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[WittyUsername]

9 hours ago, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. Gone with the Wind

2. The Hunt

3. Gemini Man

4. Birds of Prey

5. The Invisible Man

6. Bad Boys for Life

7. Judy

8. Sonic the Hedgehog

9. Spies in Disguise

10. Scoob!

 

Amazon

1. Trolls World Tour

2. Scoob!

3. Knives Out

4. Bloodshot

5. The Greatest Showman

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Bad Boys for Life

9. The Gentlemen

10. Grown Ups 2

[EarlyDeadlinePredictions]

9 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

Never forget.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/07/14/grown-ups-pacific-rim-box-office/2514973/

[lorddemaxus]

nvm

Edited June 12, 2020 by lorddemaxus

[Eric Atreides]

8 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:

I have a feeling @Eric Atreides's source might be wrong. This website has a different list of films that's much closer to the films on Amazon: https://www.google.com/amp/www.popvortex.com/amp/movies/top-movies.php

 

And this was an image of the top 1-8 (the film above The Hunt is GWTW) taken yesterday from the app itself: 

 

Something always seemed off about the Apple list posted here and I guess I now know why. Makes sense why BoP, The Invisible Man, and The Hunt never made it onto the Apple list and why Bloodshot is always on it. 

I don't get what you're going off on here.

 

1. Birds of Prey, Invisible Man and Hunt are on the Apple right now. Are you talking about Amazon?

 

2. If you are talking about Amazon, how does this prove the Amazon list is off? The link you're showing says iTunes Top Movies. iTunes is a part of Apple. It doesn't say "iTunes & Amazon". It doesn't say "Digital Top Movies."

 

3. Looking at the link you shared, it is almost identical to what is currently on the iTunes charts. The only omissions is that King of Staten Island and Trolls 2 are removed for some reason in the link, which are currently #1 and #15 respectively, and that says a lot about their accuracy, and the only other difference is that Sonic and Trading Places are in two different positions. How does this prove in any way my sources are wrong? The only differences to what you may see on the chart I post is just in the fact both Amazon and Apple update every hour.

 

4. If you want to know what my sources are, for Apple, it's the iTunes app on my computer. I think it's Apple TV on Apple devices, but that's where it is. I boot up the app every day to look at the charts.

 

Amazon is this link right here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Movies-TV-Amazon-Video/zgbs/movies-tv/2958933011

 

You have to go a bit farther since it combines TV, but this is what I tally.

 

In both instances, I'm literally using the actual app and link made by Apple and Amazon respectively to tally and look over this stuff. That's pretty good sources if you ask me. Does that fully explain the massive discrepancy? No. I wish I could give an answer here. But frankly mah boi, I think what I'm doing right now is A-OK, since the link you shared is just for iTunes/Apple, and I'm using direct sources, or at least as direct of a source as I possibly can.

 

Of course as I say all that...man, I wish there was some firm or source or whatever that actually had access and could tally VOD sales and revenue. It would really make my job so much easier

[lorddemaxus]

8 minutes ago, Eric Atreides said:

I don't get what you're going off on here.

 

1. Birds of Prey, Invisible Man and Hunt are on the Apple right now. Are you talking about Amazon?

 

2. If you are talking about Amazon, how does this prove the Amazon list is off? The link you're showing says iTunes Top Movies. iTunes is a part of Apple. It doesn't say "iTunes & Amazon". It doesn't say "Digital Top Movies."

 

3. Looking at the link you shared, it is almost identical to what is currently on the iTunes charts. The only omissions is that King of Staten Island and Trolls 2 are removed for some reason in the link, which are currently #1 and #15 respectively, and that says a lot about their accuracy, and the only other difference is that Sonic and Trading Places are in two different positions. How does this prove in any way my sources are wrong? The only differences to what you may see on the chart I post is just in the fact both Amazon and Apple update every hour.

 

4. If you want to know what my sources are, for Apple, it's the iTunes app on my computer. I think it's Apple TV on Apple devices, but that's where it is. I boot up the app every day to look at the charts.

 

Amazon is this link right here: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Movies-TV-Amazon-Video/zgbs/movies-tv/2958933011

 

You have to go a bit farther since it combines TV, but this is what I tally.

 

In both instances, I'm literally using the actual app and link made by Apple and Amazon respectively to tally and look over this stuff. That's pretty good sources if you ask me. Does that fully explain the massive discrepancy? No. I wish I could give an answer here. But frankly mah boi, I think what I'm doing right now is A-OK, since the link you shared is just for iTunes/Apple, and I'm using direct sources, or at least as direct of a source as I possibly can.

