Tower Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 36 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Is Israel cinemas open fully or down somewhat? Everything has been closed since March... Still no date for opening them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScareLol Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 WONDER WOMAN 1984 PRE-SALES FOR FRIDAY (DAY OF RELEASE) - SPAIN CINESA MANOTERAS CINESA EQUINOCCIO CINESA MORALEJA CINESA LORANCA TOTAL WW84 169/1802 132/511 86/354 146/446 533/3113 (17.12%) TENET 354/1868 140/611 81/403 152/594 727/3476 (20.91%) BIRDS OF PREY 68/4153 80/1229 50/765 183/1167 381/7314 (5.20%) Tenet is the biggest comparison here thanks to being released in COVID times. WW84 is doing similar numbers in 3 of the 4 theaters I've tracking to TENET and, in the bigger one, WW84 is underperforming. BoP comparison favors WW84 because the former flopped in Spain. Let's extrapolate those numbers to OW adding New Mutants: TENET OW BIRDS OF PREY OW NEW MUTANTS OW WW84 OW 1,10M 1,75M 1,69M With those numbers and the times we are living in, I'm being cautious and I predict 1.2M OW for WW84 with all Christmas coming ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder89 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, ScareLol said: WONDER WOMAN 1984 PRE-SALES FOR FRIDAY (DAY OF RELEASE) - SPAIN CINESA MANOTERAS CINESA EQUINOCCIO CINESA MORALEJA CINESA LORANCA TOTAL WW84 169/1802 132/511 86/354 146/446 533/3113 (17.12%) TENET 354/1868 140/611 81/403 152/594 727/3476 (20.91%) BIRDS OF PREY 68/4153 80/1229 50/765 183/1167 381/7314 (5.20%) Tenet is the biggest comparison here thanks to being released in COVID times. WW84 is doing similar numbers in 3 of the 4 theaters I've tracking to TENET and, in the bigger one, WW84 is underperforming. BoP comparison favors WW84 because the former flopped in Spain. Let's extrapolate those numbers to OW adding New Mutants: TENET OW BIRDS OF PREY OW NEW MUTANTS OW WW84 OW 1,10M 1,75M 1,69M With those numbers and the times we are living in, I'm being cautious and I predict 1.2M OW for WW84 with all Christmas coming ahead. In summer the Covid situation was better or worst in Spain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScareLol Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Wonder89 said: In summer the Covid situation was better or worst in Spain? November had a lot more cases and similar deaths than in Summer. Our curve is starting to go up again (our peak was 26k cases on 30th October, we are at 12.192 today). People are going out a lot, it seems like COVID doesn't matter that much for a lot of people and Madrid center for example is always full. Edited December 18, 2020 by ScareLol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some of the early opening day <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/boxoffice?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#boxoffice</a> numbers for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WW84?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WW84</a><br><br>Taiwan - $560k (-59% <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WonderWoman?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WonderWoman</a>)<br>Indonesia - $250k Approx (Wednesday)<br>Vietnam - $225k<br>Portugal - $20k (Wed)<br><br>China - $475k (Midnight) <a href="https://t.co/4gOQPNjprX">pic.twitter.com/4gOQPNjprX</a></p>— charlie. (@meJat32) <a href="https://twitter.com/meJat32/status/1339807058149793793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Edited December 18, 2020 by charlie Jatinder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WonderWoman1984?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WonderWoman1984</a> grossed $11mn Approx on Friday internationally (exc. Latin America), taking its total to $14.5mn Approx (exc. LA). China was the top play with $6.6mn followed by $1.2mn Taiwan, $0.55mn Japan and $0.5mn in Thailand.<br><br>Should go for $41-42mn weekend (exc. LA). <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WW84?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WW84</a> <a href="https://t.co/92HPWDcNea">pic.twitter.com/92HPWDcNea</a></p>— charlie. (@meJat32) <a href="https://twitter.com/meJat32/status/1340186599175294977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Oh that’s more than I thought. I wonder if it can hit $100m worldwide over the next few months in play with the late December, January and February openings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Oh that’s more than I thought. I wonder if it can hit $100m worldwide over the next few months in play with the late December, January and February openings. With a 40m OW without LA and as long as europe does 10m or more this weekend it will easily go over $100m WW. Europe will have atleast 3 - 4 multi from OW asian markets should do around 2 multi (some under, some over problaby). