PKMLover Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 This movie or The Lion King (2019) is more profitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 The Lion King is likely more profitable from theaters. Frozen 2 definitely more profitable pretty much anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Frozen 2 will likely win in Deadline’s profit estimates. The diff of 200M in gross is about 90M in revenue given their similar DOM/OS-C/C splits, so Frozen’s 110M advantage in production budget will put it ahead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I mean if we are including merch it won't be close. Frozen 2 WAY WAY above Lion King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Updated totals from BOM. DOMESTIC (33%) $475,845,268 INTERNATIONAL (67%) $967,146,578 WORLDWIDE $1,442,991,846 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 967,146,578 OS, 4,117,508 last 7 days, down 8.5% from previous week. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Can it make $1,45B WW ? How much can Frozen 2 add Worldwide ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Not counting the lion king remake, do you guys see any potential animated movie to pass frozen 2 at the box office? I can only see a zootopia sequel doing it. I cant think of another, cause i guess minions have caused fatigue worldwide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Frozen 3 or Incredibles 3 seem like the most obvious candidates to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Arendelle Legion said: Frozen 3 or Incredibles 3 seem like the most obvious candidates to me. Frozen 3 should have a better release date, especially if Disney wants the movie to be released at the same time worldwide. incredibles 3, I guess will not make 600 in the USA, probably 500, but it will increase overseas. the reason i think zootopia, bc the first ine made so much money in china. Obvs this is too early to predict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edroger3 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Mau said: Not counting the lion king remake, do you guys see any potential animated movie to pass frozen 2 at the box office? I can only see a zootopia sequel doing it. I cant think of another, cause i guess minions have caused fatigue worldwide. I think.. Pixar's: too weak overseas. Minions/DM: too weak domestically and maybe have passed away. Frozen 3: if happens, if sounds good, if it's still a merchandise monster. Zootopia: wait, Zootopia who? LOL. But could happens with.. Something of strong Asia-oriented (or totally Chinese) new brand helped by good exchange rates. A Disney Princess crossover/reunion in Avengers or Arrowverse style (see Ralph 2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, edroger3 said: I think.. Pixar's: too weak overseas. Minions/DM: too weak domestically and maybe have passed away. Frozen 3: if happens, if sounds good, if it's still a merchandise monster. Zootopia: wait, Zootopia who? LOL. But could happens with.. Something of strong Asia-oriented (or totally Chinese) new brand helped by good exchange rates. A Disney Princess crossover/reunion in Avengers or Arrowverse style (see Ralph 2). Does anyone know why pixar performs so bad overseas? only domestic and in Mexico seems to perform well. Yes maybe an original animated chinese film could make 1.5 Billion alone in ten years. Edited February 19, 2020 by Mau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, edroger3 said: I think.. Pixar's: too weak overseas. Minions/DM: too weak domestically and maybe have passed away. Frozen 3: if happens, if sounds good, if it's still a merchandise monster. Zootopia: wait, Zootopia who? LOL. But could happens with.. Something of strong Asia-oriented (or totally Chinese) new brand helped by good exchange rates. A Disney Princess crossover/reunion in Avengers or Arrowverse style (see Ralph 2). zootopia made 1060 billion and without china it made 880 million dollars, or around that just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mau said: Does anyone know why pixar performs so bad overseas? only domestic and in Mexico seems to perform well. Yes maybe an original animated chinese film could make 1.5 Billion alone in ten years. pixar os is just fina, animation other than some cases, is not very very strong os , pixar the most recent ones ex ts4 made around 450 os, thats very good, only comicbook movies and these big blockbuster movie make 600-700 os , that number is not the normal for most movies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edroger3 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, john2000 said: zootopia made 1060 billion and without china it made 880 million dollars, or around that just saying DOMESTIC (33.3%)$341,268,248 INTERNATIONAL (66.7%)$682,515,947 WORLDWIDE$1,023,784,195 China $236,086,416 Os-China $446.000.000 (F1 830 - F2 850) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, edroger3 said: DOMESTIC (33.3%)$341,268,248 INTERNATIONAL (66.7%)$682,515,947 WORLDWIDE$1,023,784,195 China $236,086,416 Os-China $446.000.000 (F1 830 - F2 850) i was talking ww-china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mau said: Does anyone know why pixar performs so bad overseas? only domestic and in Mexico seems to perform well. Pixar being weak overseas is mostly a false myth. Incredibles 2 and TS4 both did well over 600M overseas with awful exchange rates, and both Coco and Inside Out did just great considering they're original. That said, there is no Pixar movie among the top 7 animated movie of all time overseas. Top 10 Frozen 2 > 975M Frozen > 880M Minions > 823M DM3 > 770M Ice Age 4 > 716M Ice Age 3 > 690M Zootopia > 683M TS3 > 654M TS4 > 639M I2 > 634M A few relevant facts: * 6 of those 7 movies at the top belong to only 3 franchises and 6 of them are sequels * When TS3 was released, it was the #2 all-time os grosser just behind IA3 * Pixar gets pretty much ignored in China, which is something a little troubling nowadays; just switch the China gross of DM3 and TS4, and the latter is on par if not higher than the former * Pixar's sequels are not confirmed the week after the last chapter of the franchise comes out, but they get into production years later - with obvious consequences on both quality and quick box office revenues (much easier to beat the iron while it's hot) * Pixar often makes films that clearly are not meant to get a sequel, while Blue Sky and Illumination do the exact opposite (and we all know that you usually needs the third sequel of a beloved franchise if you want to go really really high) * Pixar is extremely consistent, and does not fully rely on a single franchise to top the chart (take IA out of Blue Sky and you get nothing; take the Minions out of Illumination and you don't have much left) 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKMLover Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Is Frozen 2 more profitable than Frozen? Because it has the same budget estimate but higher gross total? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, PKMLover said: Is Frozen 2 more profitable than Frozen? Because it has the same budget estimate but higher gross total? in terms of box office ? i would say yes or close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, PKMLover said: Is Frozen 2 more profitable than Frozen? Because it has the same budget estimate but higher gross total? Not including merch yes. Including merch lmao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
