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1 hour ago, Alli said:

The Shining is not exactly a cult classic. It made 44M in 1980, that's more than many horror movies released these days. The problem is that the original audience is dead or too old to care. The teens today just didn't care for its sequel

$44 million in 1980 standards was blockbuster level for a horror film! 

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5 minutes ago, JB33 said:

Wait....I thought there was no way F2 misses $130M.

Disney always lowballs the estimates.

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6 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I noticed pattern of Joker show count for 6 weeks and despite it having great holds, its showcount started dropping and at times worse levels than what the BO drops indicate.

I was going to compare this to Aladdin, but the huge difference is that Aladdin is 4-quandrant, family friendly, and was a summer release. Plus, there was the memorial day weekend it had too.

 

In its 7th weekend, Joker did 5.3M. In its 7th weekend, Aladdin did 7.5M.

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11 minutes ago, wildphantom said:

I’m really wrestling with how Neighborhood and Ferrari have done this weekend. The latter, not a terrible hold, but after it’s reception you’d think it would have held way better than that. 
 

I guess we just need to put our focus on hoping older audiences having the holidays to spend their dollars on these good movies. 
 

Praying to the movie gods we get a few adult aimed films getting some legs....

It lost all of the bigger theaters to Frozen this weekend and had to make do with medium-sized theaters. The hold is solid all things considered.

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Anyone who thought F2 was going to be anything but an out of the box smash was fooling themselves. The original Frozen is one of the most profitable movies of the 2000s, it cast an even larger cultural shadow than its $400m DOM and $1.2B WW box office. If you have little girls - which like half the families in the world have, btw, you know how big this thing is. I read in a trade publication that they have sold over $500 million worth of Elsa and Anna dolls. That was two years ago.

 

And it doesn't matter that it's a mediocre movie. "Finding Dory" and "Incredibles 2" were mediocre movies. So was the TLK remake this past summer. The whole "Frozen" thing is so big it just steamrolls over those considerations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I know The Shining was a hit when it came out in the 1970's but that doesn't translate to people caring in 2019. It's not like it's Star Wars and kept up its hype.

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5 minutes ago, Xftg123 said:

I was going to compare this to Aladdin, but the huge difference is that Aladdin is 4-quandrant, family friendly, and was a summer release. Plus, there was the memorial day weekend it had too.

 

In its 7th weekend, Joker did 5.3M. In its 7th weekend, Aladdin did 7.5M.

Aladdin played strong with families and played well through the summer. Amazing run indeed. Joker had some weekends of amazing holds but its 3rd weekend hold was just ok. But it was losing show count steadily and that limits the holds. These days there are at least 2-3 openers every week and holdovers are hit for sure. Aladdin dropped once above 30% between 3rd to 9th weekend when TLK opened. That was amazing indeed. Joker is amazing as it was expected to be frontloaded(a CB movie) with big previews as well. but it did great overall.

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Joker will get a 3.4 multiplier soon. Most big opening comic book movies would kill for those legs.

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23 minutes ago, Maxmoser3 said:

$44 million in 1980 standards was blockbuster level for a horror film! 

14th that year on Dom chart and well over it's 19m prod budget.

 

Rank Movie Title (click to view) Studio
Total Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Open
1 The Empire Strikes Back Fox $209,398,025 1,278 $4,910,483 126 5/21
2 9 to 5 Fox $103,290,500 N/A $3,966,832 910 12/19
3 Stir Crazy Col. $101,300,000 N/A $8,691,886 813 12/12
4 Airplane! Par. $83,453,539 N/A N/A N/A 6/27
5 Any Which Way You Can WB $70,687,344 N/A $8,024,663 1,541 12/17
6 Private Benjamin WB $69,847,348 N/A $4,739,769 763 10/10
7 Coal Miner's Daughter Uni. $67,182,787 N/A $3,366,443 437 3/7
8 Smokey and the Bandit II Uni. $66,132,626 N/A $10,883,835 1,196 8/15
9 The Blue Lagoon Col. $58,853,106 N/A N/A N/A 6/20
10 The Blues Brothers Uni. $57,229,890 N/A $4,858,152 594 6/20
11 Ordinary People Par. $54,766,923 N/A $170,335 6 9/19
12 Popeye Par. $49,823,037 901 $6,310,520 901 12/12
13 Urban Cowboy Par. $46,918,287 N/A N/A N/A 6/6
14 The Shining WB $44,017,374 N/A $622,337 10 5/23
15 Seems Like Old Times Col. $43,995,918 N/A N/A N/A 12/19
16 Cheech & Chong's Next Movie Uni. $41,675,194 N/A $5,262,963 814 7/18
17 Caddyshack WB $39,846,344 N/A $3,142,689 656 7/25
18 Friday the 13th (1980) Par. $39,754,601 N/A $5,816,321 1,100 5/9
19 Brubaker Fox $37,121,708 N/A $2,748,079 594 6/20
20 Little Darlings Par. $34,326,249 N/A N/A N/A 3/21

