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Monday Numbers: Joker passes $100M mark with $9.70M

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2 hours ago, A Star is Orm said:

Fantastic Sunday and Monday holds but the question is how much of that is the result of people who otherwise would have gone preview night or on OD but were scared off by fears of violence? I do think this is getting great WOM though. Was approached by someone today who doesn't know me that well who said, "Have you seen that new Joker movie? It's SO good!" 😀

Fucking incel trying to murder you...

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5 hours ago, narniadis said:

Be very difficult if for no other reason than the 13m previews. Needs 41.5m to get 50% without those factored in - doable yes, but not a guarantee. 48.1m which is the 50% mark overall is nearly impossible unless the film decides to have massively good holds after today. 

See, I'm gonna disagree (before I read everyone else's posts that already make these points)...

 

It's a gut feeling, but I feel the really strong Sunday/Monday really show that movie goers were avoiding opening Friday/Saturday madness, and were willing to wait to see the movie when they felt the "craziness" died down a little...2nd weekend will be even better for those fans, and it's a holiday weekend, so we could see an abnormally strong drop for a supers movie.

 

PS - Now Thursday night was the die hards...and they were going hell or high water.  But Friday and Saturday nights tend to have a more GA flavor, and those are the folks I'm talking about:)...

 

PPS - I won't see this til 3rd weekend, so I can't comment if the movie quality will also help spread a WOM to bring folks in...although these boards tend to be displaying a "positive" direction for that...

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55 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

See, I'm gonna disagree (before I read everyone else's posts that already make these points)...

 

It's a gut feeling, but I feel the really strong Sunday/Monday really show that movie goers were avoiding opening Friday/Saturday madness, and were willing to wait to see the movie when they felt the "craziness" died down a little...2nd weekend will be even better for those fans, and it's a holiday weekend, so we could see an abnormally strong drop for a supers movie.

 

PS - Now Thursday night was the die hards...and they were going hell or high water.  But Friday and Saturday nights tend to have a more GA flavor, and those are the folks I'm talking about:)...

 

PPS - I won't see this til 3rd weekend, so I can't comment if the movie quality will also help spread a WOM to bring folks in...although these boards tend to be displaying a "positive" direction for that...

Perfectly fine to disagree :) my first crack at weekend 2 after todays numbers topped 50m so its definitely possible (if even still unlikely). That being said, it has so far behaved like a well made adult film which means that if it can find the balance between the two film types (adult and younger skewing / superhero esq) it will do gangbusters. Playing straight like an adult skewed film will result in meltdowns Friday when it barely goes over 100%. Its all up in the air in a good way. 

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1 1 Joker (2019) WB $9,702,049 -60% - 4,374 $2,218 $105,904,386 4
2 3 Downton Abbey Focus $945,085 -60% -43% 3,548 $266 $74,561,940 18
3 2 Abominable Uni. $746,740 -80% -54% 4,248 $176 $38,501,710 11
4 6 Judy RAtt. $570,000 -59% +64% 1,458 $391 $9,627,241 11
5 4 Hustlers STX $565,101 -65% -45% 3,030 $187 $91,980,805 25
6 5 It: Chapter Two WB (NL) $393,326 -72% -54% 3,163 $124 $202,561,012 32
7 7 Ad Astra Fox $376,989 -65% -58% 2,910 $130 $43,674,339 18
8 8 Rambo: Last Blood LGF $326,567 -69% -56% 2,900 $113 $40,200,320 18
9 9 War (2019) Yash $145,000 -73% - 305 $475 $2,259,917 6
10 11 Good Boys Uni. $91,890 -60% -52% 1,006 $91 $82,124,605 53
11 12 The Lion King (2019) BV $72,697 -68% -54% 1,034 $70 $541,353,843 81
12 10 My People, My Country CMC $65,428 -75% - 67 $977 $1,618,945 7
- - Angel has Fallen LGF $65,297 -54% -57% 831 $79 $68,365,715 46
- - Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw Uni. $58,910 -59% -37% 682 $86 $173,168,280 67
- - The Peanut Butter Falcon RAtt. $53,000 -57% -41% 623 $85 $19,028,511 60
- - Overcomer Affirm $48,193 -62% -41% 672 $72 $33,970,057 46
- - Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark LGF $39,337 -68% -36% 577 $68 $67,551,911 60
- - Dora and the Lost City of Gold Par. $31,319 -74% -58% 481 $65 $60,034,425 60
- - Toy Story 4 BV $18,623 -74% +26% 243 $77 $433,333,060 109
- - 47 Meters Down: Uncaged ENTMP $7,527 -71% -23% 145 $52 $22,119,539 53
- - Ready or Not FoxS $6,919 -48% -53% 125 $55 $28,626,279 48
- - Lucy in the Sky FoxS $6,238 -56% - 37 $169 $60,296 4
- - The Art of Racing in the Rain Fox $5,797 -56% -36% 103 $56 $26,255,179 60
- - The Goldfinch WB $5,138 -57% -78% 86 $60 $5,264,441 25
- - The Farewell A24 $4,484 -61% -55% 40 $112 $17,563,862 88
- - Aladdin (2019) BV $4,393 -72% -33% 105 $42 $355,470,910 137
- - Chhichhore FIP $2,597 -72% -67% 33 $79 $1,992,890 32
- - Blinded By the Light WB $2,312 -64% -44% 75 $31 $11,892,960 53
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I just got confirmation of something that I thought was odd.

