I Watched One Episode of ‘Game of Thrones’ and Determined American TV is for Perverts

[Premium George]

1 hour ago, Jake Gittes said:

Now I'd like to see an essay from Fullbuster on the state of American TV based on Episode 8 of Twin Peaks: The Return.  

Or Dennis Reynolds.

[Premium George]

Also @Fullbuster have you ever been to japan? Every country has it's problem, paedophilia is of japan.

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2054271,00.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/57eaaf23-0cef-48c8-961f-41f2563b38aa

It's like school shootings in america. Rare in vacuum, but  still much more than other developed parts of the world to make it a problem. I am not going into anime here as that will be too easy.

[robertman2]

Fanservice is the reason why I've stopped watching most anime. I've even stopped watching the adaptation of a game I adore because how much fanservice was added to the anime. It's a shame. Oh well, at least I have Jojo, Dragon Ball and My Hero Academia.

[SLAM!]

I consider myself a 'conservative' anime fan, and the reason is because of all of the fanservice that has permeated the industry. I only watch anime shows that are focused on telling a legitimate story and conveying deep themes, to be honest; in other words, no hentai for me.

 

I do think that you're onto something, though: in anime, it's a flat, 2D plane; in Game of Thrones, the visceral imagery is real. And that's HBO for you. HBO's gonna HBO.

 

So yeah, I'm not gonna be watching either anytime soon, and that's because I share your personal taste, in that such content is repulsive to watch. 

[Fullbuster]

7 hours ago, Premium George said:

Also @Fullbuster have you ever been to japan? Every country has it's problem, paedophilia is of japan.

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2054271,00.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/57eaaf23-0cef-48c8-961f-41f2563b38aa

It's like school shootings in america. Rare in vacuum, but  still much more than other developed parts of the world to make it a problem. I am not going into anime here as that will be too easy.

 

I just know that having videos of nudekids was allowed several years ago before being prohibited after international pressure, it was a shame and glad it's over.

Of course Japan has its own issues, I'm not exactly a fan of them chasing whales or being so far behind the rest of the developed world in terms of women's representation in politics/high-ranked positions but all these things are unrelated to the thread, you're trying to move the goalpost.

[Fullbuster]

7 hours ago, RobrtmanAStarWarsReference said:

Fanservice is the reason why I've stopped watching most anime. I've even stopped watching the adaptation of a game I adore because how much fanservice was added to the anime. It's a shame. Oh well, at least I have Jojo, Dragon Ball and My Hero Academia.

 

I don't like fanservice much unless it's rare but there's too much I don't like it and it ruins some anime. However some people are going too far and see every sexy woman in an anime as "fanservice" or an insult, it's like all women should be ugly and flat.

 

And this anime you stopped watching is Persona 5 I guess.

[Fullbuster]

6 hours ago, Slambros said:

I consider myself a 'conservative' anime fan, and the reason is because of all of the fanservice that has permeated the industry. I only watch anime shows that are focused on telling a legitimate story and conveying deep themes, to be honest; in other words, no hentai for me.

 

I do think that you're onto something, though: in anime, it's a flat, 2D plane; in Game of Thrones, the visceral imagery is real. And that's HBO for you. HBO's gonna HBO.

 

So yeah, I'm not gonna be watching either anytime soon, and that's because I share your personal taste, in that such content is repulsive to watch. 

 

I'm glad to see someone having the same view than me, it's good to see

I don't like fanservice, apart from Fairy Tail because it doesn't ruin the show unlike other anime, I'm not here to defend "fanservice" but let's say that people act like anime is the only "art form" that should be ban because of that while several US shows are praised for doing the exact same thing + ultra violence going with it. Double standards.

 

So yeah, I defend anime because many anime just do't do this. I'm watching Sakura Clear Card for example and there's zero presence of this kind of thing and I love that they didn't choose to sexualize Sakura one way or another, she's still this cute, shy and smart little girl now in middle school and it's great because I feared fanservice before the show comes.

[Premium George]

42 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

I just know that having videos of nudekids was allowed several years ago before being prohibited after international pressure, it was a shame and glad it's over.

Of course Japan has its own issues, I'm not exactly a fan of them chasing whales or being so far behind the rest of the developed world in terms of women's representation in politics/high-ranked positions but all these things are unrelated to the thread, you're trying to move the goalpost.

I literally said, I didn't go into anime cos it will be too easy. From pokemon to code Geass, from needless to hxh, there are ton of mainstream animes that have treated paedophiles as heroes. This are the most famous animes. Going even a little deeper makes it worst. Loli amd prevert trope, both are problematic and yet are employed freely. Yet you decided to attack a show that doesn't condone any of these. 

