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Nolan delivered again 🙏

upping my prediction to 45M OW 170M DOM total. 

 

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27 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

yeah seems like it has a ridiculous plot but strong spectacle. it reminds me of Aquaman which mean i'll probably like it.

 

 

Idk, reviews a reminding me more of Dunkirk.

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1 minute ago, lorddemaxus said:

Idk, reviews a reminding me more of Dunkirk.

Yeah but critics were euphoric over Dunkirk lol, I think it's the best reviewed over-100m budget film of the 2010s on MC outside of Gravity. This seems more Inception/Interstellar Nolan critically

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1 minute ago, lorddemaxus said:

Idk, reviews a reminding me more of Dunkirk.

Dunkirk wasn't at all "confusing" or had an "incomprehensible" plot. like some reviews are saying. I think the general audiences are going to like Tenet more than Dunkirk 

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Just now, TMP said:

Yeah but critics were euphoric over Dunkirk lol, I think it's the best reviewed over-100m budget film of the 2010s on MC outside of Gravity. This seems more Inception/Interstellar Nolan critically

Then it'll probably have better audience reception than Dunkirk.

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1 minute ago, Firepower said:

Then it'll probably have better audience reception than Dunkirk.

 

Critics definitely seemed to enjoy Dunkirk more than regular audiences, based on the box office legs. 

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Looks like Tenet may replace Interstellar to be my least fav Nolan movie. 

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14 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

Dunkirk wasn't at all "confusing" or had an "incomprehensible" plot. like some reviews are saying. I think the general audiences are going to like Tenet more than Dunkirk 

I think the problem a lot of critics are having is that it has a complex plot and the film doesn't give enough of a shit about the plot to try to make it comprehensible. Nolan seems more interested in the kind of set pieces he can create with the plot he's conceived rather than trying to untangle it all. Dunkirk got good reviews because it had a simple plot with a focus on the experience and spectacle while Tenet has a complex plot with a focus on the experience and spectacle. 

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12 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

Critics definitely seemed to enjoy Dunkirk more than regular audiences, based on the box office legs. 

I was surprised how well Dunkirk did domestically, without star power to boost it and centered about an historic event most people in America have never heard of.

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The problem usually (with Nolan) is the movie is very very complicated with its plotting and exposition - but that's kind of all they are while the characters take a backseat and the themes are left being very simplistic. They're not complex films, just told that way.

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37 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

Nolan delivered again 🙏

upping my prediction to 45M OW 170M DOM total. 

 

Just a little more to get to mine - c'mon, just go for the $200M+ DOM:)...

 

PS - I didn't need reviews, b/c my teen girls wanted to see this - and they have never asked to see a Nolan movie (but thanks to Covid, watched and loved Inception this summer), so I had inside intel:)...

 

Although to be fair, one will now watch any movie if I'll take her this fall:)...

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Kind of the reception I expected. A technical marvel but definitely an underlying air of "I'm over Nolan's shtick" from quite a few. Which is fair enough: for better or worse this does look like the most Nolan movie ever.

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31 minutes ago, Giesi said:

I was surprised how well Dunkirk did domestically, without star power to boost it and centered about an historic event most people in America have never heard of.

 

The $50M opening was extremely impressive. The legs were not that great though. 

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3 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

The $50M opening was extremely impressive. The legs were not that great though. 

 

Eh, a 3.8x multiplier is quite good and pretty inline with his usual multiplier. Sure a 4x multi and 200m would have been cool though. I would agree critics enjoyed it more than audiences, but I think the legs aren't too far off the mark.

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10 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

BBC News has a 4/5 review as a headline. Some nice marketing given it's one of the most visited sites in the UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53862695

 

Interestingly, Metacritic instead used this review for BBC

 

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200821-tenet-film-review-christopher-nolan

 

(I'm not shouting conspiracy though this reviewer appears to be counted for both BBC and the Wrap)

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12 minutes ago, MrPink said:

 

Eh, a 3.8x multiplier is quite good and pretty inline with his usual multiplier. Sure a 4x multi and 200m would have been cool though. I would agree critics enjoyed it more than audiences, but I think the legs aren't too far off the mark.

