Weekend Thread: FvF vroooms past 30M+; Say Goodnight Angels with 8M for CA; Waves washes up 37k+ PTA

[TwoMisfits]

43 minutes ago, sfran43 said:

 

Not a great drop for a Xmas movie...and worse b/c Playing with Fire actually had the better drop off a better open...should be interesting to see if theaters keep Playing With Fire over Thanksgiving to have a 2nd family option...or Last Christmas to have a 2nd Xmas one (since Frozen being winter tends to fit the bill)...I'm thinking right now, PwF wins at the small/mid-size...

[Zakiyyah6]

Joker passing a billion is so sweet. Shame Doctor Sleep couldn't perform like a James Wan produced horror movie. Charlie's Angels flopping sucks but the writing was on the wall weeks ago. Uninteresting casting to the masses, no hook and weak trailers killed it.

[sfran43]

 

[Curtis1986]

1 hour ago, a2k said:

Harriet could make it to 50 dom, unlike DrS, CA, Last Man with a prod budget is 17.

 

 

Power of a A+ cinamascore 

[narniadis]

That Playing With Fire hold shows that deadline was smoking crack with their original holdover estimates Friday morning 😂 solid hold for a film grossing so low already. 

 

Holds overall dont seem too bad in retrospect. Sadly its what happens when 2 of the 3 new openers sputter. 

[narniadis]

Harriet making it to 50m would require some considerable legs from this point forward. It just passed 30m and is about to get hit with Holiday screen murder part 1. 

Not complaining if it does, just noting that its a tall order already considering gross to date and this weekend. 

[sfran43]

 

[Godzilla]

2 minutes ago, narniadis said:

Harriet making it to 50m would require some considerable legs from this point forward. It just passed 30m and is about to get hit with Holiday screen murder part 1. 

Not complaining if it does, just noting that its a tall order already considering gross to date and this weekend. 

Thanksgiving week will help. 

[sfran43]

 

Edited November 17, 2019 by sfran43

[sfran43]

 

[Fancyarcher]

6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

Not a great drop for a Xmas movie...and worse b/c Playing with Fire actually had the better drop off a better open...should be interesting to see if theaters keep Playing With Fire over Thanksgiving to have a 2nd family option...or Last Christmas to have a 2nd Xmas one (since Frozen being winter tends to fit the bill)...I'm thinking right now, PwF wins at the small/mid-size...

PWF should last longer, because it's a kids film, although Frozen 2 next weekend will really hurt it.

[sfran43]

 

Edited November 17, 2019 by sfran43

[sfran43]

 

[John Marston]

52 minutes ago, sfran43 said:

 

 

Obviously the next step is to reboot it again. 

[sfran43]

 

[sfran43]

 

[sfran43]

1	N	Ford v. Ferrari	20th Cent…	$31,037,000		3,528		$8,797	$31,037,000	1
2	(1)	Midway	Lionsgate	$8,750,000	-51%	3,242	n/c	$2,699	$35,140,773	2
3	N	Charlie’s Angels	Sony Pict…	$8,600,000		3,452		$2,491	$8,600,000	1
4	(3)	Playing with Fire	Paramount…	$8,550,000	-33%	3,125	n/c	$2,736	$25,497,824	2
5	(4)	Last Christmas	Universal	$6,700,000	-41%	3,454	+6	$1,940	$22,575,765	2
6	(2)	Doctor Sleep	Warner Bros.	$6,181,000	-56%	3,855	n/c	$1,603	$25,039,159	2
7	N	The Good Liar	Warner Bros.	$5,656,000		2,439		$2,319	$5,656,000	1
8	(6)	Joker	Warner Bros.	$5,635,000	-39%	2,337	-469	$2,411	$322,599,593	7
9	(7)	Maleficent: Mistress …	Walt Disney	$5,247,000	-38%	2,549	-652	$2,058	$106,040,384	5
10	(8)	Harriet	Focus Fea…	$4,780,000	-35%	2,011	-175	$2,377	$31,882,990	3
11	(5)	Terminator: Dark Fate	Paramount…	$4,375,000	-60%	2,477	-1,609	$1,766	$56,885,077	3
12	(11)	Jojo Rabbit	Fox Searc…	$2,818,000	-29%	995	+193	$2,832	$13,597,498	5
13	(9)	Zombieland: Double Tap	Sony Pict…	$2,010,000	-53%	1,407	-1,020	$1,429	$70,393,247	5
-	(13)	Parasite	Neon	$1,935,000	-25%	620	+17	$3,121	$14,493,363	6
-	(15)	Black and Blue	Sony Pict…	$950,000	-49%	558	-571	$1,703	$20,783,804	4
-	(14)	Motherless Brooklyn	Warner Bros.	$500,000	-77%	611	-731	$818	$8,814,596	3
-	(20)	Abominable	Universal	$339,000	-25%	299	-107	$1,134	$59,738,090	8
-	(19)	Downton Abbey	Focus Fea…	$305,000	-52%	303	-171	$1,007	$96,287,560	9
-	(23)	Honey Boy	Amazon St…	$210,617	-30%	17	+13	$12,389	$584,714	2
-	(16)	Arctic Dogs	Entertain…	$210,000	-80%	356	-1,964	$590	$5,512,602	3
-	(25)	Jay and Silent Bob Re…	Saban Films	$168,993	-28%	10	-5	$16,899	$2,591,058	5
-	(21)	Gemini Man	Paramount…	$119,000	-71%	176	-304	$676	$48,314,156	6
-	(29)	The Lion King	Walt Disney	$53,000	-36%	116	-19	$457	$543,549,835	18
-	(24)	The Current War: Dire…	101 Studios	$46,443	-80%	143	-260	$325	$5,880,445	4
-	(41)	Rambo: Last Blood	Lionsgate	$44,000	+158%	84	+26	$524	$44,794,778	9
-	(26)	Ad Astra	20th Cent…	$39,000	-81%	78	-170	$500	$50,088,562	9
-	(28)	Housefull 4	FIP	$35,000	-72%	25	-60	$1,400	$2,101,454	4
-	(33)	Toy Story 4	Walt Disney	$33,000	-25%	70	-19	$471	$433,989,983	22
-	N	Mickey and the Bear	Self Dist…	$9,523		1		$9,523	$9,523	1
-	(46)	American Dharma		$6,763	-5%	8	+5	$845	$28,190	3

