Wednesday numbers: MI6 $6.33M

[Legion Again]

1 hour ago, sfran43 said:

How fitting!

We did it! Now it’s time to pull this puppy from theaters ASAP. Hope they didn’t ruin things by selling tickets on Thursday.

[Legion Again]

I2 and HT3 also had huge increases today from Monday. It feels like the Tuesday drops this summer have been even bigger than past summers, but Wed drops haven’t grown to compensate, so the Mon:Wed ratios are >1 (sometimes significantly) rather than ~= or <1.

[Moviefanatic]

Which summer movie has delivered the most crow so far? I'm gonna say JW2

[sfran43]

1	MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - FALLOUT Paramount 4,386	$6,838,935 -59.8% / $1,559 $68,075,469 / 4	$9,451,166 +38.2% / $2,155 $77,526,635 / 5	$6,328,934 -33% / $1,443 $83,855,569 / 6	N/A
2	MAMMA MIA! HERE WE GO AGAIN Universal 3,514	$2,602,225 -44.4% / $741 $73,126,845 / 11	$3,866,650 +48.6% / $1,100 $76,993,495 / 12	$2,863,700 -25.9% / $815 $79,857,195 / 13	N/A
3	HOTEL TRANSYLVANIA 3: SUMMER VACATION Sony / Columbia 4,005	$1,870,542 -48.7% / $467 $121,047,683 / 18	$3,077,345 +64.5% / $768 $124,125,028 / 19	$2,253,664 -26.8% / $563 $126,378,692 / 20	N/A
4	THE EQUALIZER 2 Sony / Columbia 3,388	$1,575,933 -63.2% / $465 $65,827,295 / 11	$2,301,064 +46% / $679 $68,128,359 / 12	$1,545,485 -32.8% / $456 $69,673,844 / 13	N/A
5	ANT-MAN AND THE WASP Buena Vista 3,013	$1,278,835 -53.2% / $424 $184,769,062 / 25	$1,908,663 +49.3% / $633 $186,677,725 / 26	$1,376,054 -27.9% / $457 $188,053,779 / 27	N/A
6	INCREDIBLES 2 Buena Vista 2,616	$1,147,888 -47.9% / $439 $574,028,649 / 46	$1,667,541 +45.3% / $637 $575,696,190 / 47	$1,325,380 -20.5% / $507 $577,021,570 / 48	N/A
7	TEEN TITANS GO! TO THE MOVIES Warner Bros. 3,188	$1,189,426 -55.5% / $373 $11,600,615 / 4	$2,039,886 +71.5% / $640 $13,640,501 / 5	$1,250,000 (estimate) -38.7% / $392 $14,890,501 / 6	N/A
8	JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM Universal 2,685	$930,910 -54.2% / $347 $398,439,145 / 39	$1,324,985 +42.3% / $493 $399,764,130 / 40	$1,024,875 -22.7% / $382 $400,789,005 / 41	N/A
9	SKYSCRAPER Universal 2,773	$701,280 -55.7% / $253 $59,792,495 / 18	$1,109,605 +58.2% / $400 $60,902,100 / 19	$782,975 -29.4% / $282 $61,685,075 / 20	N/A
10	THE FIRST PURGE Universal 1,400	$361,840 -44.5% / $258 $65,831,115 / 27	$452,690 +25.1% / $323 $66,283,805 / 28	$346,175 -23.5% / $247 $66,629,980 / 29	N/A
11	UNFRIENDED: DARK WEB BH Tilt 1,547	$279,010 -36.3% / $180 $7,643,350 / 11	$371,625 +33.2% / $240 $8,014,975 / 12	$276,080 -25.7% / $178 $8,291,055 / 13	N/A
12	SORRY TO BOTHER YOU Annapurna Pictures 802	$196,626 -50.7% / $245 $13,471,838 / 25	$240,406 +22.3% / $300 $13,712,244 / 26	$217,382 -9.6% / $271 $13,929,626 / 27	N/A
-	EIGHTH GRADE A24 158	$184,749 -47.7% / $1,169 $3,102,632 / 18	$221,487 +19.9% / $1,402 $3,324,119 / 19	$209,290 -5.5% / $1,325 $3,533,409 / 20	N/A