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Doubt it hits 20M China+Japan this weekend. Overall OS probably more in the ballpark of 35 is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, WandaLegion said: Doubt it hits 20M China+Japan this weekend. Overall OS probably more in the ballpark of 35 is my guess. 27mn is done by Saturday excluding LATAM. 40mn is the floor IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WonderWoman1984?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WonderWoman1984</a> grossed $12.75mn Approx internationally (exc. LATAM) on Saturday, taking its total to $26.75mn Approx (exc. LATAM).<br><br>China remain the top play with $14mn followed by Taiwan $2.1mn, Thailand $1.5mn & Spain $1.3mn Approx.<br><br>Weekend now looks like $35mn (exc. LATAM). <a href="https://t.co/Gr4JlrLpRA">pic.twitter.com/Gr4JlrLpRA</a></p>— charlie. (@meJat32) <a href="https://twitter.com/meJat32/status/1340525644485038080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WonderWoman1984?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WonderWoman1984</a> grossed an estimated $35mn internationally (exc. LATAM) in its opening weekend. LATAM numbers aren't available but are expected to be $2mn Approx or lower.<br><br>Underperformed everywhere, South Asia, Spain & Middle East relatively okay. <a href="https://t.co/S00HBlSniE">pic.twitter.com/S00HBlSniE</a></p>— charlie. (@meJat32) <a href="https://twitter.com/meJat32/status/1340653572254539779?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said: The movie is gonna be online in every torrent site in 5 days. Can't say I am surprised by these numbers. People know they will be able to see it for free. Just like Mulan, I expect it to be one of the most illegally downloaded titles of the last 4 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 5:36 PM, pepsa said: With a 40m OW without LA and as long as europe does 10m or more this weekend it will easily go over $100m WW. Europe will have atleast 3 - 4 multi from OW asian markets should do around 2 multi (some under, some over problaby). Not sure if about legs here noting that piracy will be rampant starting from next week. Even here in Singapore where it is solely released in theaters; I had hard time getting friends to go watch it in theaters as they know the movie will be out in HD next week.... It feels like Mulan all over again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Not surprised by these numbers considering what’s going on in the world and the obvious part about it being online in a week. Hard to measure “underperformance” when there’s no like for like comparable, IMO. Edited December 20, 2020 by Krissykins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) Nearly all of numbers are from Asia, with Europe being barely $3mn. So don't expect big multiple. China: 19 OW - 27 Closing Rest Asia: 13 OW - 26 Closing Europe: 3 OW - 7-8 Closing Total: 35 OW - 60 Closing Next weekend Korea (4-5 OW), ANZ (4+ OW), India (1 OW) opening. They should close at 20 ish. Then Russia should do 5-10. That's it. 90-100 ish before European markets open and excluding Latin America. $150mn WW will take some doing, though should be able to do. Edited December 20, 2020 by charlie Jatinder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Anything over $100m WW, I can accept considering what’s going on and the online deals, HBO Max, early PVOD (UK 13th Jan etc). The $19.7m non China is quite surprising to be honest, to me anyway, in a good way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Wonder Woman 1984 grossed $38.5mn internationally in first weekend. China - $18.8mn Taiwan - $3.6mn Thailand - $2mn Brazil - $1.7mn Japan - $1.6mn Mexico - $1.6mn Singapore - $1.3mn U.K. - $1.2mn Spain - $1.1mn U.A.E. - $1mn Saudi Arabia - $1mn Vietnam - $1mn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 How the heck did it do $1.2m in the UK? There’s under 200 cinemas open and we’re at 40% capacity. Sadly most closed yesterday and the rest on Christmas Eve now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/13/2020 at 1:47 PM, WandaLegion said: Why make 350M in theatrical rev + healthy home and PVOD when instead you could make almost no home&PVOD, like 100M theatrical rev, and make a play for subs on your single market streaming platform Bolded was just my trademark optimism coming in to play I see. This “covid Xmas” release was really something. I knew it was gonna be rough the second they announced it, but this is something else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