 

Of course as I say all that...man, I wish there was some firm or source or whatever that actually had access and could tally VOD sales and revenue. It would really make my job so much easier

I'm fucking blind and I should stop typing shit when I'm still half-asleep. Sorry for the trouble. I got confused between both lists and thought the Amazon list was the itunes list. Appreciate you doing the lists everyday btw.

[RealLyre]

yeah i love those lists too, i'm just trying to find a correlation about the differences between the two (besides the occasional discounts)

 

 

[Eric Atreides]

On 6/12/2020 at 12:31 AM, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. Gone with the Wind

2. The Hunt

3. Gemini Man

4. Birds of Prey

5. The Invisible Man

6. Bad Boys for Life

7. Judy

8. Sonic the Hedgehog

9. Spies in Disguise

10. Scoob!

 

Amazon

1. Trolls World Tour

2. Scoob!

3. Knives Out

4. Bloodshot

5. The Greatest Showman

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Bad Boys for Life

9. The Gentlemen

10. Grown Ups 2

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. The Hunt

4. Scoob!

5. The Invisible Man

6. Gone with the Wind

7. Dark Waters

8. Bad Boys for Life

9. Birds of Prey

10. Judy

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Knives Out

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Sonic the Hedgehog

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

[charlie Jatinder]

In India, Disney is about to shake the exhibition sector. So far Amazon and Netflix announced some medium films, but Disney+ will be going with 2-4 big films and other medium stuff.

Disney+ Hotstar releases which will be announce on Tuesday as per reports.

 

Fox Star Films (Disney own)

1. Laxmi Bomb
2. Dil Bechara
3. Lootcase
4. Sadak 2

Panorma Films (Acquired in at least $20-25mn)

1. Bhuj
2. Khuda Hafiz
3. The Big Bull
4. Ezra

Maddock Films (Acquired in at least $15mn)

1. Mimi
2. Shiddat
3. Roohi Afzana

Edited June 13, 2020 by charlie Jatinder

[Krissykins]

7 hours ago, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. The Hunt

4. Scoob!

5. The Invisible Man

6. Gone with the Wind

7. Dark Waters

8. Bad Boys for Life

9. Birds of Prey

10. Judy

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Knives Out

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Sonic the Hedgehog

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

I find it interesting that the lists are so different most of the time. Guess it’s promos and deals. 

[CoolioD1]

whew gemini man at number 2. the re-evaluation of Ang Lee's masterpiece begins.

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. The Hunt

4. Scoob!

5. The Invisible Man

6. Gone with the Wind

7. Dark Waters

8. Bad Boys for Life

9. Birds of Prey

10. Judy

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Knives Out

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Sonic the Hedgehog

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. The Hunt

4. Dark Waters

5. The Invisible Man

6. Scoob!

7. Judy

8. Bad Boys for Life

9. The Great Outdoors

10. Birds of Prey

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Bombshell

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

[grim22]

19 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

In India, Disney is about to shake the exhibition sector. So far Amazon and Netflix announced some medium films, but Disney+ will be going with 2-4 big films and other medium stuff.

Disney+ Hotstar releases which will be announce on Tuesday as per reports.

 

Fox Star Films (Disney own)

1. Laxmi Bomb
2. Dil Bechara
3. Lootcase
4. Sadak 2

Panorma Films (Acquired in at least $20-25mn)

1. Bhuj
2. Khuda Hafiz
3. The Big Bull
4. Ezra

Maddock Films (Acquired in at least $15mn)

1. Mimi
2. Shiddat
3. Roohi Afzana

Of these, I would only call Laxmi Bomb and Sadak 2 as big movies which had a good chance at the box office. Dil Bechara is the Fault In Our Stars one IIRC, that one sounded like a bad idea since it was announced.

 

Sadak 2 is the big surprise for sure because it is the return of both Mahesh Bhatt and Pooja Bhatt, which could have been a big marketing angle for it.

 

Netflix's Indian content is horrible. Sacred Games S1 was the only thing that worked, and they pissed that away with Season 2. Recently they lost to Amazon Prime twice when they released Bard of Blood same day as Family Man, and Betaal same day as Paataal Lok. The less said about Netflix's Indian originals the better. They really need to invest in quality control for their indian content. Amazon Prime has the best Indian catalogue across languages, pretty much every major Kannada, Tamil, Telugu and Malayalam movie gets on there, and their hindi collection isn't bad either.

