The Admission Count Thread.

[XXR vs XXR]

3 minutes ago, setna said:

 

I also would love it, and i think all the members of this forum, but i think this is almost impossible, Titanic run i think is one in a lifetime....

Yea it’s all but impossible at this point. The world is too drastically different from 25 years ago. I think the best we can hope for going forward is maybe a 15-20% increase over the worldwide record (at any given time).

[LPLC]

25 minutes ago, setna said:

 

I think the highest average with difference is in South Korea. I can´t remember where i saw the data about worldwwide box office and admissions per country and SK is like 200 million admissions in 2019, what gives more than 4 times per year per inhabitant. 

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[charlie Jatinder]

7 hours ago, setna said:

I also would love it, and i think all the members of this forum, but i think this is almost impossible, Titanic run i think is one in a lifetime....

The change of era is responsible for that. You had months of exclusive theatrical windows, so any film one had to watch, only way was cinemas for months. With that reduced to .5-3 months today, it is probably not likely to have run like that.

 

Not a perfect comparison, but with all the growth in China, Asia and other underdeveloped parts of world in 90s, Jurassic World admissions were around same as Jurassic Park, so Titanic probably will get similar admissions as well as it did 90s.  

 

JP did 198M without China in 1993. JW did 176M without China in 2015 and 214M with China.

 

Titanic did 340M without China in 1997. 

[Barnack]

9 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

The change of era is responsible for that. You had months of exclusive theatrical windows, so any film one had to watch, only way was cinemas for months. With that reduced to .5-3 months today, it is probably not likely to have run like that.

 

I am not sure if it is a rumor that circulated in all media market or if I am misremembering, I remember something along the line far into release that maybe they would push the release of home media a ridiculous amount of time, many years I think, almost the  mental equivalent of never.

 

11 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Not a perfect comparison, but with all the growth in China, Asia and other underdeveloped parts of world in 90s, Jurassic World admissions were around same as Jurassic Park, so Titanic probably will get similar admissions as well as it did 90s.  

That not a crazy way to think about this for a movie that would have been super popular in China in the today world, for the market grow to be able to compensate the others factor.

 

An other way to see it, Titanic was number one almost everywhere (again I think my market famously had a local movie Les Boys competing with and rumored to be above but that hard to believe), that for sure can simply happen and looking what a number 1 virtually everywhere (while breaking all time record in some, absolute dollar wise like dom) in today market would look like could be an other indication.

[setna]

3 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

The change of era is responsible for that. You had months of exclusive theatrical windows, so any film one had to watch, only way was cinemas for months. With that reduced to .5-3 months today, it is probably not likely to have run like that.

 

Not a perfect comparison, but with all the growth in China, Asia and other underdeveloped parts of world in 90s, Jurassic World admissions were around same as Jurassic Park, so Titanic probably will get similar admissions as well as it did 90s.  

 

JP did 198M without China in 1993. JW did 176M without China in 2015 and 214M with China.

 

Titanic did 340M without China in 1997. 

 

 

I´m agree with you almost everything, but even now when the plans of studios and theatres are showing a movie less time than 20 years ago, if a phenomenom appears, and people want to see it again and again and even more than in the first weekend, i don´t think they won´t refuse to get that money and the movie will stay in theatres until audience wants.  Titanic earned more money in its 9th weekend than in the 1st, and if something like this will happen now (that for sure it´s very unlikely)  this movie will stay in theatres much more time than the average from these years.

These kind of phenomenoms rarely occurs, but they brake every plan you can had for it...

[Sophia Jane]

We can't just see the datas

Titanic is the global culture event,everybody talk about the movie and everybody watch it,when the movie released,It's not like a normal movie,is something unique in the history and worldwide phenomenon.

A movie could be popular，but can't like a culture storm like Titanic,we will really hard to see the movie that all People ,all age ,all country talk about it again.

Edited February 2, 2022 by Bruce

[Sophia Jane]

On 2/1/2022 at 11:50 AM, charlie Jatinder said:

The change of era is responsible for that. You had months of exclusive theatrical windows, so any film one had to watch, only way was cinemas for months. With that reduced to .5-3 months today, it is probably not likely to have run like that.

 

Not a perfect comparison, but with all the growth in China, Asia and other underdeveloped parts of world in 90s, Jurassic World admissions were around same as Jurassic Park, so Titanic probably will get similar admissions as well as it did 90s.  

 

JP did 198M without China in 1993. JW did 176M without China in 2015 and 214M with China.

 

Titanic did 340M without China in 1997. 

