google-site-verification=EzRt-ZmNlc4J5RNLXiuJpAEGjNviG678nNB1w49cgZg Jump to content
DeeCee

Coronavirus | COVID-19 | Global Pandemic | PLEASE KEEP DISCUSSION TO THIS THREAD

Recommended Posts

My God, the traveling people are insane. Thanksgiving and next is Christmas. By next year half of America will have Corona

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

About the vaccine. People in the US don't even want to wear a mask. I doubt most of them will take the vaccine. It's a disaster

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Maggie said:

About the vaccine. People in the US don't even want to wear a mask. I doubt most of them will take the vaccine. It's a disaster

Polls indicate 70% will take it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, cdsacken said:

Just think if we didn't have medical breakthroughs with treatment and a vaccine otw in a few weeks. We would be looking 600k+ dead just in America

Don't underestimate the logistics behind such a vaccination program ... the virus will be with us throughout the winter, and that means your 600k number is still very much in play, sadly (without severe restrictions, of course).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

NSW reopened the border with Victoria at midnight last night. 
 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The news about the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine are very good; it's a different approach than the PfizerBiontech/Moderna ones - in fact uncannily similar to the Russian one - and - that's the most important point - it can be stored at fridge temperatures. Which makes distribution a LOT easier!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Odd results for Oxford vaccine, 70% effective when taken as a double dose and 90% effective when taken as a half dose followed by a full dose.

 

Both dosages 100% effective in preventing hospitalisations.

 

 

Edited by AndyK
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
35 minutes ago, AndyK said:

Odd results for Oxford vaccine, 70% effective when taken as a double dose and 90% effective when taken as a half dose followed by a full dose.

 

Both dosages 100% effective in preventing hospitalisations.

 

 

Doesn't seem odd to me, the other vaccines are also featureing a 2nd "booster" shot.

There are vaccines which take even more than 2 shots ... TBE for instance

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, cdsacken said:

Polls indicate 70% will take it. 

That ain't good enough....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Don't underestimate the logistics behind such a vaccination program ... the virus will be with us throughout the winter, and that means your 600k number is still very much in play, sadly (without severe restrictions, of course).

Rumors are the US Militarty will have to get involved with vaccine distriubtuion just because they can do a lot of the heavy logistical lifting.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Don't underestimate the logistics behind such a vaccination program ... the virus will be with us throughout the winter, and that means your 600k number is still very much in play, sadly (without severe restrictions, of course).

Was watching a doctor on TV last night and this was her biggest concern. She was asked when she thought we would be able to resume 'normal' life and her answer was that if everything went right and there were no hiccups then by next summer.

 

Her concerns were largely with logistics. How do we get from producing it to getting it injected in someone's arm. Basically we are looking at the largest vaccination program in US history (this obviously goes for the rest of the world as well) and expecting everything to run like clockwork is probably not realistic. First you have to set up all the distribution chains necessary. Then you have to set up all the tracking of the vaccine. Every single vial has to be accounted for. Every single vial you have to know where it went, who got the dose, when they got the dose. That has to all be managed so everyone gets the 2 shots they are supposed to in the timeframe they are supposed to.

 

It's a huge logistical lift.

 

The Pfizer vaccine in particular has some supply chain hurdles to deal with. First, the amount of dry ice (which is the solid form of carbon dioxide) necessary is incredible. Dry ice producers are actually already running into shortages with all the orders coming in (some of this is due to the pandemic itself as one of the primary pipelines for dry ice is ethanol and with reduced driving there was reduced demand for ethanol which meant less excess CO2 for companies to sell to make dry ice). Second, due to the limited amount of time it can be stored that vaccine has be used quickly or it goes to waste. 

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, RamblinRed said:

Was watching a doctor on TV last night and this was her biggest concern. She was asked when she thought we would be able to resume 'normal' life and her answer was that if everything went right and there were no hiccups then by next summer.

 

Her concerns were largely with logistics. How do we get from producing it to getting it injected in someone's arm. Basically we are looking at the largest vaccination program in US history (this obviously goes for the rest of the world as well) and expecting everything to run like clockwork is probably not realistic. First you have to set up all the distribution chains necessary. Then you have to set up all the tracking of the vaccine. Every single vial has to be accounted for. Every single vial you have to know where it went, who got the dose, when they got the dose. That has to all be managed so everyone gets the 2 shots they are supposed to in the timeframe they are supposed to.

 

It's a huge logistical lift.

 

The Pfizer vaccine in particular has some supply chain hurdles to deal with. First, the amount of dry ice (which is the solid form of carbon dioxide) necessary is incredible. Dry ice producers are actually already running into shortages with all the orders coming in (some of this is due to the pandemic itself as one of the primary pipelines for dry ice is ethanol and with reduced driving there was reduced demand for ethanol which meant less excess CO2 for companies to sell to make dry ice). Second, due to the limited amount of time it can be stored that vaccine has be used quickly or it goes to waste. 

 

Kind of ironic is this day and age that a shortage of CO2 is an issue.

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 hours ago, Maggie said:

My God, the traveling people are insane. Thanksgiving and next is Christmas. By next year half of America will have Corona

Lemmings rushing to the ocean comes to mind....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

almost 1,000 deaths on a Monday. 7 day avg jumps over 1,500, Hospitalizations up to almost 86K

 

The ones piece of good news is that the positivity rate is down some and 7 day cases flat.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The 22 day lagged CFR appears to be rising rather than falling as we see more recent data, up to almost 1.9% now. 
 

Could be noise, could be seasonal, could be healthcare system getting stressed. Latter 2 will only intensify. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quantas saying they will be changing their terms and conditions so people flying internationally won't be able to board their planes without a vaccination certificate.

 

I think a lot of airlines will be doing this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, AndyK said:

Quantas saying they will be changing their terms and conditions so people flying internationally won't be able to board their planes without a vaccination certificate.

 

I think a lot of airlines will be doing this.

I see a biiig market for fake certificates ^^

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ted Cruz is accusing Fauci and the scientest of trying to take Thanksgiving away from the Amercan people.'

God, I hate people like this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Guidelines. Feel free to read our Privacy Policy as well.