-	BLINDSPOTTING Lionsgate/Summit 523	$170,677 -49.7% / $326 $1,921,209 / 11	$253,510 +48.5% / $485 $2,174,719 / 12	$190,813 -24.7% / $365 $2,365,532 / 13	N/A
-	WON'T YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR? Focus Features 464	$113,905 -49.9% / $245 $20,162,287 / 53	$125,215 +9.9% / $270 $20,287,502 / 54	$133,295 +6.5% / $287 $20,420,797 / 55	N/A
-	SICARIO: DAY OF THE SOLDADO Sony / Columbia 574	$85,173 -58.5% / $148 $48,811,738 / 32	$105,015 +23.3% / $183 $48,916,753 / 33	$85,550 -18.5% / $149 $49,002,303 / 34	N/A
-	LEAVE NO TRACE Bleecker Street 289	$62,018 -54.5% / $215 $4,709,638 / 32	$73,996 +19.3% / $256 $4,783,634 / 33	$83,066 +12.3% / $287 $4,866,700 / 34	N/A
-	UNCLE DREW Lionsgate/Summit 532	$75,039 -48.1% / $141 $41,450,499 / 32	$106,732 +42.2% / $201 $41,557,231 / 33	$78,694 -26.3% / $148 $41,635,925 / 34	N/A
-	AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Buena Vista 292	$61,889 -51% / $212 $677,623,975 / 95	$74,496 +20.4% / $255 $677,698,471 / 96	$60,912 -18.2% / $209 $677,759,383 / 97	N/A
-	DEADPOOL 2 Fox 267	$39,210 -53.2% / $147 $317,717,032 / 74	$47,897 +22.2% / $179 $317,764,929 / 75	$41,142 -14.1% / $154 $317,806,071 / 76	N/A
-	SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY Buena Vista 165	$23,985 -49.5% / $145 $212,754,633 / 67	$28,968 +20.8% / $176 $212,783,601 / 68	$27,602 -4.7% / $167 $212,811,203 / 69	N/A
-	HEREDITARY A24 127	$21,553 -45.1% / $170 $43,768,153 / 53	$24,786 +15% / $195 $43,792,939 / 54	$23,051 -7% / $182 $43,815,990 / 55	N/A
-	BOOK CLUB Paramount 145	$14,753 -45.1% / $102 $68,428,611 / 74	$18,596 +26% / $128 $68,447,207 / 75	$18,958 +1.9% / $131 $68,466,165 / 76	N/A
-	MCQUEEN Bleecker Street 5	$15,012 -43.2% / $3,002 $261,795 / 11	$15,284 +1.8% / $3,057 $277,079 / 12	$17,192 +12.5% / $3,438 $294,271 / 13	N/A
-	A QUIET PLACE Paramount 158	$19,582 -38.1% / $124 $187,973,852 / 116	$17,036 -13% / $108 $187,990,888 / 117	$11,556 -32.2% / $73 $188,002,444 / 118	N/A
-	SANJU FIP 44	$7,522 -70.8% / $171 $7,823,633 / 32	$17,407 +131.4% / $396 $7,841,040 / 33	$10,986 -36.9% / $250 $7,852,026 / 34	N/A
-	ADRIFT STX Entertainment 75	$4,367 -51% / $58 $31,425,070 / 60	$6,732 +54.2% / $90 $31,431,802 / 61	$4,956 -26.4% / $66 $31,436,758 / 62	N/A
-	FIRST REFORMED A24 10	$2,874 +13.1% / $287 $3,441,723 / 74	$1,909 -33.6% / $191 $3,443,632 / 75	$2,983 +56.3% / $298 $3,446,615 / 76	N/A
-	THE CATCHER WAS A SPY IFC 23	$2,011 -60.2% / $87 $678,458 / 39	$2,397 +19.2% / $104 $680,855 / 40	$2,671 +11.4% / $116 $683,526 / 41	N/A
-	FAR FROM THE TREE IFC 3	$1,153 -51.2% / $384 $40,970 / 11	$1,638 +42.1% / $546 $42,608 / 12	$1,648 +0.6% / $549 $44,256 / 13	N/A
-	CHAPPAQUIDDICK Entertainment Studios 1	N/A	N/A	$628 -- / $628 $17,395,520 / 118	N/A
-	BLACK PANTHER Buena Vista 15	$404 -37.9% / $27 $699,955,339 / 165	$693 +71.5% / $46 $699,956,032 / 166	$400 -42.3% / $27 $699,956,432 / 167	N/A