[Fullbuster]

52 minutes ago, Premium George said:

I literally said, I didn't go into anime cos it will be too easy. From pokemon to code Geass, from needless to hxh, there are ton of mainstream animes that have treated paedophiles as heroes. This are the most famous animes. Going even a little deeper makes it worst. Loli amd prevert trope, both are problematic and yet are employed freely. Yet you decided to attack a show that doesn't condone any of these. 

I think anime haters just imagine things in many cases, if such things happened in Pokemon I'm 100% certain it wasn't intentional given they do everything they can to avoid anything that could hurt their brand as kid-friendly.

 

The hatred is going too far, and that's why it's good to show this kind of terrible things seem fine in many western shows but not anime, double standards. Attack both forms of entertainment or attack nothing.

[The Panda]

5 hours ago, Fullbuster said:

I think anime haters just imagine things in many cases, if such things happened in Pokemon I'm 100% certain it wasn't intentional given they do everything they can to avoid anything that could hurt their brand as kid-friendly.

 

The hatred is going too far, and that's why it's good to show this kind of terrible things seem fine in many western shows but not anime, double standards. Attack both forms of entertainment or attack nothing.

If it’s attack both forms of entertainment or attack none, why did you attack American TV without attacking anime?

Edited August 13, 2018 by PANDA

[RandomCat]

I also want to know how one can base all of American Television off of one episode of GoT?

[Fullbuster]

2 minutes ago, PANDA said:

If it’s attack both forms of entertainment or attack none, why did you attack American TV without attacking anime?

 

My role here is to balance things, anime are unfairly criticized by a noisy minority but GOT is pretty much unscathed so attacking anime would disturb the balance even more.

 

I'm like the judge, watching defense attorneys and prosecutors debating in the courtroom

[The Panda]

2 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

My role here is to balance things, anime are unfairly criticized by a noisy minority but GOT is pretty much unscathed so attacking anime would disturb the balance even more.

 

I'm like the judge, watching defense attorneys and prosecutors debating in the courtroom

I don’t recall anime ever really being a major point of discussion here, but okay.

[Fullbuster]

28 minutes ago, PANDA said:

I don’t recall anime ever really being a major point of discussion here, but okay.

 

Not here specifically, but I already explained that earlier.

[The Panda]

1 hour ago, Fullbuster said:

 

Not here specifically, but I already explained that earlier.

I’m simply saying, your thread comes across as a pointed a finger (at pretty much this entire forum) saying we’re all perverts because we watch American TV (which is ridiculous, even if you talked about Thrones specifically).

 

Then you say it’s a response to anime criticism, but you didn’t specify that until afterwards (especially since Id never seen legit anime criticism on this board).

 

It comes across as both hypocrisy and as an attempt to display yourself as morally superior to everyone else on the board.

Edited August 13, 2018 by PANDA

[robertman2]

Closest I've seen to criticism is me giving Xenoblade 2 shit for embracing the worst parts of anime and some people making hentai jokes

Edited August 13, 2018 by RobrtmanAStarWarsReference

[Fullbuster]

7 minutes ago, PANDA said:

I’m simply saying, your thread comes across as a pointed a finger (at pretty much this entire) saying we’re all perverts because we watch American TV (which is ridiculous, even if you talked about Thrones specifically).

 

Then you say it’s a response to anime criticism, but you didn’t specify that until afterwards (especially since Id never seen legit anime criticism on this board).

 

It comes across as both hypocrisy and as an attempt to display yourself as morally superior to everyone else on the board.

 

That's really not the intention, it really was about anime defense more than anything else.

 

[RandomCat]

As a casual fan of anime, this kind of thing is what makes people not like Anime.

[Fullbuster]

8 minutes ago, RandomCat said:

As a casual fan of anime, this kind of thing is what makes people not like Anime.

 

No.

[The Panda]

9 minutes ago, RandomCat said:

As a casual fan of anime, this kind of thing is what makes people not like Anime.

Like I honestly don’t care what people are into as long as it’s not causing harm to others (child porn, racist propaganda, actual immoral stuff like that).  I have a few friends that watch anime, I watched a few episodes of it, wasn’t my thing, I moved on (I like some of Miyazaki’s stuff and I like Nintendo games, but none of those are anime).

 

I may inwardly think somebody has poor taste if they like something I don’t, but I’m not going to post an article trying to blast the character of pretty much everybody in the US (and Western Europe at that given American TV is popular there too) because they watch a mainstream genre of entertainment.  

 

That’s what riled me up about the thread