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[reddevil19]

Just now, RealLyre said:

bracing myself for people on a box office forum to claim that a 373M global opening to a film that cost $250M to make is bad. 

 

 

No, in a vacuum, it's not.

But it's all about expectations...

[Fullbuster]

6 minutes ago, TMP said:

Episode VII did $2 billion and now Ep IX might not even do $1 billion

 

Just make a Star Wars / Guardians of the Galaxy crossover and the money will be flowing from all over the world 🤑💰💸

[boomboom234]

2 minutes ago, John Marston said:

It’s pretty much an agreed fact that if people don’t care for a movie, then they likely won’t show up for a sequel. TLJ is no exception 

 

 

and since when did anyone think JJ was the messiah? 

No people loved the inspired genius of Rian Johnson and when they saw  J.J. and this movie we’re different they were so disappointed they didn’t come how can there be any other reason 

[Nova]

When TROS has weak legs it’ll also be Rian’s fault, right 

[reddevil19]

Just now, Fullbuster said:

Just make a Star Wars / Guardians of the Galaxy crossover and the money will be flowing from all over the world 🤑💰💸

I mean... as far as the MCU goes, GOTG isn't in their top tier for OS numbers. So, yeah, suppose that's where SW fits now.

[Nova]

6 minutes ago, John Marston said:

It’s pretty much an agreed fact that if people don’t care for a movie, then they likely won’t show up for a sequel. TLJ is no exception 

 

 

and since when did anyone think JJ was the messiah? 

Thor 3 and Iron Man 3 beg to differ. If the sequel is well received all bets are off. The problem TROS has is that it’s not being well received either. I never said TLJ had no effect. I said it doesn’t explain the $50M drop off in the OW. If TROS was being well received with great reviews we’d be looking at a $200M+ OW. If TROS opened to say $205M with good reviews I’d be 100% on board with TLJ decreasing the OW. But by $50M when said sequel isn’t being received well? Yea sorry you can’t just blame that on TLJ. 

Edited December 22, 2019 by Nova

[sfran43]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[Bart Allen]

2 minutes ago, Nova said:

When TROS has weak legs it’ll also be Rian’s fault, right 

Well given that The Last Jedi made over $700 million less than The Force Awakens ...

 

He'll be the fall guy - I mean you could tell JJ was slighting him in some of those interviews as far as decision making was concerned. But I'm expecting to hear the typical "We made a film for the fans" narrative short after - undoubtedly - the Disney executives and shareholders have their say.

Edited December 22, 2019 by Bart Allen

[The Futurist]

2 minutes ago, Nova said:

When TROS has weak legs it’ll also be Rian’s fault, right 

It always is.

Knives Out failure proved that.

[a2k]

Disney making a MCU-SW crossover is equivalent to WB making a Middle Earth-HP crossover (starring Frodo Potter, Dumbledalf, Sam Weasly, Galadriel Granger, dwarfs, dragons, giants, wizards, wands, rings and mountains).

Edited December 22, 2019 by a2k

[RealLyre]

1 minute ago, Nova said:

When TROS has weak legs it’ll also be Rian’s fault, right 

TLJ not answering TFA questions = Rian's fault 

TRoS giving the fans what they want but still underperforming cus of TLJ = also Rian's fault 

 

 

 

 

[LaughingEvans]

I'm starting to believe that Rian Johnson has multiple alias accounts on this forum. 

[Bart Allen]

2 minutes ago, a2k said:

Disney making a MCU-SW crossover is equivalent to WB making a Middle Earth-HP crossover.

Can't be as bad as Sony's proposed Men in Black and 22 Jump Street crossover 😂

[Nova]

2 minutes ago, Bart Allen said:

Can't be as bad as Sony's proposed Men in Black and 22 Jump Street crossover 😂

That sounds horrible. Next thing you know they’re just gonna through Jumanji in there as well. 

Edited December 22, 2019 by Nova

[boomboom234]

6 minutes ago, Nova said:

Thor 3 and Iron Man 3 beg to differ. If the sequel is well received all bets are off. The problem TROS has is that it’s not being well received either. I never said TLJ had no effect. I said it doesn’t explain the $50M drop off in the OW. If TROS was being well received with great reviews we’d be looking at a $200M+ OW. If TROS opened to say $205M with good reviews I’d be 100% on board with TLJ decreasing the OW. But by $50M when said sequel isn’t being received well? Yea sorry you can’t just blame that on TLJ. 

Iron man 3 was a sequel to the TA more than Iron man 2. And Thor 3 brought in the hulk and was more a follow up to Ultron so it’s not a 1 to 1 

[Madhuvan]

Woah. 

Jumanji 3 made 32.6m OS in its sexond weekend. 

 

Frozen 2 made 31.6 in its fifth weekend. 

 

That's some crazy holds for frozen inspite of TROS. 

Edited December 22, 2019 by Madhuvan

[Madhuvan]

Look on the bright side.

Frozen 2 is doing amazing both Dom and WW. 

All set for 1.45-1.48b WW. 

[The Futurist]

Handling multi billions dollar franchises was always gonna be way more difficult than making pseudo risky movies like Marriage Story, Uncut Gems, Little Women or Parasite movies with a total lack of ambition in almsost every way. 

Their sole amition & excuse for existing is to cater and please cinephiles, critics & award bodies, a tiny but loud minority that dictates what good taste is.

 

My point being :

Disney s tentpole strategy was always gonna be the most difficult and riskier one.

Having a brand means nothing.

Making movies for general audiences is the most difficult  art form there is.

It is also th emost noble.

 

That s why most of the pseudo artist (say the word with a french accent) directors cinephiles fap to don't even try to make those films, it scares them.

Edited December 22, 2019 by The Futurist

[misafeco]

TROS Sunday 20% drop seems a bit too harsh, is there a chance this is another Disney underestimation? Could be the case for Frozen 2 too.