JohnnyGossamer Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, terrestrial said: https://www.the-numbers.com/news/240230830-Weekend-Wrap-Up-Spider-Man-Repeats-on-Top-but-2019-Takes-Another-Hit Still think this gets sorted started with this weekend. Then, still, Scary Stories, Once Upon, Hobbs, Doctor Sleep, It, Frozen, Jumanji, Star Wars... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, terrestrial said: https://www.the-numbers.com/news/240230830-Weekend-Wrap-Up-Spider-Man-Repeats-on-Top-but-2019-Takes-Another-Hit Its really only due to the crappy 1st quarter we had. Missing a BP sized film in February was always going to hurt and none of the films released until Captail Marvel did anything significant. Summer is fine overall, some ups and some downs but we have made considerable gain on the deficit from 2018 since Endgame came out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, JohnnyGossamer said: Still think this gets sorted started with this weekend. Then, still, Scary Stories, Once Upon, Hobbs, Doctor Sleep, It, Frozen, Jumanji, Star Wars... I hope too for a better result at the end of the year, but less sure about of those can lessen the gap. Big difference might be December, SW9 'should' be above Mary Poppins Returns 😉 (but last Dec had Aquaman, Spider-Verse... also) Later into 2018 we had Venom, A Star is Born, Bohemian Rhapsody, Mission Impossible Fallout, Grinch, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Ant-Man 2 got just released... plus some under $170m titles. Fingers crossed 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinRed Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, terrestrial said: https://www.the-numbers.com/news/240230830-Weekend-Wrap-Up-Spider-Man-Repeats-on-Top-but-2019-Takes-Another-Hit TLK will help this over the next few weeks. There is nothing even remotely comparable in 2018 over the next 6-8 weeks. The end of the year will be stronger too. Will it be enough though, we'll see in December. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said: Still think this gets sorted started with this weekend. Then, still, Scary Stories, Once Upon, Hobbs, Doctor Sleep, It, Frozen, Jumanji, Star Wars... and the biggest wildcard Cats. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiQ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, terrestrial said: https://www.the-numbers.com/news/240230830-Weekend-Wrap-Up-Spider-Man-Repeats-on-Top-but-2019-Takes-Another-Hit But-but 42% market increase and whatnot! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, narniadis said: Its really only due to the crappy 1st quarter we had. Missing a BP sized film in February was always going to hurt and none of the films released until Captail Marvel did anything significant. Summer is fine overall, some ups and some downs but we have made considerable gain on the deficit from 2018 since Endgame came out. we are still under 2016 also (even if only slightly) BP was a big reason for 2018, but earlier years had quite some big earners YTD too. E.g. 2017 had WW, GotG2, Beauty & Beast, Fate of the Furious, Logan, Despicable Me 3, Get Out, Lego, Boss Baby, Pirates, Kong,... and just a week of SM Homecoming From 2017 to 2019 there is a slight increase in average ticket price, and 0.1% in BO. A few big earners can counterbalance 2 big earners too. Average ticket prices increased up to 2018, till then no $ plus means a decrease in admissions, and that's my main concern, but decreased for now in 2019 - admission count a bit better than the $ might indicate at a first glance. As costs for the cinemas increase, pressure/demands per distributors too, I'd prefer to see considerable increases, not a stalemate or worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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terrestrial Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, JimiQ said: But-but 42% market increase and whatnot! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JimiQ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, terrestrial said: ???? Inside joke, some people are saying that market has globally increased more than exchange rates and 3D surcharge/ratio had decreased between two certain movies, one from 2009 and one from this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Rocketman won't need a big fudge to cross 100M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Valonqar said: Rocketman won't need a big fudge to cross 100M. It's not crossing 100M, IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, stripe said: It's not crossing 100M, IMHO Ok, then give it a big fudge. deserves it more than AWIT (which didn't deserve it at all even for TV rights) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narniadis Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, terrestrial said: we are still under 2016 also (even if only slightly) BP was a big reason for 2018, but earlier years had quite some big earners YTD too. E.g. 2017 had WW, GotG2, Beauty & Beast, Fate of the Furious, Logan, Despicable Me 3, Get Out, Lego, Boss Baby, Pirates, Kong,... and just a week of SM Homecoming From 2017 to 2019 there is a slight increase in average ticket price, and 0.1% in BO. A few big earners can counterbalance 2 big earners too. Average ticket prices increased up to 2018, till then no $ plus means a decrease in admissions, and that's my main concern, but decreased for now in 2019 - admission count a bit better than the $ might indicate at a first glance. As costs for the cinemas increase, pressure/demands per distributors too, I'd prefer to see considerable increases, not a stalemate or worse. And its still a Q1 problem for the most part. Both 2016 and 2018 benefitted from Crazy holidays the previous December that had films playing out crazily in January. Most here dont give enough credit, but when the Christmas films do huge it really uplifts January in particular. Besides Aquaman we had nothing in January this year compared to Star Wars or Jumanji driving business, even the Oscar films that were big were fall releases that were still around. Big films over the whole year are always better but it was terribly lopsided in 2016 and 2018 which shows in our year over year comparisons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Harris Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Charlie Jatinder said: The Endgame numbers are assuming the weekend numbers won't be adjusted down because I still have weekend at $1.75mn. Going by that, Monday would be $275k Mojo shows a final weekend number for EG ($2,104,276). Do such final domestic numbers get corrected very often? Once those final down-to-the-dollar numbers show up, I assume the bean-counters are done and that's the number we're getting, period...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent Magnet Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, JimiQ said: between two certain movies, one from 2009 and one from this year 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Transformers: revenge of the fallen and Aladdin i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, narniadis said: Most here dont give enough credit, but when the Christmas films do huge it really uplifts January in particular. I am very well aware of that 😉 The spillover effect is good to see with those charts, as winter season runs till very early March https://www.boxofficemojo.com/seasonal/?chart=byseason&season=Winter&view=releasedate there is to see how much out of whack BP's result was for 2018's winter season, way higher than normal winter season sum (release date) the other seasons per tabs Season to date often seems to get missed (I am aware about you'll know it, but our few posts here might be of interest for silent readers / new to the theme members too) https://www.boxofficemojo.com/seasonal/?chart=std&view=releasedate Not disagreeing to the most what got said here, only another POV (me wishing for way higher increasing admissions every year instead of in some years decreasing and in others stalemate or....) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidwested Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, sfran43 said: Pretty good i would say. Its over same monday from the first Annabelle and a bit lower than Annabelle Creations monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
