DAJK Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, VENOM said: It’s doing worse than BOP and costed twice as much to make so yeah surprisingly strong It was universally panned to the point it became a meme, yet still will come close to a 3.5x multiplier. I’d say it coulda done much worse. Obviously it’s not a good performance overall, but it could easily have fallen off a cliff after opening weekend 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, DAJK said: It was universally panned to the point it became a meme, yet still will come close to a 3.5x multiplier. I’d say it coulda done much worse. Obviously it’s not a good performance overall, but it could easily have fallen off a cliff after opening weekend BB3 is looking at 3.2x+ (200+ dom) multi with the same release date, as a sequel and from less leg-friendly genre. So 3.4-3.5x for Dolittle after a low ow is not great imo. Apart from already in release Jumanji there wasn't competition and most movies are showing great holds. Nevertheless will agree that it could have potentially faded faster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 58 minutes ago, a2k said: 83% Verified RT score after 3,850+ ratings. Not good at all. Verified RT has been inflated compared to unverified score as it is for almost all movies. Like with gauging quality on the Maoyan scale movies shouldn't really fall below mid-80%s. Meh. I think that’s just nit picking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ledmonkey96 said: I don't think it's quite that simple. Rather than the movie being WOKE it's the marketing that's WOKE. BoP was marketed/pushed in a way that made people think they were trying to be WOKE with the movie. This has been the case with a lot of movies recently tbh, that's not to say that movies aren't trending more that way but for every Ghost busters (Goes woke does poorly) you've got a Tomb Raider (doesn't go woke, does at best average) which of course leads people to the wrong conclusion Ghost busters did poorly because they attempted to redo a classic without any of the old characters, just switching all the MC's genders was a secondary issue that got a lot of buzz, Tomb Raider did poorly because well it's a video game movie at the end of the day, unless it is freakishly amazing it'll get a resounding meh. At the first sign of trouble some of these movies jump straight towards the SJW handbook for why they are failing which just creates a snowball effect such that when the dust settles people assume that SJWness was the main reason rather than a scapegoat for frankly sloppy writing/plotting in a movie. This is so underrated. It's really marketing, and in many cases not even studio marketing, but media that insist something is woke, when it really isn't trying to be, cause that gives media clicks. And it works like a clock in the following scenario: an unappealing looking movie that happens to be headlined by women and/or minorities flops the main cause for floppage is unappealing previews media condemns men or white audience for ignoring the movie due to sexism/racism even though women/minorities didn't bother with the trash looking flick (whether it's actually trash or not, it didn't look worth a penny in their eyes going by trailers, spots, etc which is how most people decide whether to watch something or not) Media creates clickbait narrative that goes something like this "toxic [male, white] audience rebels against a woke movie" without caring for the fact that the movie was rejected by all demos Likewise, if a movie headlined by women and/or minorities succeeds, media pushes for clickbait narrative that it's the end of traditional [male, white] lead and that the only reason a movie succeeded is because it's woke. There's usually no narrative of any kind when traditional lead movie either bombs or succeeds save /ourguy/ Scott's attempt to blame Solo bomb on the male hero Edited February 9, 2020 by Valonqar 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Heatnix Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I think the whole thing is very simple. Many people just weren't interested in the movie at all. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said: I think the whole thing is very simple. Many people just weren't interested in the movie at all. this but that won't stop clickbaits. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, a2k said: BB3 is looking at 3.2x+ (200+ dom) multi with the same release date, as a sequel and from less leg-friendly genre. So 3.4-3.5x for Dolittle after a low ow is not great imo. Apart from already in release Jumanji there wasn't competition and most movies are showing great holds. Nevertheless will agree that it could have potentially faded faster. BOP has Doolittle doing $6.6m for a $63.899m total. Even with Sonic coming out $80m looks likely, maybe even $85m. So a 3.66 -3.89x off a holiday weekend is quite good even for a family film. For a movie with a 15% RT score it's rather extraordinary. I wonder what's the leggiest wide release movie with a sub 20% RT score is? The last Ice Age comes to mind. 18% with a 2.994 Edit: Has to be a Christmas movie. Assassins Creed even had a 5x over Christmas. So Christmas excluded. Edited February 9, 2020 by TalismanRing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: The last Ice Age comes to mind. 18% with a 2.994 I keep on forgetting there was a fifth Ice Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, YourMother the Edgelord said: I keep on forgetting there was a fifth Ice Age. It's probably for the best and looking at the drop in B.O. you're far from alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yandereprime101189 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, ChipMunky