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"Science should not stand in the way of schools reopening"

 

TRump's hatred for sceince will kill over 2000 Thousand Americans at least, and probably ,more.

And I  know why Trump hates science. He can't bully or intimidate it.

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31 minutes ago, dudalb said:

"Science should not stand in the way of schools reopening"

 

TRump's hatred for sceince will kill over 2000 Thousand Americans at least, and probably ,more.

And I  know why Trump hates science. He can't bully or intimidate it.

I just saw him talking about personally increasing the amount of water in dishwashers because people in certain parts of the country “don’t know what to do with water”...this is the shit he feels he needs to talk about in front of the White House in the middle of the deadliest pandemic in over a century...the man is mentally broken. I feel so sorry for Americans who have to look at him and listen to the utter gibberish that comes out of his mouth knowing that he’s in charge. A chimp would be more coherent and could do a better job.

 

Please America, in November, do the right thing and vote him out by an embarrassing margin.

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Bad day, over 70K cases. Almost 1,000 deaths - probably hit that sometime next week (numbers tend to be lower Fri-Mon). Highest death day since May 29th. Highest # of hospitalizations since April 23rd according to COVID Tracking Project

 

 

Cases continue to expand out from the hotspots

 

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Still hasn’t peaked in Victoria. This is twice as bad as the worst day in NSW back at the end of March. Stay safe and follow all the advice Victorians. 
 

@Darth Lehnsherr

 

 

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So GA Gov Kemp has decided that he can't let Gov DeSantis have the title of worst Gov in America without a fight.

 

Just today we had Gov Desantis blaming the media for the FL COVID19 problems. Basically saying the media stopped reporting on it so people got complacent.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/07/16/florida-gov-ron-desantis-coronavirus-media-fact-check-nr-vpx.cnn

 

But Gov Kemp says wait, I can top that. I'm going to sue Atlanta's Mayor over its mask ordinance saying it violates my emergency order and is therefore illegal. He also says he is doing it for the small businesses in Atlanta that are struggling in the current environment to stay open. Interestingly a couple of mayors of cities in Metro Atlanta so local buinesses have asked them to implement mask orders to make it safer for their employees and customers.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/politics/georgia-kemp-mask-mandate/index.html

 

And in case they needed reminding the Center for Public Integrity released a 350 pg document that is the weekly report the Coronavirus Task Force creates for all the Governors. in it both GA and FL (2 of 18 total) are in the red zone and are encouraged to move to more restrictions including requiring mask wearing and close bars, gyms and indoor dining.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6990255-Governors-Report-14-July-20.html

 

 

 

 

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Yesterday on worldometers Brazil became the 2nd country to hit 2M and India the 3rd to hit 1M.    
 

Also Europe has now dropped out of the top 8 entirely, probably going to get pushed out of top 10 by some combination of Iran, Pakistan, and Columbia.

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10 hours ago, AndyK said:

Looks like the Russian vaccine is stolen......

 

Coronavirus: Russian cyber spies attempting to steal vaccine research from Britain, US and Canada

 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-russian-cyber-spies-attempting-to-steal-vaccine-research-from-britain-us-and-canada-12029697

 

Don't see a downside to this really. The more (vaccine) the merrier.

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12 hours ago, RamblinRed said:

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany reiterated that President Trump supports opening schools fully, without any kind of remote learning in the fall, and she argued “science should not stand in the way” of that goal.

“When he says open, he means open in in full, kids being able to attend each and every day at their school,” McEnany told reporters at the press briefing. “The science should not stand in the way of this.”

“The science is on our side here,” she added. 

McEnany cited a Journal of the American Medical Association pediatric study of 46 hospitals that she said showed the risk to children posed by Covid-19 is less than that posed by the seasonal flu.

“We encourage for localities and states to just simply follow the science, open our schools. It’s very damaging to our children,” she said. “There’s a lack of reporting of abuse, there’s mental depressions that are not addressed, suicidal ideations that are not address when students are not in school.”

