Weekend Thread: Actuals - Terminator 29, Joker 13.5, Mal2 13.1, Harriet 11.7, Addams 8.3

[Alli]

2 minutes ago, Poseidon said:

I thought that the trailer looked surprisingly good and got a great reception. 
This might very well be the movie to put their faith on. 

I think it might work in a MI-Way.

 

Something has to work in that week summer of 2020, doesn't it?

It already had a test screening. One guy said: NOT GOOD

 

Summer 2020 will be dominated by WW1984. Tenet will make some money too

[The Wild Eric]

1 minute ago, Alli said:

It already had a test screening. One guy said: NOT GOOD

 

Summer 2020 will be dominated by WW1984. Tenet will make some money too

 

[TheDarkKnightOfSteel]

18 minutes ago, Ms Lady Hawk said:

So what do you guys think? Will Joker hit 1B or will it be the first superhero/supervillian movie to gross in the 900m range? 

At this rate the question should be if it will cross the mark before or after Frozen 2.

[Alli]

7 minutes ago, Eric Connor said:

 

hahaha  i enjoyed that. i guess it's true.

[HeadShot]

so is joker doing 1b or nah?

[John Marston]

What other franchise   had four failed reboots? Just embarrassing 

[a2k]

13x, 15x, 17x gives TDF 30.5, 35.25, 40.0 ows with 2.35 previews.

On the higher end I think 100 dom can be kept alive while about 35 ow keeps beating TG (89.7) feasible.

[Zakiyyah6]

I adore Terminator but it is such an 80's/ early 90's franchise. Something about it seems dated to modern audiences so you'd need a highly hyped stellar movie with buzzed about stars to get 500mil worth of people to see another Terminator movie. 

[kitik]

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

What other franchise   had four failed reboots? Just embarrassing 

 

The best Terminator production since T2 was The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

(Salvation can kiss my stinky ass and rot in the fires of hell for playing a role in its cancellation.)

 

That said, the biggest problem seems to be that they've all tried to expand upon a time travel story. Which is just asking for trouble. They haven't been "reboots" as you said, they've all claimed to be sequels. (Though with some timey-wimey shenanigans thrown in.)

 

 

Seems like the only possible solution is to do an actual reboot at some point down the road. An all new origin story. But they'd have to wait like ten years, because the public really does seem to be done with it for now.

[Jake Gittes]

53 minutes ago, Alli said:

One guy said

well then.

Edited November 1, 2019 by Jake Gittes

[The Wild Eric]

https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-tracking-little-women-and-spies-in-disguise/

 

Release Date	Title	3-Day (FSS) Opening Tracking Range	3-Day (FSS) Opening Forecast	% Chg from Last Week	Domestic Total Range	% Chg from Last Week	Estimated Location Count	Distributor
11/8/2019	Doctor Sleep	$23,000,000 – $33,000,000	$25,000,000		$75,000,000 – $100,000,000		3,800*	Warner Bros.
11/8/2019	Last Christmas	$15,000,000 – $20,000,000	$17,000,000		$75,000,000 – $100,000,000		3,300*	Universal
11/8/2019	Midway	$10,000,000 – $15,000,000	$12,000,000	-8%	$35,000,000 – $55,000,000	-8%	3,000*	Lionsgate
11/8/2019	Playing with Fire	$7,000,000 – $12,000,000	$8,000,000		$30,000,000 – $40,000,000		2,800*	Paramount
11/15/2019	Charlie’s Angels (2019)	$15,000,000 – $23,000,000	$19,000,000	-5%	$45,000,000 – $70,000,000	-2%	3,900	Sony / Columbia
11/15/2019	The Good Liar	$5,000,000 – $10,000,000	$8,000,000		$30,000,000 – $45,000,000		2,500	Warner Bros.
11/15/2019	Ford v. Ferrari	$25,000,000 – $35,000,000	$32,000,000		$100,000,000 – $140,000,000	9%	3,950	Fox
11/22/2019	21 Bridges	$9,000,000 – $14,000,000	$10,000,000		$30,000,000 – $45,000,000			STX
11/22/2019	A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood	$16,000,000 – $21,000,000	$19,000,000		$85,000,000 – $115,000,000			Sony / Columbia
11/22/2019	Frozen 2	$115,000,000 – $145,000,000	$125,000,000		$420,000,000 – $520,000,000			Disney
11/27/2019	Knives Out	$15,000,000 – $20,000,000	$17,500,000		$60,000,000 – $85,000,000			Lionsgate
11/27/2019	Queen & Slim	$7,000,000 – $12,000,000	$8,000,000		$25,000,000 – $35,000,000			Universal
11/29/2019	Dark Waters (Expansion)	n/a	n/a		n/a			Focus Features
12/6/2019	PLAYMOBIL: The Movie	$3,000,000 – $8,000,000	$4,500,000		$10,000,000 – $20,000,000			STX
12/13/2019	Black Christmas	$10,000,000 – $15,000,000	$12,000,000		$28,000,000 – $38,000,000			Universal
12/13/2019	Jumanji: The Next Level	$66,000,000 – $76,000,000	$70,000,000		$250,000,000 – $300,000,000			Sony / Columbia
12/13/2019	Richard Jewell	$10,000,000 – $15,000,000	$13,000,000	18%	$60,000,000 – $80,000,000	14%		Warner Bros.
12/20/2019	Cats	$10,000,000 – $20,000,000	$14,000,000		$60,000,000 – $120,000,000			Universal
12/20/2019	Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker	$185,000,000 – $225,000,000	$200,000,000		$550,000,000 – $750,000,000			Disney / Lucasfilm
12/20/2019	Bombshell (Wide Expansion)	$5,000,000 – $10,000,000	$5,000,000		$30,000,000 – $45,000,000			Lionsgate
12/25/2019	Little Women (2019)	$15,000,000 – $25,000,000	$18,000,000	NEW	$80,000,000 – $120,000,000	NEW		Sony / Columbia
12/25/2019	Spies in Disguise	$14,000,000 – $24,000,000	$16,000,000	NEW	$70,000,000 – $110,000,000	NEW		Fox / Blue Sky

