PhilipJ2001 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Forget the official exchange rate, UK/US equivalents are always about 10x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 41 minutes ago, pepsa said: Don't want to ruin the fun but 40M pound = 50M USD and Uk is only 6 times smaller then Dom so that would translate to 300M DOM not 400M USD. So it's a bit behind the domistic run, witch is totaly fine cause UK has much beter legs. Sorry should explain better. Going off the rule of thumb that the USA market is roughly 10X bigger than the UK market. Not to do with exchange rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, JCS said: Sorry should explain better. Going off the rule of thumb that the USA market is roughly 10X bigger than the UK market. Not to do with exchange rates. Isn't uk something like 1.8B? and us 11B? so thats roughly 6 times or maybe 7 times if it's 1.6B. Edited March 27, 2017 by pepsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezzo Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, pepsa said: Isn't uk something like 1.8B? and us 11B? so thats roughly 6 times. The rule is that a film will usually do 10x as much in the US, in US$, as it will in the UK in UK£. So a $250m US blockbuster would on average be expected to take £25m here. Edited March 27, 2017 by Wezzo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Wezzo said: The rule is that a film will usually 10x as much in the US, in US$, as it will in the UK in UK£. So a $250m US blockbuster would on average be expected to take £25m here. Didn't TFA do 120M pound, it's hard to believe a movie would do 1200M dollar DOM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, pepsa said: Didn't TFA do 120M pound, it's hard to believe a movie would do 1200M dollar DOM. It's not an accurate measure, but it tends to work for us to see when a film over or underperformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said: It's not an accurate measure, but it tends to work for us to see when a film over or underperformed. Ow k, good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Quote Disney’s live-action remake scores third-biggest second weekend of all time with $15.5m (£12.3m). Further distributor results to come… UK TOP FIVE Ranking Film/Distributor Weekend gross Running total 1 Beauty And The Beast (Disney) $15.5m (£12.3m) $50.1m (£39.85m) 2 Power Rangers (Lionsgate) $2m (£1.57m) $2m (£1.57m) 3 Get Out (Universal) $1.72m (£1.36m) $6.1m (£4.86m) 4 Kong: Skull Island (WB) $1.42m (£1.13m) $16.6m (£13.23m) 5 Logan (Fox) $957,000 (£761,662) $27.5m (£21.91m) (Note - Dollar conversions are based on today’s rates) DISNEY After securing the fifth-biggest opening-week ever with $34.6m (£27.5m), Beauty And The Beast kept waltzing as the UK’s number one film. Disney’s live-action remake fell only 38% from its record-breaking opening as it scored the third-biggest second weekend of all time with $15.5m (£12.3m), behind only Skyfall’s $20.2m (£16.11m) and Spectre’s $16.5m (£13.15m). And it achieved that feat despite the sunshine. Beauty And The Beast is now up to a magical $50.1m (£39.85m) after only ten days in play and is already the highest-grossing release of 2017, topping La La Land. Given how it’s gone so far, it’s going to take something special to top it. The film’s achievements are even more remarkable given that there has yet to be a school holiday during its run. The upcoming Easter holidays will come in time to give it another boost. Also for Disney, Moana has hit the £20m mark in its 17th week of release, a result that is more than nine times its opening take. LIONSGATE Battling the weather and Beauty And The Beast, Power Rangers charted second on its UK debut. Lionsgate’s reboot fought to a decent $2m (£1.57m) from its 478 sites for a site average of $4,138 (£3,293), the second highest of the week behind Disney’s chart-topping mega hit. It’s already director Dean Israelite’s best-ever UK performer, ahead of Project Almanac. UNIVERSAL Get Out followed up its strong opening with a respectable drop of 37% on its way to a $1.72m (£1.36m) second weekend as it remained in third. Universal’s critically acclaimed horror has amassed $6.1m (£4.86m) after ten days in play and will hope to continue to prosper as the sole major horror outing in the otherwise-crowded market at the moment. Also for Universal, Sing suffered a major drop with a $37,000 (£29,236) ninth weekend for $35.6m (£28.32m) to date. WARNER BROS Kong: Skull Island fell 58% as it dropped to fourth with a $1.42m (£1.13m) third weekend. Warner Bros’ King Kong reboot is now up to a solid $16.6m (£13.23m) and will still hope to hit £15m, despite Beauty And The Beast’s current domination of the UK box office. Also for Warner Bros, CHiPs posted a feeble UK bow of $256,000 (£203,690) from its 299 sites, marking a site average of only $856 (£681), and won’t last long at the box office. The Lego Batman Movie fell a hefty 78% on its way to a $143,000 (£114,000) seventh weekend for a healthy $33.6m (£26.74m) to date. FOX Logan fell 57% with a non-final $957,000 (£761,662) fourth weekend as it rounded off this week’s top five. Fox’s latest X-Men outing is now up to a strong $27.5m (£21.91m), making it the second-highest-grossing film of the series, behind X-Men: Days Of Future Past’s $34.1m (£27.1m). Also for Fox, Viceroy’s House added $134,000 (£106,944) for $4.5m (£3.57m) to date, while Bollywood title Phillauri recorded a UK debut of $118,000 (£93,621) from its 45 sites. Hidden Figures has accumulated $7.5m (£5.95m) after six weeks in play. STUDIOCANAL The Lost City Of Z was likely affected by the weather as it started its