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This is going to be unpopular opinion but digging up someone's old quotes says more about the digger than the quoter. There's nothing but malice behind trying to ruin someone and that's what digging dirt is all about. X doens't like Y. X wants to ruin Y. X digs up Y's old quotes under pretense that he is exposing Y for the greater good. Y gets ruined. X does the same to another celebrity they don't like while his susccess prompts more people to dig up old quotes by celebs they don't like in order to ruin their careers. 

 

Look, I don't give a shit about celebrities. They are humans like any of us, only in a highly overpaid industry that also gives them leeway to be jerks given that there are teams whose job is cleaning up celebrity mess and covering up for transgressions. They are also showered with perks and followed by people who tell them 24-7 that they are the best thing since sclided bread. If such person becomes a diva, a-hole or worse, and loses touch with reality (see all those ultra privileged celebs denouncing their privilege from multi-million $ mansions that they coincidenctly didn't denounce), don't be disappointed cause they shouldn't have been your role model to begin with. I never udnerstood looking up to celebrities and holding them to a higher standard. They are not special, they are only in the industry that pretends that they are.

 

But anyway, my point is that if Simu said that yesterday, the backlash would be 100% on him. But since he said that 6 years ago, it's all on the quote digger so no one should treat that guy as a hero who "enlightened" us about Simu Liu's misguided thoughts from 2015. he didn't do it because he meant well but because he wanted to see SL fired. There's a difference between celebrity saying stupid shit and getting an instant negative feedback (celebrity made his own bed) and someone digging up old dirt in order to discredit a celebrity they don't like and that creating backlash against the celebrity but not the one who did the dirty work and is clearly no better. 

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Looks like the discussion is starting to fading already.

 

Also, there are some posts popping showing evidences that some of the things exposed yesterday was made up or taken out of context (maybe that's why the discussion is fading, this and the fact that people find out he already adressed this in early 2019). 

 

In case anyone is interested in the parts that are distorted, this thread is very complete. It does look like someone was interested in destroying Simu reputation.

 

 

 

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Just now, Heroicpiglet said:

There is a pattern, first someone dug up his old interview and now this; maybe someone is trying to ruin his life

I was going to joke that clearly Beijing is out to get him, but I’m afraid people would take that seriously.

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On 9/17/2021 at 12:46 PM, Legion of the Ten Crores said:

Yeah this is much tamer than Gunn, and not going to cause any harm like e.g. Letitia's recent comments. An apology seems very likely, but SC2 wasn't coming until like 2024+, don't see this being an issue with staying power.

 

More curious how it plays vis a vis 2021 china release, but didn't have too high hopes there anyway.

 

To be honest, it's not ...looking good on Weibo here.    https://i.imgur.com/osmhbkj.png

 

They're mostly criticizing Simu for being a pedophile sympathizer, the repost from twitter gained a lot of attraction after a few hours today, nonfans who didn't even know Simu before, now know him as a pedophile sympathizer. Hater taking their chance to laugh at Marvel and Feige for insisting on casting Simu. I think it's also important to point out that, coincidentally, today a prisoner received the death penalty in the mainland for raping and killing a 4-year-old girl (【男子性侵4岁女童被... - @新浪新闻的微博 - 微博 (weibo.com)) so the pedophile subject is extremely sensitive to touch.

 

Can't tell if this would affect SC film releasing in China but Simu's reputation really gets harmed.

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14 minutes ago, Arian1010 said:

 

To be honest, it's not ...looking good on Weibo here.    https://i.imgur.com/osmhbkj.png

 

They're mostly criticizing Simu for being a pedophile sympathizer, the repost from twitter gained a lot of attraction after a few hours today, nonfans who didn't even know Simu before, now know him as a pedophile sympathizer. Hater taking their chance to laugh at Marvel and Feige for insisting on casting Simu. I think it's also important to point out that, coincidentally, today a prisoner received the death penalty in the mainland for raping and killing a 4-year-old girl (【男子性侵4岁女童被... - @新浪新闻的微博 - 微博 (weibo.com)) so the pedophile subject is extremely sensitive to touch.