said: LOL you're not going to see the Harley Quinn film in theaters. You think they're going to give you more of these films now? LOL I'm fine with that. Warner didn't even give us half the DC films they announced. I only really care about Aquaman and Wonder Woman anyway. And hell, we were supposed to get Gotham City Sirens FIRST before they decided to skip over it with this. Edited February 9, 2020 by Yandereprime101189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: I wonder what's the leggiest wide release movie with a sub 20% RT score is? Emoji Movie had a 3.51x multi with a 7% RT score. Edited February 9, 2020 by cookie 1 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: I wonder what's the leggiest wide release movie with a sub 20% RT score is? Emoji Movie did well 3.5x with 7% Cats 4x with 20% Edited February 9, 2020 by charlie Jatinder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Emoji Movie did well 3.5x with 7% Cats 4x with 20% This is why we cant have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Yandereprime101189 said: I'm fine with that. Warner didn't even give us half the DC films they announced. I only really care about Aquaman and Wonder Woman anyway. Same. I'm trying to get excited for non-Nolan Batman but it's hard. I also hope they don't do Joker sequel because I'm not sure they could capture the lightning in the bottle again and I don't want anything to devalue Joaquin's iconic turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Playmobil had 17% RT and had a matching matching 1.7x multi. Date Rank Gross % Change Theaters Per Theater Total Gross Week Dec 6, 2019 14 $656,530 2,337 $281 $656,530 1 Dec 13, 2019 23 $143,735 -78% 1,458 $99 $966,458 2 Dec 20, 2019 35 $24,423 -83% 66 $370 $1,087,636 3 Dec 27, 2019 50 $5,668 -77% 25 $227 $1,100,824 4 Jan 3, 2020 50 $6,448 +14% 25 $258 $1,113,885 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 hours ago, DAJK said: Dolittle's been chugging along surprisingly strong. I mentioned yesterday somewhere that I think it's really drawing strongly in the under 12 and female all ages (3-103) category. As I said when I saw it, it's a tight story that will make everyone happy...and that's great for legs...and it doesn't hurt to have RDJ...for those who complained about his contract, he is earning it, since many folks after open said it was certain to go under $60M...and now it seems certain for $80M+... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhuvan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: I mentioned yesterday somewhere that I think it's really drawing strongly in the under 12 and female all ages (3-103) category. As I said when I saw it, it's a tight story that will make everyone happy...and that's great for legs...and it doesn't hurt to have RDJ...for those who complained about his contract, he is earning it, since many folks after open said it was certain to go under $60M...and now it seems certain for $80M+... Dolittle will actually do good in ancillary market. Not saying that this will become a hit but positive feedback from audience who watched it helps in ancillary. Many movies like Dolittle find a good life in streaming. Not a big failure overall. RDJ should do Sherlock Holmes movie next. People love him in that role. Sherlock Holmes 3 has potential do 800m+ WW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhuvan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Sequels that will be big hit if done properly : National Treasure 3 Sherlock Holmes 3 Harry Potter 8 Twilight new movie. ( They can easily continue the story forward) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisawesome Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Valonqar said: This is so underrated. It's really marketing, and in many cases not even studio marketing, but media that insist something is woke, when it really isn't trying to be, cause that gives media clicks. And it works like a clock in the following scenario: an unappealing looking movie that happens to be headlined by women and/or minorities flops the main cause for floppage is unappealing previews media condemns men or white audience for ignoring the movie due to sexism/racism even though women/minorities didn't bother with the trash looking flick (whether it's actually trash or not, it didn't look worth a penny in their eyes going by trailers, spots, etc which is how most people decide whether to watch something or not) Media creates clickbait narrative that goes something like this "toxic [male, white] audience rebels against a woke movie" without caring for the fact that the movie was rejected by all demos Likewise, if a movie headlined by women and/or minorities succeeds, media pushes for clickbait narrative that it's the end of traditional [male, white] lead and that the only reason a movie succeeded is because it's woke. There's usually no narrative of any kind when traditional lead movie either bombs or succeeds save /ourguy/ Scott's attempt to blame Solo bomb on the male hero And to give examples of this from just last year alone, Charlies Angels, Little Women and Book Smart. No one showed up to Charlies Angels at all. Little Women was still a big hit yet how many think pieces where there? And it kind of was smart to keep audiences away from Book Smart because if more people saw that movie the WOM would have exposed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Madhuvan said: Sequels that will be big hit if done properly : National Treasure 3 Sherlock Holmes 3 Harry Potter 8 Twilight new movie. ( They can easily continue the story forward) Matrix 4 is more likely to be a hit than all of those. Sherlock 3 sounds like a bomb tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
