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Babylon - Damien Chazelle; Margot Robbie; Brad Pitt | Paramount | December 23, 2022 nationwide

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Time to move this thread into the main section now that it has a opening date?

Interesting to see how this turns out; period films tend to be  hard sell.

ANyway, I can see possiblities with a story set during the coming of sound to movies, as, many have said a serious "Singing In The Rain".

It has moved I see.

It is the first film in a while, I think, where they actually completed principal photography before announcing a release date.

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Never heard of this movie till now. Saw the titel and was extremely hyped to see a historical epic set in something like 1800 BC about the rise, fall or even heyday of Babylon.

 

Instead, its some Hollywood period drama.

 

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On 3/28/2022 at 9:05 AM, Brainbug said:

Never heard of this movie till now. Saw the titel and was extremely hyped to see a historical epic set in something like 1800 BC about the rise, fall or even heyday of Babylon.

 

Instead, its some Hollywood period drama.

 

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Hell, when I read that it was  drame about Hollywood in the silent erea, with that title I though it would be about the making of D.W. Griffith's "Intolerance"  instead of  trying to be a serious "Singing In The Rain".

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26 minutes ago, Pinacolada said:

Serious singin in the rain? This movie will be very funny. It's most similar to Wolf of Wall Street in terms of tone and content

 

24 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

This is going to be a borderline NC-17 graphic film about the sex and drug debauchery of the silent era. 
 

So happy Paramount took a gamble on this. They can afford to. Because it truly might be the last of its kind lol

Is this confirmed somewhere or is this just speculation?

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This reads a lot like Boogie Nights, and the parallels between the two film's historical contexts are fairly obvious (with the end of the Golden Age of Porn being substituted for the late silent and early sound era), but without saying too much I'd suggest that Babylon's is a far more cynical and perhaps even iconoclastic script. Certainly the Anger reference is more than coincidental (a lot more), though there isn't too much in the way of cribbing actual stories from Anger's book (though Clara Bow's, Erich Von Stroheim's, and a few others are present). On that note, the above description of Babylon as a big-budget NC-17 film is entirely appropriate. Though I'm sure it will be cut down before filming (both for content and because the script is almost 200 pages long), the script as I've read it is the most explicit thing I've ever seen from a big American studio (as in, Wolf Of Wall Street levels of swearing and quite a few graphic sex scenes, two of which are among the most bizarre I've ever read).

A word on casting: The film has a lot of parts, with fictional characters intermingled with historical figures, but there are three main roles: Emma Stone as Clara Bow, Brad Pitt as Jack Conrad, a fictional established movie star based on John Gilbert (they haven't announced what role Pitt is playing yet, but the descriptions of Conrad's character makes it unambiguous), and the as-yet uncast role of a fictional young Hispanic man, Manny Torres, who becomes a studio fixer and gets dragged into the wild personal lives of the other leads.

 

https://www.criterionforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=16269&sid=dea18a4faa6558a4daa858626f8c2366&start=25

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1 hour ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

This reads a lot like Boogie Nights, and the parallels between the two film's historical contexts are fairly obvious (with the end of the Golden Age of Porn being substituted for the late silent and early sound era), but without saying too much I'd suggest that Babylon's is a far more cynical and perhaps even iconoclastic script. Certainly the Anger reference is more than coincidental (a lot more), though there isn't too much in the way of cribbing actual stories from Anger's book (though Clara Bow's, Erich Von Stroheim's, and a few others are present). On that note, the above description of Babylon as a big-budget NC-17 film is entirely appropriate. Though I'm sure it will be cut down before filming (both for content and because the script is almost 200 pages long), the script as I've read it is the most explicit thing I've ever seen from a big American studio (as in, Wolf Of Wall Street levels of swearing and quite a few graphic sex scenes, two of which are among the most bizarre I've ever read).

A word on casting: The film has a lot of parts, with fictional characters intermingled with historical figures, but there are three main roles: Emma Stone as Clara Bow, Brad Pitt as Jack Conrad, a fictional established movie star based on John Gilbert (they haven't announced what role Pitt is playing yet, but the descriptions of Conrad's character makes it unambiguous), and the as-yet uncast role of a fictional young Hispanic man, Manny Torres, who becomes a studio fixer and gets dragged into the wild personal lives of the other leads.

 

https://www.criterionforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=16269&sid=dea18a4faa6558a4daa858626f8c2366&start=25

So some of the charecters are real (Bow) and for other they are dong the "based on a actual charecter but we are changing the name so we can take some real liberties with what happened" as with the Jack Conrab/John Gilbert charecter. For those who don't now their Hollywood history, John GIlbert was a huge silent star whose career was ruined because he could not make the transistion to sound. There is some debate as to whether his voice was really that bad, but no doubt Sound ruined his career,probably the biggest silent star to fall into oblivion with the coming of sound.

And everything I have heard is that the film is pretty serious.

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