Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings | Marvel Studios | 92% RT & 99% VA Score | ONLY IN THEATERS Sep 3 2021

[TheDude391]

Any word on reaction/reviews in Asian countries? Seen a lot of praise for the martial arts action and wuxia influences here but I’m curious how it’ll be received in places that are more familiar with those types of films.

[lorddemaxus]

A 7.7 with less than 100 reviews is fine, especially when it's inflated by two 5/5s from the same critic.

[grey ghost]

1 hour ago, Krissykins said:

91% with 80 reviews and a consensus:

 

CRITICS CONSENSUS

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings isn't entirely free of Marvel's familiar formula, but this exciting origin story expands the MCU in more ways than one. 

 

 

 

I would've preferred more praise in the description but maybe I'm getting greedy.

[MrPink]

I gotta be honest, who cares about the Critic Consensus blurb.

 

Wars are fought over the Certified Fresh label. 

[WrathOfHan]

5 minutes ago, MrPink said:

I gotta be honest, who cares about the Critic Consensus blurb.

 

Wars are fought over the Certified Fresh label. 

Annette

 

Edit: Also mother! and Covenant; let's bring back 2017 nostalgia  

Edited August 23, 2021 by WrathOfHan

[RRA]

6 minutes ago, MrPink said:

I gotta be honest, who cares about the Critic Consensus blurb.

 

Wars are fought over the Certified Fresh label. 

I still remember MOS being certified fresh for a coffee break lol 

 

(was WW84 ever certified with those initial reviews before it’s epic dive?)

[Lucas]

5 minutes ago, RRA said:

(was WW84 ever certified with those initial reviews before it’s epic dive?)

Indeed it was, took circa 250 reviews before WW84 lost it.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

47 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

7.70 average, impressive

Compared to other MCU:

 

Black Widow: 6.9

Far From Home: 7.4

Endgame: 8.2

Captain Marvel: 6.8

Antman and Wasp: 7.0

Infinity War: 7.6

Black Panther: 8.3

Ragnarok: 7.6

Homecoming: 7.7

Guardians vol 2: 7.2

Civil War: 7.7

Doctor Strange: 7.3

Antman: 6.9

Ultron: 6.8

Guardians: 7.8

Winter Soldier: 7.6

Dark World: 6.2

Iron Man 3: 7.0

Avengers: 8.0

First Avenger: 7.0

Thor: 6.7

Iron Man 2: 6.5

Hulk: 6.2

Iron Man: 7.7

 

Other superhero movies:

The Suicide Squad: 7.5

Snyder Cut: 6.7

Wonder Woman 1984: 6.0

Birds of Prey: 6.8

Joker: 7.3

Shazam: 7.3

Aquaman: 6.0

Wonder Woman: 7.7

Justice League: 5.3

Logan: 8.0

BVS: 5.0

Suicide Squad: 4.9

Man of Steel: 6.2

Dark Knight Rises: 8.0

Green Lantern: 4.70

Watchmen: 6.4

Dark Knight: 8.6

Batman Begins: 7.7

[Lucas]

Too early to compare average ratings. At this point The Suicide Squad was at an 8.0, and Black Widow was at a 7.2. 

[Legion Again]

21 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Compared to other MCU:

 

Black Widow: 6.9

Far From Home: 7.4

Endgame: 8.2

Captain Marvel: 6.8

Antman and Wasp: 7.0

Infinity War: 7.6

Black Panther: 8.3

Ragnarok: 7.6

Homecoming: 7.7

Guardians vol 2: 7.2

Civil War: 7.7

Doctor Strange: 7.3

Antman: 6.9

Ultron: 6.8

Guardians: 7.8

Winter Soldier: 7.6

Dark World: 6.2

Iron Man 3: 7.0

Avengers: 8.0

First Avenger: 7.0

Thor: 6.7

Iron Man 2: 6.5

Hulk: 6.2

Iron Man: 7.7

Huh, 8+ for A+ has a perfect batting average here

[Chicago]

25 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Compared to other MCU:

 

