Krissykins Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 hours ago, MadGoose said: One thing to keep in mind is that TSoD just can't open as high as CoG did even pre pandemic. Why not? Sonic opened 5% higher than the last one and that was juuuust pre pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Why not? Sonic opened 5% higher than the last one and that was juuuust pre pandemic. Yeah, we're pretty much back to pre-pandemic levels for the big movies now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnokesLegs Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 hours ago, MadGoose said: One thing to keep in mind is that TSoD just can't open as high as CoG did even pre pandemic. As long as the film does 500 million + (I can see that, take out Russia, China mostly, and then account for realistic pandemic setting), that's a win I'd think. Franchise films have largely been unaffected by the pandemic since Bond came out last October. The Harry Potter series is arguably one of the biggest in the UK, so if Fantastic Beasts drops from its predecessor, it won’t have anything to do with the pandemic, and everything to do with diminishing returns after two middlingly received prior entries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Roark Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 So it looks like NWH won’t be able to top NTTD. Is the UK the only market where Spidey is not the #1 film of 2021? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr Roark said: So it looks like NWH won’t be able to top NTTD. Is the UK the only market where Spidey is not the #1 film of 2021? Wasn’t anywhere close to the top in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermanLego Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr Roark said: So it looks like NWH won’t be able to top NTTD. Is the UK the only market where Spidey is not the #1 film of 2021? I'm sure spidey is the second most popular superhero in the UK so not bad. Wished it could of past it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildphantom Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) It’s incredible how much the Beasts franchise has disintegrated into being effectively just another Turtles sequel to audiences. Take it or leave it. whilst I think Harry Potter itself is still as popular as ever, general audiences are really not that bothered about rushing out to see Beasts 3. They don’t really watch the first two on repeat at all. They know this is coming out and are fine to catch up with it down the road. That’s what happens when you make an ambivalent instalment with no real story people are excited to see conclude, and no characters they really care about. I mean, I’ll be there this weekend. I love the wizarding world and regardless of what I thought of Grindelwald, I’m there just for the craft - these films look great and are so well made. But other than the true hardcore I feel like walk-ups are no more likely to pick it over Sonic. I hope I’m wrong and Dumbledore does great, but it doesn’t feel like it at all. I feel zero anticipation in the zeitgeist for it whatsoever. You’ve got a real problem when a franchise so associated with kids doesn’t appeal to them. Edited April 6, 2022 by wildphantom 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadGoose Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 17 hours ago, Krissykins said: Why not? Sonic opened 5% higher than the last one and that was juuuust pre pandemic. The films making more than 600 million in pandemic times are super rare. I have no doubt The Batman and most of the big films releasing now (and especially earlier in the pandemic) would make more in regular times. And let's not even talk about China which is going to be dead for a while with the zero covid policy. That alone means remove 30 million+ probably from the CoG gross, remove Russia, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 7 hours ago, SupermanLego said: I'm sure spidey is the second most popular superhero in the UK so not bad. Wished it could of past it. who’s the first? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, ZeeSoh said: who’s the first? James Bond // 007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermanLego Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: who’s the first? Batman I thought. Bond is on a whole new level compared to both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbopemi Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Mr Roark said: So it looks like NWH won’t be able to top NTTD. Is the UK the only market where Spidey is not the #1 film of 2021? Apart from Japan, I think Germany and some Nordic countries where Bond was also top. Then China obviously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, Issac Newton said: James Bond // 007 26 minutes ago, SupermanLego said: Batman I thought. Bond is on a whole new level compared to both of them. Bond is not a SH though. As for Spidey and Batman, the Raimi movies outgrossed Batman begins but then TDK established Batman as the biggest SH and I would say it remained that way till recently. But The Batman 2022 is unlikely to out gross FFH and then there is NWH which is a special case. I'd say for now its a toss. But anyways lets not get into this subjective debate, better stick to UK BO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermanLego Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: Bond is not a SH though. As for Spidey and Batman, the Raimi movies outgrossed Batman begins but then TDK established Batman as the biggest SH and I would say it remained that way till recently. But The Batman 2022 is unlikely to out gross FFH and then there is NWH which is a special case. I'd say for now its a toss. But anyways lets not get into this subjective debate, better stick to UK BO The Batman has already outgrossed FFH in the UK. It should do 40M+ its at 38M now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, SupermanLego said: The Batman has already outgrossed FFH in the UK. It should do 40M+ its at 38M now. I was taking numbers from Mojo and that had TB at 43m and FFH at 50. Different conversion rates perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermanLego Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, ZeeSoh said: I was taking numbers from Mojo and that had TB at 43m and FFH at 50. Different conversion rates perhaps In pounds the Batman is at 38M while FFH is at 37.3. Mojo hasn't updated, in dollars TB is at 50+M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 43 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: Bond is not a SH though I took it at wrong direction. 🥲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 6 hours ago, MadGoose said: The films making more than 600 million in pandemic times are super rare. I have no doubt The Batman and most of the big films releasing now (and especially earlier in the pandemic) would make more in regular times. And let's not even talk about China which is going to be dead for a while with the zero covid policy. That alone means remove 30 million+ probably from the CoG gross, remove Russia, etc. Oh yes, sorry I was talking about in the UK. If Sonic 2 increased, so can Fantastic Beasts (market condition wise). 5 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: I was taking numbers from Mojo and that had TB at 43m and FFH at 50. Different conversion rates perhaps Always stick with local currency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermanLego Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Oh yes, sorry I was talking about in the UK. If Sonic 2 increased, so can Fantastic Beasts (market condition wise). Always stick with local currency. Is there a breakdown of top 20 UK SH movies in pounds I can access ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Oh yes, sorry I was talking about in the UK. If Sonic 2 increased, so can Fantastic Beasts (market condition wise). Always stick with local currency. That would be ideal but easier said than done. I don't know of any website like Mojo that gives grosses in local currency for UK. Is there any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...