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Memorial Weekend Thread: 4-Day Actuals - Aladdin $116.81M | John Wick 3 $30.97M | Avengers Endgame $22.06M | Pokemon DP $17.25M

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2 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

It used to be rare for a mainstream rotten movie to be well liked by audiences, but in the past year or two it is becoming increasingly more common.

Was it would have to calculate because it was quite common

 

Transformer 2-3-4, Twilight, Mamma Mia, National Treasure franchise, the fockers franchise, Madea, many of the Fast&Furious, BadBoys 2, Miss Congeniality, Sex and the City, How the grinch stole christmas, Blind Side, Chipmunks, 300, Armagageddon, What Women want, Pretty Woman, Robin Hood, The Proposal (well a lot of Bullock and Will Smith filmography), almost all of Sandler filmography, The Mummy, Runaway bride, We're the millers, Daddy's Home, Taken franchise, The Great Gatsby,  The Santa Clause,  a lot of rom-coms, Patch Adams has a 22% RT score, made over 200m in 1998 and an over 5.0 multiplier and a A cinemascore, Dumb and Dumber has a 41 metascore.

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7 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Was it would have to calculate because it was quite common

 

Transformer 2-3-4, Twilight, Mamma Mia, National Treasure franchise, the fockers franchise, Madea, many of the Fast&Furious, BadBoys 2, Miss Congeniality, Sex and the City, How the grinch stole christmas, Blind Side, Chipmunks, 300, Armagageddon, What Women want, Pretty Woman, Robin Hood, The Proposal (well a lot of Bullock and Will Smith filmography), almost all of Sandler filmography, The Mummy, Runaway bride, We're the millers, Daddy's Home, Taken franchise, The Great Gatsby,  The Santa Clause,  a lot of rom-coms, Patch Adams has a 22% RT score, made over 200m in 1998 and an over 5.0 multiplier and a A cinemascore, Dumb and Dumber has a 41 metascore.

A lot of the movies you listed were either from pre-RT days or didn't have great legs. 

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40 minutes ago, LonePirate said:

So basically the types of movies with these RT Critics >> RT User scores are:

  • Art House films that went wide
  • Polarizing horror films
  • Franchise films that pissed off people
  • Bait and switch films

Seems like these films can be easily identified in the future. Booksmart certainly seems to fit that first category, even if it was marketed poorly.

not sure what was that artsy in Booksmart outside of the direction (the underwater pool scenes and the tracking shots were amazing) but I felt the story was easily accessible and relatable for general audience and the comedic elements were pretty straight forward.

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29 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

A lot of the movies you listed were either from pre-RT days or didn't have great legs. 

Not sure if RT existence has any relevance here and not many in there have bad legs for what they were.

 

Are you saying that before critics had no power for mainstream affair, for a little while when RT became more popular they had a big one and about 2 year's ago they stopped and turned back to irrelevant ?

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17 minutes ago, RealLyre said:

not sure what was that artsy in Booksmart outside of the direction (the underwater pool scenes and the tracking shots were amazing) but I felt the story was easily accessible and relatable for general audience and the comedic elements were pretty straight forward.

Sorry, I used Art House as a catch all for Art House, independent and niche films. Booksmart certainly fits in there. If it had rolled out gradually starting with NY & LA, the general audience response might have differed due to people opting not to see it as WOM (both good and bad) spread.

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So AE falls behind IW on the weekend for the first time. Had the bigger Friday jump but then had smaller jumps on Sat and Sun and a bigger drop on Monday. Likely to fall a little further behind IW during the week as it has not played as well on weekdays as IW has. Also, with all the big openers the next few weeks it is likely to lose screens faster than IW did last year.

 

Impressive numbers for Aladdin. Biggest ever non-sequel MD weekend. Just missed passing F&F6. It's Sat/Sun/Mon Numbers are really good. 16% Monday drop is fantastic - better than any film in the Top 20 last MD Monday. If WOM truly is good (have to wait about 7-10 days to see that for sure) I could see it having a $44M second weekend (-52%).

 

 

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4 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:

 

Lol, damage control! There was a whole Twitter Moment about Booksmart's weekend box office, more pushback from the "what a travesty for film" narrative than I figured, not just "What did you expect against Aladdin"/"comedies don't open like used to" comments, but also people arguing that you can't shame audiences into wanting to see a movie, plus Black Twitter annoyed that no one wants to make teen comedies about Black girls ever, and wondering where were all the celeb endorsements for Fast Color.

2 hours ago, LonePirate said:

ETA: The Favourite has a 26 point difference (93 vs. 67) and it topped out at 1,500+ screens. It’s also a female driven comedy.

So not shocked by The Favourite alienating audiences, I liked it overall but Lanthimos has some weird sensibilities, you could tell which audience members were shocked they weren't getting something out of Masterpiece Theatre. 

1 hour ago, LonePirate said:

So basically the types of movies with these RT Critics >> RT User scores are:

  • Art House films that went wide
  • Polarizing horror films
  • Franchise films that pissed off people
  • Bait and switch films

Seems like these films can be easily identified in the future. Booksmart certainly seems to fit that first category, even if it was marketed poorly.

Pretty much, though the new verification system should slow the downvoting campaigns and their effects on audience scores.

 

My feeling on Rotten Tomatoes: it does the job it advertises, people just forget it's an aggregator of multitudes of different opinions and not actually a collective that gets together and votes in one room.

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