druv10 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Do you also compare it to every other movies as well? I don't think it's a masterpiece or anything but FF7 seems to have more positive WOM than this because people seem to be less critical about it. Every movie should be judge by the same standard. But that's how things always play out. Pixar had the same happened to them and now Marvel. You've to up your game for the sequel or there will be a backlash, remember nothing ever is in a vacuum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 But that's how things always play out. Pixar had the same happened to them and now Marvel. You've to up your game for the sequel or there will be a backlash, remember nothing ever is in a vacuum. And that's what they did, for many people AoU is better than TA1, so that's very difficult to understand what the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldawg626 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) And that's what they did, for many people AoU is better than TA1, so that's very difficult to understand what the problem is. I'm sorry but...you know this how? Edited April 25, 2015 by Bulldawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm sorry but...you know this how? Because that's what I see almost everywhere. It's enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynosure Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Well on allociné the first has an average of 4/5 from the press (25 reviews) and the second 2.7 (19 reviews) so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernus Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 As far as as comparison goes, its obviously foolish to be expecting this to be as good as or having as great a story as, lets say, The Godfather, but isn't it fair to be comparing this with TDK? Or TA1 or Watchmen or last year's comic book stuff, the genre toppers? This is a CBM and 'will' be compared to them, sequel or not. As Roger Ebert used to say - you can't rate a movie, or anything for that matter, without comparing it to others of the same genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 There is sufficient empirical evidence that this is having way lower acceptance than 1st one. And that is not just bcos its weaker than the 1st. There are enough things mentioned in the review thread and its not fair to discuss this in other threads as there could be folks who have not seen the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Well on allociné the first has an average of 4/5 from the press (25 reviews) and the second 2.7 (19 reviews) so... They also have TDW higher at 2.8, IM2 at 3.1, TWS & IM 3 at 3.2, IM at 3.4 with GOTG at 3.8 so I kind of doubt their collective sanity but then I'm one of the few not crazy about GOTG so I doubt collective sanity in general. To each their own 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 They also have TDW higher at 2.8, IM2 at 3.1, TWS & IM 3 at 3.2, IM at 3.4 with GOTG at 3.8 so I kind of doubt their collective sanity but then I'm one of the few not crazy about GOTG so I doubt collective sanity in general. To each their own There is no doubt GOTG had way better reception that AOU as well. It does not matter what individual opinion is. It finished with 91% and 7.7/10 rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) There is no doubt GOTG had way better reception that AOU as well. It does not matter what individual opinion is. It finished with 91% and 7.7/10 rating. I don't dispute it's high reception among audiences and critics but I'm still bemused by it which is my point. Also in terms of Allocine the disparity in critical avg for it between IM and TWS as opposed to say RT is rather large and they have IM2 and TWS about rated the same with TDW above AOU. Critical reception is not consistent not only between critics but between countries etc. For AOU in the UK most reviews from major sources have been 4/5 (Times, Guardian, Telegraph, Empire, Radio Times etc) It's all also skewed by sample size - 20 critics vs 200. Edited April 25, 2015 by TalismanRing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theultimatebiu Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 No, that isn't really fair. By that logic the next TF movie could get 50% RT score and be considered a masterpiece..... How is it not fair? Its a movie not a oppressed community....calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htall90 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I don't dispute it's high reception among audiences and critics but I'm still bemused by it which is my point. Also in terms of Allocine the disparity in critical avg for it between IM and TWS as opposed to say RT is rather large and they have IM2 and TWS about rated the same with TDW above AOU. Critical reception is not consistent not only between critics but between countries etc. For AOU in the UK most reviews from major sources have been 4/5 (Times, Guardian, Telegraph, Empire, Radio Times etc) It's all also skewed by sample size - 20 critics vs 200. All the big media sources have given it good review's so is fine there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KATCH-2D2 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 How is it not fair? Its a movie not a oppressed community....calm down. No need to tell me to calm down, I wasn't angry. I only pointed out the obvious flaw in people's judging standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meitantei Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Well, its human tendency to make comparisons(and find flaws), at the end of the day its your opinion and not someone else's who has seen more movies or is a professional( = critics), yes some may like it and others may not, but one should not let them influence his/her opinion, here in my country, TASM2 was pretty much liked, people didn't think it was terrible, so its your brain that makes you go "Hulk didn't do the smashing properly like the last one", so as fellow box-officers hope for the best for this movie. :) Edited April 25, 2015 by Meitantei 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I think my friends are all of the opinion that AOU was better than the first. I'm still digesting. May need a second screening. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meitantei Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I think my friends are all of the opinion that AOU was better than the first. I'm still digesting. May need a second screening. That's some positive response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsyu Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) Do we have any news on how the weekend is shaping up for Ultron? Edited April 26, 2015 by Rsyu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Do we have any news on how the weekend is shaping up for Ultron? God from down under needs to help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernus Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Well, its human tendency to make comparisons(and find flaws), at the end of the day its your opinion and not someone else's who has seen more movies or is a professional( = critics), yes some may like it and others may not, but one should not let them influence his/her opinion, here in my country, TASM2 was pretty much liked, people didn't think it was terrible, so its your brain that makes you go "Hulk didn't do the smashing properly like the last one", so as fellow box-officers hope for the best for this movie. :) Sorry but i couldn't understand anything after the "don't let others opinions influence yours". Can you please explain more clearly what you were trying to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipJ2001 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 we had a HUGE day on Avengers yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