 

4.65 for Inception with far more divisive critical reception. I just think it’s clear the general audience did not love Dunkirk like the critics did. 

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19 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

The $50M opening was extremely impressive. The legs were not that great though. 

 

If we look at all the movies opening between 41M to 69.9M in the 2010s and we remove December release, the ranking multiplier wise look like that:

 

A Star Is Born   5.02
How to Train Your Dragon   4.98
Gravity   4.91
Inception   4.66
The Twilight Saga: Eclipse   4.64
Despicable Me   4.46
Moana   4.39
The Croods   4.29
Bohemian Rhapsody   4.24
The Amazing Spider-Man   4.23
The Martian   4.21
Coco   4.13
Tangled   4.12
Ted   4.02
Dr. Seuss' the Grinch   4.00
Big Hero 6   3.96
Interstellar   3.96
Wreck-It Ralph   3.86
Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation   3.80
A Quiet Place   3.75
The Lego Movie   3.73
Dunkirk   3.72
Mission: Impossible - Fallout   3.60
Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted   3.59
How to Train Your Dragon 2   3.58
Brave   3.58
Ralph Breaks the Internet   3.58
Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation   3.51
Hotel Transylvania 2   3.50
Hotel Transylvania   3.49
The Boss Baby   3.49
Maleficent   3.48
Kung Fu Panda 3   3.48
Once Upon a Time... In Hollywood   3.47
Kung Fu Panda 2   3.47
Ice Age: Continental Drift   3.46
The Secret Life of Pets 2   3.41
Home   3.40
Mad Max: Fury Road   3.38
Ocean's 8   3.37
22 Jump Street   3.36
The Lego Batman Movie   3.32
Trolls   3.30
Ready Player One   3.30
The Conjuring   3.28
Men in Black 3   3.28
Bad Boys for Life   3.27
Ride Along   3.25
Megamind   3.23
Rise of the Planet of the Apes   3.23
Grown Ups 2   3.22
The Meg   3.20
The Karate Kid   3.17
Ant-Man   3.15
Shutter Island   3.12
Neighbors   3.06
World War Z   3.05
The Vow   3.03
John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum   3.01
Cinderella   2.96
The Peanuts Movie   2.94
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World   2.92
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles   2.92
Transformers: The Last Knight   2.91
Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw   2.90
Cars 2   2.89
The Great Gatsby   2.89
Lucy   2.89
Cars 3   2.85
San Andreas   2.84
Taken 2   2.82
Ghostbusters   2.79
Divergent   2.76
Snow White and the Huntsman   2.76
Thor   2.75
Kong: Skull Island   2.75
Jason Bourne   2.74
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales   2.74
Captain America: The First Avenger   2.72
The Hangover Part III   2.69
Star Trek Beyond   2.68
Straight Outta Compton   2.68
Clash of the Titans   2.67
Pitch Perfect 2   2.66
X-Men: First Class   2.66
Pokémon Detective Pikachu   2.65
Shazam!   2.62
War for the Planet of the Apes   2.61
The Fault in Our Stars   2.60
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald   2.57
Sonic the Hedgehog   2.52
Independence Day: Resurgence   2.51
The Wolverine   2.50
Dumbo   2.50
The Divergent Series: Insurgent   2.49
Prometheus   2.48
Fifty Shades Darker   2.46
300: Rise of an Empire   2.37
X-Men: Apocalypse   2.36
Jackass 3D   2.33
Noah   2.31
Godzilla: King of the Monsters   2.31
Green Lantern   2.19
The Nun   2.18
Paranormal Activity 3   1.98
Valentine's Day   1.96

 

If we would remove sequel or material giant fan base affair it would not look as good obviously, but still on the solid side.

 

I think there is a mix of audience not being as enthusiastic but also that the OW was just giant for that type of movie, 1917 being the best comparable that we can think of, did a 4.3x with a under 40M start, that more the trajectory Dunkirk would have had "normally" to reach such big high (released more with the award season versus the summer and so on).

 

 

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