 

[Alli]

Is it even possible for Last Christmas to open  with 17M and reach 100M? That would be insane legs. I hope it happens

[Old Spice]

Nice bump in the Ford vs Ferarri prediction. I'd love to see that pan out. Ditto the total for A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood. November is looking like a quality month with those two along with Knives and Frozen 2. (And Doctor Sleep; I'm looking forward to that one as well.)

 

I think Richard Jewell will open higher than $13M unless it's doing a JoJo Rabbit style rollout. That trailer has generated a lot of positive buzz.

Edited November 1, 2019 by A Star is Orm
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[Valonqar]

8 minutes ago, Alli said:

Is it even possible for Last Christmas to open  with 17M and reach 100M? That would be insane legs. I hope it happens

yeah, no offense to BOP but those projections seem like guesswork to me. 

Edited November 1, 2019 by Valonqar

[Valonqar]

39 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

I adore Terminator but it is such an 80's/ early 90's franchise. Something about it seems dated to modern audiences so you'd need a highly hyped stellar movie with buzzed about stars to get 500mil worth of people to see another Terminator movie. 

I don't think it's outdated. It's just the same story seen 4 times. You either stop the apocalypse before happening or you don't. You cna't really do more than 2 movies with that premise. 

[Hatebox]

1 hour ago, lorddemaxus said:

Lol, have we forgotten about FFH already?

Ha, I guess I had. I should probably get around to watching those movies.

[Old Spice]

Dark Fate midday in Salt Lake City is outselling Joker 2.66 to 1 and Mal 2.25 to 1. Assuming those ratios maintain and Joker lands at the high end of most estimates ($13M), that would translate to an OW of $37M. ($34.58 + $2.35 previews). Using the same math for Mal would yield $31.6.

[The Futurist]

Dark Fate in deed.

[keysersoze123]

1 hour ago, narniadis said:

Definitely not sure what to think about the Friday / weekend expectations particularly if as Keyser has implied that Terminator is over indexing for AMC and city areas. If Thursday had been past history normal for other films behavior then Id jump the higher weekend train for Terminator but the oddly large (especially for family films) Thursday makes me second guess myself 🤣

In theory it should not as it targets older fan base which should make it play more broadly. I would like to wait for numbers today before we can say for sure its going to be big cities driven BO. As I said earlier AMC to Cin ratio for Friday is normal as opposed to Thursday previews leaning heavier on AMC.

 

its doing well today about 103K between 2 chains just past 11 in the morning. It needs to triple that number by night time to hope for it to hit double digit Friday and low teen including previews. Let us see this evening where things stand.

[dxmatrixdt]

Terminator gets lucky and catches another 40M OW in a bottle. how hard are they gonna have to work next time to repeat the same numbers?