Black Widow: 6.9

Far From Home: 7.4

Endgame: 8.2

Captain Marvel: 6.8

Antman and Wasp: 7.0

Infinity War: 7.6

Black Panther: 8.3

Ragnarok: 7.6

Homecoming: 7.7

Guardians vol 2: 7.2

Civil War: 7.7

Doctor Strange: 7.3

Antman: 6.9

Ultron: 6.8

Guardians: 7.8

Winter Soldier: 7.6

Dark World: 6.2

Iron Man 3: 7.0

Avengers: 8.0

First Avenger: 7.0

Thor: 6.7

Iron Man 2: 6.5

Hulk: 6.2

Iron Man: 7.7

 

7.6 - 7.8 has the best movies so that bodes well

[ThomasNicole]

17 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Too early to compare average ratings. At this point The Suicide Squad was at an 8.0, and Black Widow was at a 7.2. 

TSS drop too hard tho, it loses 0.5 points after 100 reviews

 

BW for example was at 7.2 and finish with 7.0

[Lucas]

Just now, ThomasNicole said:

TSS drop too hard tho, it loses 0.5 points after 100 reviews

 

BW for example was at 7.2 and finish with 7.0

BW is at a 6.9, so a 0.3 drop.

A single 6/10 review added to Shang-Chi just brought it down to a 7.6, it can fluctuate far too much to use it for any comparisons.

[tonytr87]

On 8/18/2021 at 9:06 PM, imbruglia said:

there are lots of people loving 3rd act too.

seems like serious critic who wanted more grounded, less marvel vs comic book fan +general audience who wants entertainment.

 

you can want entertainment and still chafe at that 3rd act. You know what's not entertaining? Terrible CGI in a 200 mil movie. 

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

23 minutes ago, Lucas said:

Too early to compare average ratings. At this point The Suicide Squad was at an 8.0, and Black Widow was at a 7.2. 

Well, yes, but still a good start and will obviously finish mid/high-tier MCU. Probably like 7.5 average

[tonytr87]

Marvel keeps on getting away with bad effects work, so I'm going to keep harping on it. If you spend this much money, there's no excuse. And given the genre, it is important. 

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

And Metacritic:

Black Panther: 88

Endgame: 78

Iron Man: 79

Guardians: 76

Civil War: 75

Ragnarok: 74

Homecoming: 73

Dr Strange: 72

Shang-Chi/Ant-Man and the Wasp/Winter Soldier: 70

Far From Home/The Avengers: 69

Infinity War: 68

Black Widow/Guardians vol 2: 67

First Avenger: 66

Captain Marvel/AntMan: 64

Iron Man 3: 62

Hulk: 61

Thor/Iron Man 2: 57

Dark World: 54

 

Suicide Squad dropped quite a bit from 78 but Shang-Chi will still finish this range

[tonytr87]

On 8/18/2021 at 7:46 PM, Lokis Legion said:

Isn’t it generally understood that characters speaking English in an American movie are not necessarily speaking English in universe? And same thing for movies produced elsewhere, like a Japanese production Robin Hood they’ll just speak Japanese, but in-universe it’s understood to be English (though really old English which is practically a different language itself).

 

That only checks out in something like Valkyrie, where it's understood the entire movie is German converted to English. In something like Shang Chi, where there are obviously scenes in America where characters are speaking English...that excuse doesn't fly. It's just Marvel laziness per usual. 

[Legion Again]

3 minutes ago, tonytr87 said:

 

That only checks out in something like Valkyrie, where it's understood the entire movie is German converted to English. In something like Shang Chi, where there are obviously scenes in America where characters are speaking English...that excuse doesn't fly. It's just Marvel laziness per usual. 

Hmm, don’t think this checks out. Even in movies where multiple languages make sense in universe, I feel like it’s plenty common to just have it be the production language throughout. Laziness in a sense, sure, but also it’s just convenient for audiences.   
 

And evidently this has some scenes in Mandarin, though I doubt every single scene where it would make sense in universe will be subbed.

[Fox20]

39 minutes ago, tonytr87 said:

 

That only checks out in something like Valkyrie, where it's understood the entire movie is German converted to English. In something like Shang Chi, where there are obviously scenes in America where characters are speaking English...that excuse doesn't fly. It's just Marvel laziness per usual. 

It's so hilarious watching someone complain about something that it's not true in this movie without watching it.