JW not a same level as JP,this is not competition

Jurassic Park is the benchmark and Milestone for the Hollywood movie,like Avatar,"the first industrial revolution" of the movie,That's why Jurassic  Park break the Worldwide box office record,but Jurassic World has nothing special,is just a normal Hollywood movie.

It's just like comparing George Washington to Barack Obama.

You like to compare different level movie ,like compare The Hobbit to TLOR ,JW and JP,they are sequels,but not means their popularity is same level.

Edited February 2, 2022 by Bruce

[charlie Jatinder]

Spider-man: No Way Home - 248M

Edited May 26, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[setna]

On 5/26/2022 at 7:32 AM, charlie Jatinder said:

Spider-man: No Way Home - 248M

 

65 dollars a ticket in Lebanon!!!!!????

[charlie Jatinder]

4 hours ago, setna said:

65 dollars a ticket in Lebanon!!!!!????

On 1/27/2022 at 8:37 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

As for Lebanon, yeah that $61 ATP. Even I was shocked to see that, thinking this probably includes Israel or any other country but turns out this is in fact true. Well this is case of hyperinflation when currency of country has gone to value less, tickets selling at LBP120,000 for IMAX with ER fixed at $1=LBP1500 but the black market value is around $1=LBP30,000. 

 

And Sony is like, naah we will use official rate for $5M+ number. 

Edited May 27, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

Even though Admission tracking is best of the world when considering inflation and ER impact, but many asked about ER adjustment, so I thought of doing this.

 

For market having inflation and exchange rate moving on par, I have kept the original grosses like SEA, LATAM.

 

Thanks to Google Sheets, the forex adjustment will remain real-time.

Edited September 27, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[LPLC]

@charlie Jatinder and others, on this website AEG is said to have had approximately 430.4 millions admissions worldwide (which would be slightly above Titanic). Do these figures seems right to you ?

 

https://www.saltypopcorn.co.uk/movies/avengers-endgame

[XXR vs XXR]

9 minutes ago, LPLC said:

@charlie Jatinder and others, on this website AEG is said to have had approximately 430.4 millions admissions worldwide (which would be slightly above Titanic). Do these figures seems right to you ?

 

https://www.saltypopcorn.co.uk/movies/avengers-endgame

Definitely using outdated ticket pricing. The US number is about 10 million too high, for instance.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Wolverpool XXR

[interiorgatordecorator]

Whats TG maverick at?

[XXR vs XXR]

28 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

Whats TG maverick at?

Domestically, about 60M. 

[enzo1988]

This is a very interesting topic. Forgive my lousy English. A few years ago I made a kind of top most viewed movies in history (in movie theaters). Because films from before the 1980s don't have very accurate overseas box office data available, I did a count of all the countries (with old admissions data) that I could. And that they had some consistency with their figures.

 

The numbers are based on the number of admissions in their initial release (without adding any re-release) in the United States. And in the rest of the world (according to the countries that had data). The insidekino listing is very good and useful.

 

The most attended films worldwide (without re-releases and worldwide population comparison added) were:

 

1: Ben-hur (1959) 6,73 % (207,99 millions)

2: The ten commandments 6,63 % (201,23 millions)

3: Gone with the wind (1939) 5,52 % (133,78 millions)

4: Sound of music (1965) 5,44 % (185,47 millions)

5: Titanic (1997) 5,07 % (303,84 millions)

6: Dr. Zhivago (1965) 4,52 % (157,52 millions)

7: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982) 4,20 % (196,96 millions)

8: Jaws (1975) 4,19 % (174,30 millions)

9: Avengers: Endgame (2019) 4,16 % (321,17 millions)

10: The bridge on the river Kwai (1957) 4,05 % (118,65 millions)

11: Star Wars (1977) 3,96 % (170,78 millions)

12: Avatar (2009) 3,96 % (275,18 millions)

 

This top represented 50% of the average of the final top.

Edited November 28, 2022 by enzo1988

[enzo1988]

The next top was the number of admissions (which you can find from all possible countries) extrapolated to the 2019 population of the different countries. Note that older titles do not have hypothetical country additions. Which gives it more merit.

1: The ten commandments (1956) 350,96 millions

2: Ben-hur (1959) 342,56 millions

3: Titanic (1997) 327,55 millions

4: Sound of music (1965) 298,17 millions

5: Avengers: Endgame (2019) 295,5 millions

6: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982) 266,52 millions

7: Avatar (2009) 266,08 millions

8: Gone with the wind (1939) 264,75 millions

9: Jaws (1975) 252,48 millions

10: Star Wars (1977) 242,95 millions

11: Dr. Zhivago (1965) 233,25 millions

12: Avengers: Infinity War (2018) 225,82 millions

This top represented 33.33% of the average of the final top.

