Krissykins Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Firepower said: Peter Travers gave it 2/5, so it's a no for me. He's one of the few US critics I respect. Even Pete Hammond is barely positive and he usually loves everything. Oh wow: this is a big yikes. I would never avoid a film based on someone else‘s opinion. I obviously like to make my own mind up lol. Entertainment is subjective and I have a far more unique tastes than the general public. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, FunkMiller said: This is a shame. I like Robbie, and would have liked to have seen this do well. I guess the audience has a longer memory than some think. Suicide Squad was awful, and people haven’t forgotten that. BoP follows the aesthetic of that film way more than I thought it would. I suppose if you’re going to consciously not market your film at the key demographic for comic book films, then it’s probably not a surprise if they don’t turn out for it. A few weeks ago in the first demographics, males over 25 were most interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, Krissykins said: A few weeks ago in the first demographics, males over 25 were most interested. But overall, if you're looking at pure "showing up numbers", even if they were most interested, many of the 25+ men in the normal "show up to comic movies" aren't showing up, either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: But overall, if you're looking at pure "showing up numbers", even if they were most interested, many of the 25+ men in the normal "show up to comic movies" aren't showing up, either... Oh whoops I haven’t seen any demographics from last night yet, can you share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKillswitch123 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, LOGAN'sLuckyRun said: For those of you here who blame the marketing. What was so bad about it and how would you have changed it? The trailers were bizarrely edited. They made the movie look like an awkward and choppy Suicide Squad sequel-ish that centered on Harley. Get the team that cut the SS trailers (which were awesome) to do the trailers for this, and if this was the same team, give them whatever they were on in 2016. More focus on the balls to the walls action and the beautiful cinematography, as well as the fact that this is the 1st live action female superhero team-up movie. Also, put the movie out there! SS was EVERYWHERE. Birds Of Prey felt extremely lacking in presence. WB were lazy in their exposure of the movie. Not even a Super Bowl spot for a movie that released the week after SB. The amount of marketing for this resembled the shocking lack of push that Shazam had much more so than the massive pushes for most other DCEU films. Granted, no chance would this movie have the same hype as those, but still, at least try with your damn marketing. And maybe don't title the movie "Birds Of Prey (And etc. etc.)" when it's very clear that it's a Harley movie featuring the Birds Of Prey. "Harley Quinn And The Birds Of Prey" would be a better and more marketable title. This is obviously not a big factor, but it always helps to have the most marketable title possible. Yeah, Harley is technically in the title, but the whole subtitle of the film is either a meme or a flat out ignore for most people. Finally, DON'T LET GO OF THE REVIEW EMBARGO 2 DAYS BEFORE RELEASE. The moment you realized social media reactions were good, you should've pushed the embargo lift to Saturday/Sunday latest. Some things were beyond control, like the fact that this was a SS spin-off. But still, could've turned out better. Edited February 7, 2020 by MCKillswitch123 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanos13 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Some are acting like BOP is $150M+ blockbuster just because it's a DC film. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Oh whoops I haven’t seen any demographics from last night yet, can you share? I don't have them yet...but we know preview numbers...and by preview vs Suicide Squad, even if men 25+ were 100% of the audience for BoP last night, they'd be under the amount that showed up to SS previews... Now, some of that was expected...but it was an example that if 25+ men were the most interested demo 2 weeks ago for BoP, they just weren't as interested in this one as in other regular supers...at least not enough to show up in similar numbers... Edited February 7, 2020 by TwoMisfits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) @TwoMisfits Smith was an absolutely huge factor in the boxoffice so SS2 is bound to drop at least OS without him. Your numbers show that. Edited February 7, 2020 by Valonqar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOGAN'sLuckyRun Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said: Not even a Super Bowl spot for a movie that released the week after SB. WB straight up REFUSES to do SB ads (even pre game) unless it's something sponsored like BvS/Turkish Airlines or WW84/Tide. I mean, I understand why, it's super expensive but you still have a point. It could've helped. I felt the same way about The Lego Movie 2 last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, TwoMisfits said: I don't have them yet...but we know preview numbers...and by preview vs Suicide Squad, even if men 25+ were 100% of the audience for BoP last night, they'd be under the amount that showed up to SS previews... Now, some of that was expected...but it was an example that if 25+ men were the most interested demo 2 weeks ago, they just weren't as interested in this one as in other regular supers...at least not enough to show up in similar numbers... Ah you just mean a lower audience number. Yeh I was never expecting anything close to SS. Plus, that film didn’t have a good reception. WB were expecting $45m according to Deadline and THR. So I think they knew it would be a smaller audience. Hence the smaller budget and smaller marketing spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Hopefully wom is really good and pushes a strong preview multiplier. It's seem like a fun movie many would like. Edited February 7, 2020 by cdsacken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseOfTheSun Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I hope a deadshot movie is in the future with Will. Dude is clearly still a huge draw and would be a smash hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Krissykins said: Oh wow: this is a big yikes. I would never avoid a film based on someone else‘s opinion. I obviously like to make my own mind up lol. Entertainment is subjective and I have a far more unique tastes than the general public. I totally agree with you here and usually ignore other reviews if I'm interested in the film. But when I'm not really interested/sure, I'm looking for opinions of some folks I more or less trust to decide. I just don't trust RT no matter if it's positive or negative. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 $4m previews. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alli Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 7 1 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alli Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 40M OW is in danger, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Sub 35mn? 4 9 12 8 // 33 33 * 2.8 : 92 Theatrical Share will be 45mn Approx from Dom. Will need $100mn overseas just for recovering budget. There will be $100mn release cost as well. Need really good legs. Edited February 7, 2020 by charlie Jatinder 3 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, Alli said: 40M OW is in danger, right? Yeh, Shazam’s multi would get it to $38.7m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Well. That means what it means. I was still holding out some small hope it would go like, 5.2x8.8 or something, but... 40M is dead. 100 OS OW dead. 100M DOM total very in question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alli Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, Alli said: IMDb’s Most-Anticipated Movies of 2020 , ladies and gents One flop down, two to go! way to go, imdb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