Remember: Many experts worry about returning to classrooms not necessarily because of the risk to the students themselves, but because of the risk that children could worsen the spread of coronavirus by bringing it home to older relatives and because teachers and school employees would also be put at risk for serious illness.  

Despite Trump’s aggressive push for school reopenings, a number of the nation’s largest school districts have announced they will not return for in-person learning at the start of the school year in the fall.

The worst cluster in the current Melbourne outbreak is the Al Taqwa College cluster. 
 

 

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Belgium reported zero new Covid-19 related deaths in 24 hours on 14 July for the first time since 10 March.

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5 hours ago, AndyK said:

That seems completely counter intuitive. People don't have immunity to the common cold. People get it over and over - within the same year. So using that as your basis for herd immunity from COVID does seem to make much sense.

 

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5 hours ago, AndyK said:

"In a paper yet to be peer-reviewed, they point to evidence suggesting exposure to seasonal coronaviruses, such as the common cold, may have already provided some with a degree of immunity, and note that others may be more naturally resistant to infection."

 

"Modelling how differing levels of pre-existing immunity between individuals could affect the overall “threshold” needed to prevent a resurgence of the virus, they found that this could be as low as 20 per cent."

 

This study is entirely hypothetical and yet to be validated. Lets not use it to promote the banal notion of herd immunity being the solution.

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2 hours ago, RamblinRed said:

That seems completely counter intuitive. People don't have immunity to the common cold. People get it over and over - within the same year. So using that as your basis for herd immunity from COVID does seem to make much sense.

 

Is it not one reason advanced why the homeless population seem to have an incredibly high level of asymptomatic case, near 90% in some study, some 100% (they can find hundreds of them infected with COVID in a shelter without anyone having symptoms), it could be suns exposure, but it could have got a lot of common cold virus exposure/fight through recently versus the average population:

 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2765378

https://www.bhchp.org/sites/default/files/Testing Reveals 'Stunning' Asymptomatic Coronavirus Spread Among Boston's Homeless _ CommonHealth.pdf

 

Now it depend how less contagious an fully asymptomatics person really is, I would imagine, but it has been talked since the start that exposure to many similar like virus in the past could help (kids for example, tend to have had recently a lot of colds) and when exposed to the common cold adults with kids usually get infected less than adults without kids, indicating that previous exposure to seem to build some immunity.

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FWIW, with what is happening in the US it reminds me of this song by Paul McCartney from 2018 called 'Depsite Repeated Warnings'

 

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3 hours ago, OncomingStorm93 said:

"In a paper yet to be peer-reviewed, they point to evidence suggesting exposure to seasonal coronaviruses, such as the common cold, may have already provided some with a degree of immunity, and note that others may be more naturally resistant to infection."

 

"Modelling how differing levels of pre-existing immunity between individuals could affect the overall “threshold” needed to prevent a resurgence of the virus, they found that this could be as low as 20 per cent."

 

This study is entirely hypothetical and yet to be validated. Lets not use it to promote the banal notion of herd immunity being the solution.

As far as I know, no paper concerning Covid-19 has been peer reviewed included the Imperial college report and model that led to multiple countries locking down their economies.

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16 minutes ago, AndyK said:

As far as I know, no paper concerning Covid-19 has been peer reviewed included the Imperial college report and model that led to multiple countries locking down their economies.

Pretty amazing to beat that dead horse 4 months later. Maybe you should stop following the last "herd immunity" fanatics of YouTube, even Sweden has given up on the idea.

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3 hours ago, OncomingStorm93 said:

"In a paper yet to be peer-reviewed, they point to evidence suggesting exposure to seasonal coronaviruses, such as the common cold, may have already provided some with a degree of immunity, and note that others may be more naturally resistant to infection."

 

"Modelling how differing levels of pre-existing immunity between individuals could affect the overall “threshold” needed to prevent a resurgence of the virus, they found that this could be as low as 20 per cent."

 

This study is entirely hypothetical and yet to be validated. Lets not use it to promote the banal notion of herd immunity being the solution.

Every time somebody says herd immunity is the solution, I think" Another preson who woule rather see people die then suffer personal inconvience".

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