UK run. Studiocanal’s adaptation journeyed to a non-final $338,000 (£268,941) from its 282 sites, marking director James Gray’s second best UK debut behind We Own The Night’s $555,000 (£441,416) from 264 sites. Its strong reviews should boost its midweek audience and it will hope to post a sturdy hold this coming weekend. ALTITUDE Moonlight has crossed the £4m mark in its sixth week of release as Altitude’s Oscar winner took an extra $76,000 (£60,324) from its 100 sites for $5.1m (£4.06m) to date. CURZON ARTIFICIAL EYE From its 45 sites, Curzon Artificial Eye’s The Salesman grossed a non-final $45,000 (£35,807) for $207,000 (£164,559) to date. SODA PICTURES Submitted as South Korea’s Oscar entry, Soda Pictures’ Age Of Shadows uncovered a non-final $17,000 (£13,523) from its 23 sites, including $10,000 (£7.987) in previews, on its UK debut. UPCOMING RELEASES This week sees saturation releases for Sony’s Smurfs: The Lost Village, Paramount’s Ghost In The Shell (opens March 30) and Studiocanal’s Free Fire. Curzon Artificial Eye’s Graduation, Signature Entertainment’s The Void and Lionsgate’s The Autopsy Of Jane Doe are among the films receiving a limited release. As expected, another big increase from actuals for BatB. Amazing second weekend, especially given the good weather. I can't see it finishing below £75m. It should pass £50m comfortably by the end of this weekend, and then it has 2 weeks of holidays. Pretty bad weekend for everything else, apart from Get Out. And Moana for hitting £20m milestone. Edited March 27, 2017 by Heretic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Smurfs must have done poorly in previews if Sony didn't report it. Ghost in the Shell I imagine £2-3m for the four day opening. Boss Baby I suspect will do decently and maybe take top spot from Beauty and the Beast when it's officially released on 7th April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipJ2001 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Think Sony haven't reported any figures yet because Life isn't there either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 minute ago, PhilipJ2001 said: Think Sony haven't reported any figures yet because Life isn't there either Forgot about Life, that'll probably crack top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 That Kong hold is painful to see. Hopefully it can recover this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 minute ago, SchumacherFTW said: That Kong hold is painful to see. Hopefully it can recover this weekend. I think it'll finish just shy of Godzilla's total which is impressive considering it faced bigger competition and no holidays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agafin Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I think the $10 to £1 conversion tends to really exaggerate the performance of UK films relative to DOM. I personally use $8 to £1. Here's what I get with the some of top movies of both markets: Movie/ UK's actual (in mln£) /DOM equivalent (in mln$) / DOM actual (mln$)/ UK equivalent (mln£) SW: TFA - 123 - 984 - 937 -117 Avatar - 94 - 752 - 761 - 95 Skyfall - 103 - 824 - 304 - 38 Spectre- 95- 760 - 200 - 25 Titanic- 80 - 640 - 658 - 82 Jurassic W.- 65 - 520 - 652 - 82 Avengers- 52- 416 - 623 - 78 HP: PS- 66 - 528 - 317 - 40 Rogue One- 66 - 528 - 530 - 66 etc. You can tell which movies had much stronger performances in the UK relative to DOM ( most of the bond and Potter movies) and those that were much stronger domestically (like The Avengers -comics in general- or Jurassic World) and both of those cases reflect reality (Bond being stronger in the UK, CBM in the US etc) while the other movies mostly match each other. Using the other method, you'd have Titanic, Avatar and TFA being respectively equivalent to $800m, $940m and $1.23B which honestly doesn't seem realistic at all. That's why I consider that, as of now, BatB is having a similar performance in both markets. Using my conversion method, £39.4m is equivalent to about $315m, almost exactly what it has grossed DOM so far. Obviously, with better legs going forward, the UK might pull ahead. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipJ2001 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Still no numbers for Smurfs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkKnightOfSteel Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Just out of curiosity what were you initial OW/Total predictions for BaTB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, TheDarkKnightOfSteel said: Just out of curiosity what were you initial OW/Total predictions for BaTB? I expected around £12-13m OW initially. And somewhere between £50-60m total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkKnightOfSteel Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Heretic said: I expected around £12-13m OW initially. And somewhere between £50-60m total. Amazing this movie's run... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Wezzo said: The rule is that a film will usually do 10x as much in the US, in US$, as it will in the UK in UK£. So a $250m US blockbuster would on average be expected to take £25m here. Eaxctly this! 11 hours ago, pepsa said: Didn't TFA do 120M pound, it's hard to believe a movie would do 1200M dollar DOM. So we can see that TFA absolutely smashed it here in the UK and did much better than the USA. So TFA is the equivalent of an $1.2B movie in the US. Unimaginable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCS Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Wait how didn't TFA have a bigger 2nd weekend than BatB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