[charlie Jatinder]

1 hour ago, grim22 said:

Of these, I would only call Laxmi Bomb and Sadak 2 as big movies

Sadak 2, well I think it's only positive is Alia Bhatt. 

Bhuj stars Ajay Devgn. 

Roohi Afzana is supposedly Stree universe film.

 

[Eric Atreides]

On 6/14/2020 at 12:22 AM, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. The Hunt

4. Dark Waters

5. The Invisible Man

6. Scoob!

7. Judy

8. Bad Boys for Life

9. The Great Outdoors

10. Birds of Prey

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Bombshell

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. Dark Waters

4. The Hunt

5. The Invisible Man

6. Scoob!

7. Bad Boys for Life

8. Judy

9. The Great Outdoors

10. Birds of Prey

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Bombshell

7. Sonic the Hedgehog

8. Jumanji: The Next Level

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

[filmlover]

Have to laugh at a movie that ends with a disclaimer that basically says "we're all fucked" climbing the Apple chart throughout the weekend with everything going on in the real world.

 

Judy also slaying too. Renee and Garland and @Cap continue winning!

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. Dark Waters

4. The Hunt

5. The Invisible Man

6. Scoob!

7. Bad Boys for Life

8. Judy

9. The Great Outdoors

10. Birds of Prey

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Bombshell

7. Sonic the Hedgehog

8. Jumanji: The Next Level

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. Dark Waters

4. The Hunt

5. Scoob!

6. The Invisible Man

7. Bad Boys for Life

8. Spies in Disguise

9. Judy

10. Birds of Prey

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Bombshell

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

[Eric Atreides]

On 6/16/2020 at 12:24 AM, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. Dark Waters

4. The Hunt

5. Scoob!

6. The Invisible Man

7. Bad Boys for Life

8. Spies in Disguise

9. Judy

10. Birds of Prey

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. Trolls World Tour

4. The Greatest Showman

5. Bloodshot

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. Bombshell

9. The Gentlemen

10. Bad Boys for Life

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. 1917

4. Dark Waters

5. Sonic the Hedgehog

6. The Hunt

7. Ip Man 4: The Finale

8. The Invisible Man

9. Spies in Disguise

10. Scoob!

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. The Greatest Showman

4. Trolls World Tour

5. Bloodshot

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. The Gentlemen

9. Grown Ups 2

10. Bad Boys for Life

[Eric Atreides]

On 6/17/2020 at 12:36 AM, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Gemini Man

3. 1917

4. Dark Waters

5. Sonic the Hedgehog

6. The Hunt

7. Ip Man 4: The Finale

8. The Invisible Man

9. Spies in Disguise

10. Scoob!

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. The Greatest Showman

4. Trolls World Tour

5. Bloodshot

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. The Gentlemen

9. Grown Ups 2

10. Bad Boys for Life

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. 1917

3. Charlie's Angels

4. Ip Man 4: The Finale

5. Sonic the Hedgehog

6. Dark Waters

7. The Invisible Man

8. The Hunt

9. Spies in Disguise

10. Twister

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. The Greatest Showman

4. Trolls World Tour

5. Bloodshot

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. The Gentlemen

9. Grown Ups 2

10. Bad Boys for Life

[Eric Atreides]

23 hours ago, Eric Atreides said:

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. 1917

3. Charlie's Angels

4. Ip Man 4: The Finale

5. Sonic the Hedgehog

6. Dark Waters

7. The Invisible Man

8. The Hunt

9. Spies in Disguise

10. Twister

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. The Greatest Showman

4. Trolls World Tour

5. Bloodshot

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. The Gentlemen

9. Grown Ups 2

10. Bad Boys for Life

Apple

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Charlie's Angels

3. You Should Have Left

4. Glory

5. 1917

6. Ip Man 4

7. Sonic the Hedgehog

8. The Invisible Man

9. Spies in Disguise

10. Twister

 

Amazon

1. The King of Staten Island

2. Scoob!

3. The Greatest Showman

4. Bloodshot

5. Trolls World Tour

6. Sonic the Hedgehog

7. Jumanji: The Next Level

8. The Gentlemen

9. Grown Ups 2

10. Bad Boys for Life

[RealLyre]

charlie's angels is currently 1$ to rent on itunes/google play, so it makes sense that it's trending higher here.          

 

btw @Eric Atreides do you know where to see the daily/weekly best selling movies on google play? the "most popular" tab seem to have the same movies for weeks so im not sure if it's legit.