Thor: Love and Thunder | July 8, 2022 | Directed by Oscar Winner Taika Waititi | Ninth most profitable movie of 2022

[SpiderByte]

10 hours ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

So it passed the bare minimum even more expensive tickets? 

Why are we pretending this is a failure? 700 million WW without China?

[lorddemaxus]

12 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Why are we pretending this is a failure? 700 million WW without China?

700 mil WW is a flop.

[John Marston]

14 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Why are we pretending this is a failure? 700 million WW without China?

 

 

 

because it made less than pretty much all expectations,  Will barely break even, and it will help dilute the Marvel brand

[interiorgatordecorator]

do we know anything about how this movie did in 3d?

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

30 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Why are we pretending this is a failure? 700 million WW without China?

When I'm in a "Defend the MCU" competition and my opponent is SpiderByte

[HouseOfTheSun]

41 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

700 mil WW is a flop.

Imagine being good enough for this to actually be true. 

[lorddemaxus]

4 hours ago, HouseOfTheSun said:

Imagine being good enough for this to actually be true. 

What? What is good enough? The point is this wasn't good enough.

Edited August 8, 2022 by lorddemaxus

[SpiderByte]

8 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:

700 mil WW is a flop.

You people are fuckin delusional. Under one billion is not a flop.

[YM!]

There’s like no middle ground here anymore lol. I’ll bold my points to clarify. Thor: Love and Thunder’s likely $750m total is not a flop, around the break even territory and for a fourth film in a franchise it’s solid, BUT it can also be considered disappointing considering Thor’s risen popularity from 2017 to now, as well as it just barely being over the unadjusted total of Rangarok minus China and still under the adjusted total. It’s like The Amazing Spider-Man 2’s box office results and in addition this to be the third out of six Phase 4 to receive mixed receptions for the GA. Again, this doesn’t mean MCU is doomed, this is a horrible result or Thor is a doomed franchise, they’ll likely retool as they always do but it’s an underwhelming one. Under 1B obviously isn’t a flop, but ~750M is mediocre for Thor 4.

 

There’s such a thing as being two things.

Edited August 8, 2022 by YM!

[Rebeccas]

If Eternals is getting a sequel (an actual flop), I think if it was actually important to the future MCU, this would be getting one too but seeing as more of the announcements from comic con feels pretty separate from this, I don’t think a Thor 5 would’ve happened anytime soon anyways. 
 

Like for sure it’s an underperformance but ultimately one that feels not all that impactful to the upcoming slate. 

[Legion Again]

Flip would be under 657M or so. But needed at least 800 to avoid being a disappointment.

[Rebeccas]

2 minutes ago, Legion By Night said:

Flip would be under 657M or so. But needed at least 800 to avoid being a disappointment.

Think it would be be totally fine if the budget wasn’t so inconceivably high. Still don’t underhand that decision. Sure Ragnarok was popular but no clue why they gave this an avengers level budget. 

[Eric Duncan]

Moderation

 

Yeah we're done with the "Is 700M a hit" discourse. It's clear we won't change each other's minds, so there's no point in continuing. But @SpiderByte we don't need you to insult others and call them delusional. You can argue against others without these kinds of attacks

[Factcheck]

1 hour ago, Rebeccas said:

Think it would be be totally fine if the budget wasn’t so inconceivably high. Still don’t underhand that decision. Sure Ragnarok was popular but no clue why they gave this an avengers level budget. 

They budgeted it Avengers level because they wanted to give the film an Avengers level feel but I think Taika Waititi has messed something up. This THR article back in 2020 said Thor 4 will have Avengers level feel.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvels-black-panther-sequel-shoot-to-begin-in-july-exclusive-4093770/

Edited August 8, 2022 by Factcheck

[Rebeccas]

47 minutes ago, Factcheck said:

They budgeted it Avengers level because they wanted to give the film an Avengers level feel but I think Taika Waititi has messed something up. This THR article back in 2020 said Thor 4 will have Avengers level feel.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/marvels-black-panther-sequel-shoot-to-begin-in-july-exclusive-4093770/

So weird cause this ended up feeling extremely standalone and less of a team-up than even Ragnarok which at least had Hulk. Maybe the guardians were meant to have larger roles, like a proper Asguardians of the Galaxy movie but that seems so far from what we got in the film where they just left after 5 minutes and were never heard of again. 

[lorddemaxus]

I don't think $700 mil is actually a flop btw. I was just joking because the guy is just making shit up about people calling it a flop.

Edited August 8, 2022 by lorddemaxus

[YM!]

10 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

I don't think $700 mil is actually a flop btw. I was just joking because the guy is just making shit up about people calling it a flop.

It’s cool, you were very obvious. I think most of not everyone who thought the results weren’t good, do not by any means this was a flop. Some people just choose not to read between the lines.

Edited August 8, 2022 by YM!

[Rebeccas]

Also apparently Hercules is probably getting his own movie? Feel like Thor would have to show up in it but based on this and his quote about how he was surprised to see the "Thor will be back" tagline, it does seem like Waititi's done with the franchise. 

 

 

 

 

[Factcheck]

42 minutes ago, Rebeccas said:

Also apparently Hercules is probably getting his own movie? Feel like Thor would have to show up in it but based on this and his quote about how he was surprised to see the "Thor will be back" tagline, it does seem like Waititi's done with the franchise. 

 

 

 

 

Hercules: the Rise of the Gods is one of several leaked upcoming MCU projects

[WittyUsername]

Neither this nor MoM felt like the event films that we were led to believe they’d be.