 

14th film last 10 years:

2018 WIR2 201

2017 Dunkirk 188

2016 Hidden Figures 170

2015 Ant-Man 180

2014 22JS 192

2013 Croods 187

2012 MIB3 179

2011 Bridesmaids 169

2010 Clash of the Titans 163

2009 Night at the Museum2 177

 

2019 WICK3 171 - currently #11 but F2, Jum3 and SW9 will push it to #14.

If a couple more surprise in December and pass WICK3 then HS 174 and US 175 will have a shot.

So #14 gonna stay in the 171-175 range.

 

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3 hours ago, Spidey Freak said:

It happened in 1994. 

I know. I don't buy it. Name the exec. If true, he should be outed. Sounds to be like a cheap attempt at trying to create a narrative for Harriet, a generic and middling movie, so that it enters the Oscar race. Now with this Julia Roberts news going viral, I guarantee the actress playing Harriet will get nominated. 

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2 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Better legs than Dory without summer weekdays and having big movies taking away the screen. This is with F2 not having universal acclaim.

 

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how about , wait and see the legs, for once ? before we lock or write off something, you know for a change

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8 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

I know The Shining was a hit when it came out in the 1970's but that doesn't translate to people caring in 2019

Same with Blade Runner 2049. When BR 2049 came out as a flop, people in the comment sections of places such as Youtube, Reddit, etc, referred to the general audience as "dumb" or that "they don't understand true art". No, that's not the answer. Not a lot of people in terms of the general audience have even heard of the original Blade Runner or even The Shining.

 

It's more of a cinephile crowd than a general audience one.

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1 minute ago, john2000 said:

how about , wait and see the legs, for once ? before we lock or write off something, you know for a change

I am with you. That is why I said good luck.

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Stay safe out there everyone, Frozen 2 is inspiring people to attack each other with machetes.

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2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I am with you. That is why I said good luck.

sorry , i thought that it was ironic  :(

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yeah, i read about that Harriet controversy. No way i'm buying it. I can't believe people are taking it seriously. No way it happened. Maybe it was said in jest, as a joke.  The screenwriter who told this anecdote says someone told him the story. he was not present when it happened. This screenwriter must be pretty naive to believe such a bullshit story

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33 minutes ago, wildphantom said:

I’m really wrestling with how Neighborhood and Ferrari have done this weekend. The latter, not a terrible hold, but after it’s reception you’d think it would have held way better than that. 
 

I guess we just need to put our focus on hoping older audiences having the holidays to spend their dollars on these good movies. 
 

Praying to the movie gods we get a few adult aimed films getting some legs....

 

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https://worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2248736#p2248736

 

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My Weekend Estimate for Frozen II:

2-Day Opening Weekend: ¥1.700 billion ($15.7 million) / 1,260,000 admissions.
3-Day Total: ¥2.025 billion ($18.6 million) / 1,490,000 admissions.


Records:

*Biggest Animated Film Opening Weekend Ever - Revenue.
*Biggest Opening Weekend For An Imported Animated Film - Revenue.
*Biggest Opening Weekend For An Imported Animated Film - Admissions.
*Biggest Disney Opening Weekend Ever - Revenue.
*Biggest Disney Opening Weekend Ever - Admissions.
*Biggest Animated Film Opening Weekend In November.

Other Notable Accomplishments:

*Biggest Opening Weekend Since 2007 - Revenue.
*Second Biggest Opening Weekend Since 2007 - Admissions.
*Second Biggest Animated Film Opening Weekend Ever - Admissions.
*Second Biggest November Opening Weekend.
*Seventh Animated Film to Ever Debut Above 1,000,000 Admissions.
*Thirteenth Overall Film to Ever Debut Above 1,000,000 Admissions.

There's probably some more, but these are off the top of my head and 100% certain. I might add to this list tomorrow.
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11 minutes ago, john2000 said:

sorry , i thought that it was ironic  :(

I may not agree with him but I am not ridiculing him. Its more of a challenge. Let us see how things go. @Thanos Legion is a great poster. So I have nothing but best wishes to him.

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11 minutes ago, Alli said:

yeah, i read about that Harriet controversy. No way i'm buying it. I can't believe people are taking it seriously. No way it happened. Maybe it was said in jest, as a joke.  The screenwriter who told this anecdote says someone told him the story. he was not present when it happened. This screenwriter must be pretty naive to believe such a bullshit story

Oh he's not naive. He knows exactly what he's doing. 

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