.  Stallone did all of this (albeit reluctantly, at first).  

 

On 9/20/2019 at 9:30 PM, Blaze Heatnix said:

Are there different versions of the movie around the world?

 

The running time is 89 minutes according to BBFC. However, I watched the movie again hours ago and that one was 100 minutes long ( including the credits ). 

 

 

Yes.  Even Fandango in the U.S. lists the running time at 1hr, 41 mins. which is not true for the U.S. cut.  There is at least one full scene cut out, amongst possibly other things.  The early promo shot of Rambo in the rain on his horse...that scene is nowhere to be found in the U.S. cut!  

 

But it's clear that either Stallone's ego or Millennium's costs got in the way, here...there's not one mention or any footage of Trautman in the flashbacks!  Even Rambo IV showcased him!  

 

As for the movie...it's quite disappointing, indeed...but I don't see the "offensiveness" in it like certain critics seem to.  The most un-P.C. thing about the movie is that Bulgarian extras are playing Mexicans!  Anyone catch that?  😉

Edited September 23, 2019 by Macleod

[The Futurist]

Rambo attacking the vietcong village in Rambo II is one of the most incredible and iconic action set pieces of the 80's.

FUCK.

YEAH.

[Captain Craig]

Rambo Last Blood doing $19m for it's OW is pretty solid. Only slightly off tracking and with a $50m budget isn't going to be a problem for it's investors. 

 

Stallone mentioned sequel ideas after this one if it did well. So what does "do well" mean in the current context I wonder?

[dudalb]

4 hours ago, Captain Craig said:

Rambo Last Blood doing $19m for it's OW is pretty solid. Only slightly off tracking and with a $50m budget isn't going to be a problem for it's investors. 

 

Stallone mentioned sequel ideas after this one if it did well. So what does "do well" mean in the current context I wonder?

Sorry, but IMHO "Solid" has become a pretty meaningless term.

[Barnack]

6 hours ago, Captain Craig said:

Rambo Last Blood doing $19m for it's OW is pretty solid. Only slightly off tracking and with a $50m budget isn't going to be a problem for it's investors. 

 

It is hard to say for it's investors with how a movie like that i financed, maybe it will be much better for some of them.

 

But for Liongates that bought Domestic+UK distribution right for $10M it is a really strong start yes (I imagine that at that price point the producers have some movie performance bonus in place ?), more than doubled their negative acquisiton on OW box office.

Edited September 23, 2019 by Barnack

[dudalb]

27 minutes ago, Barnack said:

It is hard to say for it's investors with how a movie like that i financed, maybe it will be much better for some of them.

 

But for Liongates that bought Domestic+UK distribution right for $10M it is a really strong start yes (I imagine that at that price point the producers have some movie performance bonus in place ?), more than doubled their negative acquisiton on OW box office.

ALso studio expectations always have a lot to do with whether a film is seen as successful or not.

[Laurent K]

What could be the final Bo in usa ? Is 45 M out of reach ?

[Barnack]

31 minutes ago, dudalb said:

ALso studio expectations always have a lot to do with whether a film is seen as successful or not.

 

Not sure what would be a better indication of the studio side market expectation than the price the movie achieved to be sold at.

[Blaze Heatnix]

1 hour ago, Laurent K said:

What could be the final Bo in usa ? Is 45 M out of reach ?

 

It's up to legs now, I guess...I don't think Downton Abbey and AD Astra are huge competition. I mean, the audience isn't the same for both movies. 

 

It could perform like Rambo 4 and finish with something like 40/41 million domestic. It could perform like the first John Wick ( 14 million opening and 42 million total ). 

[Captain Craig]

16 hours ago, dudalb said:

Sorry, but IMHO "Solid" has become a pretty meaningless term.

Good thing I was talking about MY Opinion. Um, thanks for being contrary though.

[John Marston]

outside of the second film, Rambo has never been that huge

[Barnack]

7 minutes ago, John Marston said:

outside of the second film, Rambo has never been that huge

 

I feel that view is a bit influenced by narrative from those media pundit of those days.

 

1	ET: The Extra-Terrestrial	$792,965,326	$435,110,554	$357,854,772	54.87%
2	Tootsie	$177,200,000	$177,200,000		100.00%
3	An Officer and a Gentleman	$129,795,554	$129,795,554		100.00%
4	Gandhi	$127,767,889	$52,767,889	$75,000,000	41.30%
5	First Blood	$125,212,904	$47,212,904	$78,000,000	37.71%
6	Rocky III	$125,049,125	$125,049,125		100.00%
7	Poltergeist	$121,706,019	$74,706,019	$47,000,000	61.38%
8	Porky's	$109,492,484	$109,492,484		100.00%
9	Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan	$95,800,000	$78,912,963	$16,887,037	82.37%
10	Das Boot	$84,970,337	$11,487,676	$73,482,661	13.52%

 

First blood was bigger than rocky 3 and stark trek 2

 

1	Back to the Future	$385,524,784	$212,259,762	$173,265,022	55.06%
2	Rambo: First Blood Part II	$300,400,000	$150,415,432	$149,984,568	50.07%
3	Rocky IV	$300,373,716	$127,873,716	$172,500,000	42.57%
4	Out of Africa	$258,210,860	$79,096,868	$179,113,992	30.63%
5	A View to a Kill	$152,627,960	$50,327,960	$102,300,000	32.97%
6	The Dream is Alive	$125,900,000	$125,900,000		100.00%
7	The Color Purple	$93,589,701	$93,589,701		100.00%
8	Cocoon	$76,257,348	$76,257,348		100.00%
9	The Jewel of the Nile	$68,275,764	$68,275,764		100.00%
10	Witness	$65,532,576	$65,532,576		100.00%

 

Rambo 3 was still bigger than classic giant success like Big, Die Hard.

 

1	Rain Man	$412,800,000	$172,825,435	$239,974,565	41.87%
2	Who Framed Roger Rabbit?	$351,500,000	$154,112,492	$197,387,508	43.84%
3	Coming to America	$288,800,000	$128,152,301	$160,647,699	44.37%
4	Crocodile Dundee 2	$239,606,210	$109,306,210	$130,300,000	45.62%
5	Twins	$216,600,000	$111,936,388	$104,663,612	51.68%
6	Rambo III	$188,715,611	$53,715,611	$135,000,000	28.46%
7	Big	$151,668,774	$114,968,774	$36,700,000	75.80%
8	Die Hard	$139,109,346	$81,350,242	$57,759,104	58.48%
9	Masquerade	$91,593,744	$15,855,828	$75,737,916	17.31%

 

 

The 3 were giant blockbuster, almost all of them in the top 5 of their year's (not sure how it translate in today environment say being in the top 10-12 today, a 500-600m WW style of success, going purely with US dollar inflation the 2 smallest Rambo were a 332m and an over 400M movies).

 

But because the press was looking almost exclusively at domestic in 1988 and that the VHS revenues were not fully accounted for either, Rambo 3 was described has a flop by the press (Cleopatra style).