 

Can't tell if this would affect SC film releasing in China but Simu's reputation really gets harmed.

i have already written off china from my mind if it gets released there good if not then who cares....it has become tiresome if people really cant use their brains...then its their problem not simu,it seems like its very easy to judge someone for his/her mistakes but when it comes to our own mistakes ..well..its an entirely different situation.Anyways its shame that people cant judge and are ready to jump the gun so easily ,unfortunately it is something that humans have done and will continue to do so...shame

 

 

ps being optimistic i hope that the the vast majority of people being the rational one (the people not in the internet) will judge better (i am speaking generally).I thing that much like in the us..that matter will be forgotten in a matter of days 

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Pretty much no one is talking about this anymore from what i saw, at least on twitter. On China could still be a big thing but at this point clearly some people there just wants to hate him and this movie.

 

Box office also not impacted, considering the great FRI projection Charlie posted.

 

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56 minutes ago, john2000 said:

i have already written off china from my mind if it gets released there good if not then who cares....it has become tiresome if people really cant use their brains...then its their problem not simu,it seems like its very easy to judge someone for his/her mistakes but when it comes to our own mistakes ..well..its an entirely different situation.Anyways its shame that people cant judge and are ready to jump the gun so easily ,unfortunately it is something that humans have done and will continue to do so...shame

 

 

ps being optimistic i hope that the the vast majority of people being the rational one (the people not in the internet) will judge better (i am speaking generally).I thing that much like in the us..that matter will be forgotten in a matter of days 

 

Yeah, I hope it will get die down. A Marvel fan spotted this board 2 days ago at Shin Kong Place 新光天地

LD901bn.gif

They were holding out hope that SC might have passed the censorship and will eventually get released in the mainland (apparently Eternals is "dead", no confidence to tell what would happen to Spiderman NWH), and then this sh*t happen...

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4 minutes ago, Arian1010 said:

 

Yeah, I hope it will get die down. A Marvel fan spotted this board 2 days ago at Shin Kong Place 新光天地

LD901bn.gif

They were holding out hope that SC might have passed the censorship and will eventually get released in the mainland (apparently Eternals is "dead", no confidence to tell what would happen to Spiderman NWH), and then this sh*t happen...

its way too early for eternals or spiderman ...so i wouldnt stressed about it .Anyways where is this photo ? taken from ?

 

 

ps i really dont think that these comment will make a difference....

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19 minutes ago, exomassey said:

This is hilarious. Simu just can’t do anything right with Weibo lol. A paedo sympathiser? Really?  

 

I believe now Shang Chi probably won’t get a Chinese release but honestly, the movie never had a chance, there’s new issues everyday lol.
 


 

 

 

Seems at this point Simu is just getting in some quarters the treatment that Brie Larson got here. Just any chance for a character assassination will be taken no matter how tenuous. Nothing will be good enough, nothing will be acceptable, just an ideologically driven faction.

 

But at the same time, as with Larson, likely only to be a specialist niche noisy bunch of the Very Online not necessarily attached to the general public. It has become wrapped in an agenda not of its own making and not under its control. At this point it will be little skin off noses. I'm just sad for the Chinese MCU fans who have nothing to do with this who now don't get this, and seemingly other, movies.

 

I would say that I hope it provides a lesson to those who've been doing/falling for this sort of attack nonsense in the West to see how flagrant and dishonest it looks when another culture/online group is doing it...but I won't get my hopes up.

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2 hours ago, exomassey said:

This is hilarious. Simu just can’t do anything right with Weibo lol. A paedo sympathiser? Really?  

 

I believe now Shang Chi probably won’t get a Chinese release but honestly, the movie never had a chance, there’s new issues everyday lol.
 


 

 

I quit trying to understand those folks online once they went into conspiracy theories about how liking the wrong snacks was sinister orchestrated international plot to insult them or whatever. 

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18 hours ago, Arian1010 said:

 

Yeah, I hope it will get die down. A Marvel fan spotted this board 2 days ago at Shin Kong Place 新光天地

LD901bn.gif

They were holding out hope that SC might have passed the censorship and will eventually get released in the mainland (apparently Eternals is "dead", no confidence to tell what would happen to Spiderman NWH), and then this sh*t happen...


why wouldn’t they release spider-man?

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