XO21 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, TalismanRing said: Scoop from here - Richard Rushfield a Hollywood insider https://theankler.com/bullets-over-the-box-office-spidey-spidey-spidey-ho/ Never heard of this guy..hard to believe THR, Deadline or Variety wouldn't report something like this...plus this option makes absolutely no sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, john2000 said: i would advice you to not believe everything you read, we will see how much truth is lying with all this REPORTS REPORTEDLY - does not = believe it be an actual fact. If it hits $1B we'll never know if this exact clause existed or id Rothman would have exercised it unless Feige or Rothman mentions it. But there were milestone clauses in the contract, numbers the film had to reach for the deal to continue and bonuses to Disney if it reached certain numbers. This was reported in The Trades back in 2015. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, john2000 said: 1,1-1,2 billion finish O/U Captain Marvel? Aquaman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, XO21 said: Never heard of this guy..hard to believe THR, Deadline or Variety wouldn't report something like this...plus this option makes absolutely no sense. http://www.richardrushfield.com/about/ Milestones make perfect sense in a contract like this. $1B though is a pretty damn huge one especially coming off a series that barely broke $700m on their latest and was in a domestic and WW downward trend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 lol doubting FFH's billion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: REPORTEDLY - does not = believe it be an actual fact. If it hits $1B we'll never know if this exact clause existed or id Rothman would have exercised it unless Feige or Rothman mentions it. But there were milestone clauses in the contract, numbers the film had to reach for the deal to continue and bonuses to Disney if it reached certain numbers. This was reported in The Trades back in 2015. i edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XO21 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: http://www.richardrushfield.com/about/ Milestones make perfect sense in a contract like this. $1B though is a pretty damn huge one especially coming off a series that barely broke $700m on their latest and was in a domestic and WW downward trend. I wasn't doubting the milestone clause so I totally agree with you with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, john2000 said: their goal is to make sure that every movie is good, not that every movie makes 1 billion I'm a big Marvel Studios fan and am happy they make quality films...but trust me, they would rather every movie make a billion, good or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sue Denim said: I'm a big Marvel Studios fan and am happy they make quality films...but trust me, they would rather every movie make a billion, good or not. again i said what their goal is, not what they would prefer Edited July 10, 2019 by john2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, XO21 said: Never heard of this guy..hard to believe THR, Deadline or Variety wouldn't report something like this...plus this option makes absolutely no sense. That article is news to me. What was reported months ago was that the deal with Sony and Disney over Spider-Man expired after this movie. There was speculation that Sony may not renew the deal. This article makes it sound like if certain milestones are reached, then the deal automatically renews for at least a little longer. That’s the first time that I am hearing about that clause, but it is certainly believable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) I realize this is kinda random as hell, but I was thinking about where EG would fit in first run admissions and I just wondered how come no one ever brings up the Sound of Music as having the biggest first run admissions over something like Titanic? From what BOM shows, it really only had one release. Or was it more of a GWTW sort of thing where it kept getting re-released/expanded for years? Edited July 10, 2019 by MovieMan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) The Sound of Music had re-releases. I believe there was one in the early 70s. They’re just not split out by Box Office Mojo. So we don’t know how much it originally grossed, and BOM may be overinflating the total based on assuming too much of the gross was in the original run - Jaws and The Exorcist and others may have this problem too. I bet Titanic probably still has the edge over it in first-run admissions, though it also has 30 years of population growth and being in the middle of a theatrical market boom on its side. (Also, I’ve read that between the initial roadshow engagements and the subsequent general release, The Sound of Music’s “first run” lasted for four years. Somewhere I read Fox did not withdraw all prints until 1969. That’s insane.) Edited July 10, 2019 by TServo2049 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: I realize this is kinda random as hell, but I was thinking about where EG would fit in first run admissions and I just wondered how come no one ever brings up the Sound of Music as having the biggest first run admissions over something like Titanic? From what BOM shows, it really only had one release. Or was it more of a GWTW sort of thing where it kept getting re-released/expanded for years? BoM release data is not accurate. Movies across world had re-releases/staggered released till 80s, anything before that, having no re-releases ain't true. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Walt Disney said: That article is news to me. What was reported months ago was that the deal with Sony and Disney over Spider-Man expired after this movie. There was speculation that Sony may not renew the deal. This article makes it sound like if certain milestones are reached, then the deal automatically renews for at least a little longer. That’s the first time that I am hearing about that clause, but it is certainly believable. There have been conflicting reports but many have reported that the deal is for 6 movies. Holland himself said so. IF true, then there is one more Spiderman movie after this. This article also makes clear that the deal is for 6 movies. Afterall a trilogy make more sense for Marvel rather than just making 2 solo movies. And Marvel would not have given the movie the ending that they gave it if this was to be the last movie. Regardless we will know soon, probably at SDCC or D23 where hopefully Marvel unveils their slate for the next few years. Edited July 10, 2019 by ZeeSoh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) I imagine after the wild successes of everything Spiderman...another deal gets negotiated for another 6 movies - 3 Disney, 3 Sony - with Tom Holland moving into "junior RDJ" type salary deals... Edited July 10, 2019 by TwoMisfits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said: BoM release data is not accurate. Movies across world had re-releases/staggered released till 80s, anything before that, having no re-releases ain't true. Thanks, that's what I figured. I wish there was some way to know true first run admissions for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, TServo2049 said: The Sound of Music had re-releases. I believe there was one in the early 70s. They’re just not split out by Box Office Mojo. So we don’t know how much it originally grossed, and BOM may be overinflating the total based on assuming too much of the gross was in the original run - Jaws and The Exorcist and others may have this problem too. I bet Titanic probably still has the edge over it in first-run admissions, though it also has 30 years of population growth and being in the middle of a theatrical market boom on its side. (Also, I’ve read that between the initial roadshow engagements and the subsequent general release, The Sound of Music’s “first run” lasted for four years. Somewhere I read Fox did not withdraw all prints until 1969. That’s insane.) Woah, that's insane for Sound of Music. I didn't know they still did that stuff in the 60's. Sounds very much like a GWTW situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Fuck re-releases. All Times Lists should keep only original grosses. No shame in that. Different eras made different money. 100M was 2 billie once upon a time. make lists per era or whatever if putting them together isn't fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, TalismanRing said: Well... Rothman. It's reportedly only an option if SM:FFH fails to make $1b WW. That's not happening unless Sony pulls it out of theaters next week. Do Sony Japan still favour Playstation more heavily than they do Sony Pictures? I wonder how much leverage Marvel have over the deal given the Spiderman PS4 exclusivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Valonqar said: Fuck re-releases. All Times Lists should keep only original grosses. No shame in that. Different eras made different money. 100M was 2 billie once upon a time. make lists per era or whatever if putting them together isn't fair. Movies used to make a good percentage of their money through re-releases. Cinema was a place where one could go to see old movies consistently. Home Video Rental and TV helped changed that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