[Captain Craig]

Meanwhile, Black Panther is down there at charts bottom going...I need $44K more!!!

 

[KP1025]

6 minutes ago, Captain Craig said:

Meanwhile, Black Panther is down there at charts bottom going...I need $44K more!!!

 

 

Looks like Disney gave it an expansion this weekend for Christopher Robin double features. 🤣

 

> EXPANDING
1	1	Mission: Impossible - Fallout	Paramount	4,395	+9	+0.2%	2
12	25	Eighth Grade	A24	1,084	+926	+586.1%	4
21	24	Solo: A Star Wars Story	Buena Vista	200	+35	+21.2%	11
26	61	McQueen	Bleecker Street	34	+29	+580.0%	3
28	46	Black Panther	Buena Vista	25	+10	+66.7%	25
31	75	Woman Walks Ahead	A24	6	+3	+100.0%	6

Edited August 2, 2018 by KP1025

[Legion Again]

26 minutes ago, Moviefanatic said:

Which summer movie has delivered the most crow so far? I'm gonna say JW2

IW easily. If you don’t want to count that then imo Solo.

[Moviefanatic]

9 minutes ago, KP1025 said:

 

Looks like Disney gave it an expansion this weekend for Christopher Robin double features. 🤣

 

> EXPANDING
1	1	Mission: Impossible - Fallout	Paramount	4,395	+9	+0.2%	2
12	25	Eighth Grade	A24	1,084	+926	+586.1%	4
21	24	Solo: A Star Wars Story	Buena Vista	200	+35	+21.2%	11
26	61	McQueen	Bleecker Street	34	+29	+580.0%	3
28	46	Black Panther	Buena Vista	25	+10	+66.7%	25
31	75	Woman Walks Ahead	A24	6	+3	+100.0%	6

What in the entire fuck?! That's not going to do anything. AWIT part 2 has begun 

[Moviefanatic]

1 minute ago, Thanos Legion said:

IW easily. If you don’t want to count that then imo Solo.

Hmm maybe I should reread the IW threads. I thought a good amount of posters thought it would be big. 

[LonePirate]

BP needs a PTA of $1,743 between Thursday - Sunday to reach $700M. Unless some of the added screens are drive-ins or Mickey has some new magic, BP will still fall short.

[Captain Craig]

3 minutes ago, Moviefanatic said:

Hmm maybe I should reread the IW threads. I thought a good amount of posters thought it would be big. 

There were numerous folks saying that agreed it would be biggish, meaning $400m or so but dismissing $500m+ because a superhero team up movie was no longer new or niche enough to draw people into the theater. That word of mouth would be bad when it was revealed to be a cliffhanger and a stealth Part One film.  The fact it got so close to $700m proved a lot of those folks wrong. 

[filmlover]

1 hour ago, Jake Gittes said:

Can we get a 10m OW?

It's been getting a very heavy ad push around me. Not sure about its exact potential but I do feel confident that it will at least avoid the miserable fate of Detroit last year.

[fastclock]

1 hour ago, Barnack said:

The range for a 10m budget movie P+A can vary a lot (Get Out had a giant P+A budget with a 4-5m or something type of budget, low budget movie can have close to blockbuster type P+A cost in the USA, not having product placement to help), but that one with a pre-establish fan-base with pre-awareness aiming only at said  fabanse could be on the lower range of it.

 

But it is still a studio release and getting over 3,000 theater, who knows what kind of targeted online push it got and how much those cost.

 

Very fanbanse driven / low budget production example of P+A cost, actual prints for them can be close to $0 now, but you often have some fee to pay for theater chain to transfer to digital conversion still.

 

If we look at something like

 

One Direction: This is Us

 

The 40m or so guess would make sense:

 

DIRECT PRODUCTION COSTS (13,220)

 

Theatrical release cost of 37m

DTH MARKETING (18,070)

DTH PRINTS (COS) (3,025)

DTH WPF, DUES, OTHER (COS) (2,020)

ITH MARKETING (9,000)

ITH PRINTS (COS) (3,500)

ITH WPF, FREIGHT, OTHER (COS) (1,500)

 

Home:

DHE MARKETING (3,225)

IHE MARKETING (4,508)

TV MARKETING (200)

 

Totals marketing cost of 35m.

 

 

 

 

So, let's say the cost is 10M production + $35 P&A, that means it probably needs, say $30M DOM (about $15M income), $25M international (about $10M) and $30M ancillary (about $20M) just to break even?

 

The axiom 2xproduction budget to profit definitely would not work for the smaller budget movies, right?

[Barnack]

4 minutes ago, fastclock said:

 

So, let's say the cost is 10M production + $35 P&A, that means it probably needs, say $30M DOM (about $15M income), $25M international (about $10M) and $30M ancillary (about $20M) just to break even?

 

The axiom 2xproduction budget to profit definitely would not work for the smaller budget movies, right?

 

Smaller the movie often mean also a larger proportion of the movie revenues being post theatrical. But yes in general for very small budget getting wide theatrical release, the production budget become such a small proportion of the movie total cost that the rules of thumb using the production budget cannot really be use.

 

A 4m horror movie getting a 35, 40 if not 50+m world release cannot turn a profit making 9m WW, for example.

 

If you take my One Direction example

 

Net prodution cost: 13.2m

At a planned world theatrical release cost of : 31.837

 

They estimated they would need to make around 39.6m WW (so 3 time the budget instead of 2, despite being domestic heavy) to break even.

 

With 18.23m in revenues from theater, 38m after.

 

 

 

 

[MikeQ]

Incredibles 2 has a higher PTA than Ant-Man and the Wasp, Equalizer 2, and Teen Titans, for the fourth best PTA in the top 12. It and Fallen Kingdom have been riding strong legs together through this summer.

 

Looking forward to when Black Panther passes 700M so I don't have to read any more complaining about how Black Panther hasn't passed 700M yet.

 

Peace,

Mike

[sfran43]

 

[sfran43]

 

[Eric Atreides]

7 minutes ago, sfran43 said:

 

...when did Dog Days move to Wednesday?

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, CoolEric258 said:

...when did Dog Days move to Wednesday?

Earlier this week.

[sfran43]