[sfran43]

 

[filmlover]

Excellent start for Ford v Ferrari. The movie is a total crowd-pleaser so I expect strong legs to a $100M+ finish, maybe even a $125M+ finish. Definitely a much-needed win for post-Disney-acquisition Fox.

 

Charlie's Angels, though...yeesh. I kinda feel bad for everyone involved considering the writing was clearly on the wall this whole time that this was gonna fail (this being one reboot that didn't seem to be made for any audience in particular), but this couldn't even live up to the already low expectations for it. Luckily Sony was wise to keep the budget on the low side instead of spending an absurd amount of money, and whatever losses they see on this will be instantly made up for with the trifecta of A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood/Jumanji/Little Women over the remainder of the year.

 

Holdovers seem fine. Midway could've fallen worse given that Ford v Ferrari took away a good portion of the adult audience this weekend. Playing with Fire held well although it's about to face Frozen next weekend. Decent enough hold for Last Christmas, which might reach a similar number to 2015's The Night Before ($43M) if it can survive Thanksgiving and hold onto enough theaters by the time its namesake holiday gets here. Jojo Rabbit and Parasite are starting to slow down but they'll be getting a second chance in January when awards season will be in full swing.

 

The Good Liar was dumped and performed accordingly.

 

That's a solid start for Waves, but I kinda expected something closer to a $60K+ PTA given that the buzz for it seemed to be at a similar level as Honey Boy which posted a $75K+ PTA last weekend.

 

Speaking of which, Honey Boy actually fell by 30% from its debut last weekend despite adding a handful of theaters. I'm guessing Shia made a couple of in-person appearances which boosted the numbers last weekend?

[Maxmoser3]

Solid start for Ford V. Ferrari. That’s a great start for a non-sequel or franchise start for both Christian Bale and Matt Damon! Should play very well in the next few weeks and $100 million could easily happen.

 

Charlie’s Angels floppage. What went wrong? Unappealing brand as I’ve said earlier this weekend. The Charlie’s Angels brand itself is dying off, and it’s been proven fact as the 2011 reboot tv show with Rachael Taylor who was kind of TV poison on her own right couldn’t even last one season! And also the 2000 film came out at a great time with both Drew Barrymore & Cameron Diaz at the top of their prime and it did very well in November of 2000!
 

However, the sequel which came out five days before Terminator 3. Didn’t do as well. The sequel was hated by audiences and it fell flat fast. 
 

As for the reboot, the trailers looked decent but not enough to capture people into a cinema. So overall New Charlie’s Angels will be a flop for Sony, and should do $20-$25 million domestic. 

Joker making a $1 billion this weekend is fantastic! It’s great to see R rated films shine, more and more. And also films that look appealing shine even more as well.

 

 

other releases, Terminator and Doctor Sleep dying very fast. Terminator: Dark Fate’s box office is looking quite similar to Alien Resurrection’s performance back in 1997. As for Doctor Sleep thats embarrassing that it won’t even reach the domestic total of The Shinning almost 40 years ago.

 

Midway still crashing in its budget. But it could’ve played much worse.

 

Playing with Fire and Last Christmas  are the good holdovers. Playing With Fire may be Paramount’s first small profit since Dora three months ago. Last Christmas its hold is fine nothing special but fine, Universal should be satisfied with its domestic total in the long run. 
 

This is  my half-assed two cents on the films thus far. Anyway off to another hiding spot until Friday night. 

later,

Max Moser

Edited November 17, 2019 by Maxmoser3