[enzo1988]

And the last top is the average success (taking into account the population comparison) of all the countries in which it was released that have data. Because, for example, there are many Chinese films that have received many admissions but have not done anything outside of this country.

1: Titanic (1997) 7,25

2: Gone with the wind (1939) 7,04

3: Ben-Hur (1959) 6,80

4: The ten commandments (1956) 6,69

5: Dr. Zhivago (1965) 5,71

6: Avatar (2009) 5,68

7: Jaws (1975) 5,47

8: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982) 5,39

9: The best years of our lives (1946) 5,35

10: The bridge on the river Kwai (1957) 5,12

11: Avengers: Endgame (2019) 5,05

12: Thunderball (1965) 5,01

 

 

This top represented 16.66% on average for the final top.

[enzo1988]

And so with the average of these 3 tops there was a list like this.

 

1: Ben-Hur (1959)

2: The ten commandments (1956)

3: Titanic (1997)

4: Gone with the wind (1939)

5: Sound of music (1965)

6: Avengers: Endgame (2019)

7: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982)

8: Dr. Zhivago (1965)

9: Jaws (1975) 

10: Avatar (2009)

11: Star Wars (1977)

12: The bridge on the river Kwai (1957)

 

And obviously I valued many other films with this method...

 

13: Avengers: Infinity War (2018)

14: The best years of our lives (1946)

15: The force awakens (2015)

16: Thunderball (1965)

17: The godfather (1972)

18: Goldfinger (1964)

19: The lion king (2019)

20: Jurassic Park (1993)

21: The exorcist (1973)

22: Spider-Man: No way home (2021) 

23: The greatest show on earth (1952)

24: Grease (1978)

25: The longest day (1962)

26: The sting (1973)

27: From here to eternity (1953)

28: South pacific (1958)

29: The towering inferno (1974)

30: Jurassic World (2015)

31: Harry Potter 1 (2001)

32: Around the world in 80 days (1956)

33: The lion king (1994)

34: Mary Poppins (1964)

35: The guns of navarone (1961)

36: My fair lady (1964)

37: Furious 7 (2015) 

38: For whom the bells tolls (1943)

39: Frozen II (2019)

40: The phantom menace (1999)

41: The robe (1953)

42: The return of the king (2003)

43: The bells of Saint Mary (1945)

44: Avengers: The age of Ultron (2015)

45: The avengers (2012)

46: The lord of the rings (2001)

47: Cleopatra (1963)

48: Furious 8 (2017)

49: The empire strikes back (1980)

50: Giant (1956)

 

I know it's not the perfect or definitive top but I think it might interest you.

Edited November 29, 2022 by enzo1988

[Nero]

4 hours ago, enzo1988 said:

And so with the average of these 3 tops there was a list like this.

 

1: Ben-Hur (1959)

2: The ten commandments (1956)

3: Titanic (1997)

4: Gone with the wind (1939)

5: Sound of music (1965)

6: Avengers: Endgame (2019)

7: E.T. the extra-terrestrial (1982)

8: Dr. Zhivago (1965)

9: Jaws (1975) 

10: Avatar (2009)

11: Star Wars (1977)

12: The bridge on the river Kwai (1957)

 

And obviously I valued many other films with this method...

 

13: Avengers: Endgame (2018)

14: The best years of our lives (1946)

15: The force awakens (2015)

16: Thunderball (1965)

17: The godfather (1972)

18: Goldfinger (1964)

19: The lion king (2019)

20: Jurassic Park (1993)

21: The exorcist (1973)

22: Spider-Man: No way home (2021) 

23: The greatest show on earth (1952)

24: Grease (1978)

25: The longest day (1962)

26: The sting (1973)

27: From here to eternity (1953)

28: South pacific (1958)

29: The towering inferno (1974)

30: Jurassic World (2015)

31: Harry Potter 1 (2001)

32: Around the world in 80 days (1956)

33: The lion king (1994)

34: Mary Poppins (1964)

35: The guns of navarone (1961)

36: My fair lady (1964)

37: Furious 7 (2015) 

38: For whom the bells tolls (1943)

39: Frozen II (2019)

40: The phantom menace (1999)

41: The robe (1953)

42: The return of the king (2003)

43: The bells of Saint Mary (1945)

44: Avengers: The age of Ultron (2015)

45: The avengers (2012)

46: The lord of the rings (2001)

47: Cleopatra (1963)

48: Furious 8 (2017)

49: The empire strikes back (1980)

50: Giant (1956)

 

I know it's not the perfect or definitive top but I think it might interest you.

You might want to edit 2018 Endgame to infinity war