 

A couple of weeks ago I was at a local Century (Cinemark) movie theater and I saw a sign saying that their Discount Tuesdays were exclusively available through their own rewards club, if both on the free tier and the monthly plan.

 

I didn't recall it being like that in the past, but I just filed it away as one of those things.

 

Well while checking out r/MoviePassClub for shits and giggles, I saw this:

 

Cinemark Discount Tuesday doesn't work with Atom Tickets (r/MoviePassClub)

 

Apparently some time in the last month Cinemark did indeed switch over their Discount Tuesdays to being Members Only, again including the free tier, and it isn't working well with Fandango/Atom.

 

So consider this a heads up for folks who plan to check out something at a local Cinemark on the cheap if you aren't (or even if you are) a member of their movie club.  

 

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That's the most impressive domestic number thus far. Much better than even 13.3 MD. 60% drop after a very soft Sunday drop. Betting it goes for 250- 260 domestic. 50-53% 2nd weekend drop 

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8 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Gravity and Martian were some of the leggiest movies released in fall. But they played to wider audience. So I am not expecting > 4x legs for joker but 300m is definitely possible. We will know by this friday for sure.

Lot of competition coming. Literally nothing right now. This week should be great, next couple weeks will be just good drops. Thinking 280 max is still likely under 270 imo.

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1 hour ago, Porthos said:

I just got confirmation of something that I thought was odd.

 

A couple of weeks ago I was at a local Century (Cinemark) movie theater and I saw a sign saying that their Discount Tuesdays were exclusively available through their own rewards club, if both on the free tier and the monthly plan.

 

I didn't recall it being like that in the past, but I just filed it away as one of those things.

 

Well while checking out r/MoviePassClub for shits and giggles, I saw this:

 

Cinemark Discount Tuesday doesn't work with Atom Tickets (r/MoviePassClub)

 

Apparently some time in the last month Cinemark did indeed switch over their Discount Tuesdays to being Members Only, again including the free tier, and it isn't working well with Fandango/Atom.

 

So consider this a heads up for folks who plan to check out something at a local Cinemark on the cheap if you aren't (or even if you are) a member of their movie club.  

 

I can confirm - it's REALLY annoying!  It's gonna make me split my purchases on Tuesdays when I get an Atom deal, since it's not like I can't have two pages open at once:)...

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Film Distributor 3-Day Weekend Forecast Projected Domestic Total through Sunday, October 13 % Change from Last Wknd
Joker Warner Bros. $43,000,000 $172,400,000 -55%
The Addams Family (2019) United Artists Releasing $28,500,000 $28,500,000 NEW
Gemini Man Paramount $22,800,000 $22,800,000 NEW
Abominable Universal $6,800,000 $47,800,000 -43%
Downton Abbey Focus Features $4,500,000 $82,300,000 -44%
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Joker Day 5(AMC)

300577/810090(4476 shows)

Cinemark - 170456/272272

 

To compare it finished yesterday at 136870/716323 (3673 shows). Of course there is big discount ticket impact but its BO is also driven by NY/LA area where the Imax/PLF does not have any discounts. In fact I dont remember seeing NYC regular 2d shows having discount prices. Still overall number is boosted big by it and so I am going to predict 13-14m range for today.

 

I started looking at cinemark numbers and it has incredible % of tickets sold and I think cinemark has discount tuesday almost everywhere. I see it in local plex in bay area as well. Still impressive for Day 5.

 

I looked at PS for tomorrow at AMC/Cinemark and I can say its PS is well below today but ahead of Monday !!!! I dont expect wednesday to be above Monday in BO but I dont see a big Monday to Wednesday Drop. this is gonna gross 300m+ for sure.

 

AMC PS Day 6 - 27788/717821 (3631 shows) compared to 24529/725857 on Monday !!!

 

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