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23 hours ago, jimisawesome said:

 

There is going to be a lot of 'safety theater' for a while both as pure theater and because the current science does not make it down to this level.  So yeah I just don't see any surviving theater chain allowing full capacity until at least Nov at the earliest even if by some miracle we basically end it by July.   They will want to be seen as being overly safe for the customers.  They will also likely lose a showing per screen too in order to be able to do the deep clean to again show they are overly safe.

 

The major grocery store chain by me still has a couple of employees at the entrance to show they are cleaning each cart despite the evidence being it does not easily via touching.  But, this is the type of info that is still believed and even medical sites still have on as a way of a common transmission.   So because this is believed this kind of action is going to continue to take place for a while.  

 

My wife is still one who even though she reads all of the stuff on COVID, doesn't trust that you can't get it from touch (which is true, you can get it from touch, just more likely to get it through the air) so she won't even think of going anywhere where she doesn't see significant ongoing cleaning. She is also concerned that part of the reason for the UK variant may be that it is more able to translate through touch than previous variants. (Obviously we have no study of that yet either way). But, I doubt i will be able to get my wife to go to a move theater for at least another 12-18 months, frankly I don't think I will get her to go anywhere inside with groups of people (restuarants, arenas, stores) for at least 12-18 months. I'm the only one in the family currently who will go to a store and almost all our shopping that is not done completely online is curbside pickup.

 

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https://deadline.com/2021/01/open-roads-liam-neeson-pic-the-marksman-takes-3-7m-at-mlk-weekend-box-office-1234675393/

 

The Marksman $3.2M 3 day/$3.7M 4 day

The Croods $2M 3 day/$2.9M 4 day

Wonder Woman $2.6M 3 day / around $3M 4 day (the $2.7M 4 day has to be an old number before WB updated)

 

Edit to Add:  This was a VERY nice deal to theaters from WB - "Some smaller exhibitors (non-chain) tell us that their terms for the HBO Max-theatrical releases are good at roughly 55% in their favor, to Warner’s 45%." 

 

Edit #2 - Adding the whole chart (again, I think WW 4 day has to be off)...

 

 

Top 10 chart:

1.) The Marksman (Open) 1,975 theaters/3-day: $3.2M/4-day: $3.7M/Wk 1

2.) Croods: A New Age (Uni) 1,855 theaters (+37), 3-day: $2M (+13%)/4-day: $2.9M/Total: $40.1M/Wk 8

3.) Wonder Woman 1984 (WB) 2,201 theaters (-17)/$2.6M (-13%)/4-day: $2.7M est./Total: $35.9M/Wk 4

4.) News of the World (Uni) 1,953 theaters (-33), 3-day: $1.05M (-15%)/4-day: $1.27M/Total: $8.7M/Wk 4

5.) Monster Hunter (Sony) 1,694 theaters (-71), 3-day: $920K (-16%)4-day: $1.09M/Total: $9.2M/Wk 5

6.) Fatale (Lionsgate) 1,175 theaters (-47), 3-day: $530K (-19%)/4-day: $630K/ Total: $4.8M/Wk 5

7.) Promising Young Woman (Focus) 1,333 theaters (-115), 3-day: $430K (-24%)/4-day: $518K/ Total: $3.4M/Wk 4

8.) Master (Tamil & Telugu) 130 theaters/3-day: $206K/4-day: $251K/Wk 1

9.) Emperor’s New Groove (Dis) 744 theaters, 3-day: $169k/4-day: $239K/Total: $89.6M/Wk 1,049

10.) The War With Grandpa (101) 422 theaters (+37), 3-day: $155K (even) 4-day: $200K/Total: $19.2M/Wk 15

 

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The Croods 2 looks to go above $45M despite the fact it's been available on PVOD for a month now. Honestly had it come out in Tenet's September spot when more theaters were open and things were looking slightly optimistic it might have legged it out to a $100M+ total (but didn't because it wasn't ready yet at the time).

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What are the real WW84 numbers? Exhibitor Relations is the only one I'm seeing with the $1.9 million 3-day number for WW84. But Variety and THR both say the $2.6 million reported by WB is for the 4-day, while Deadline has it for the 3-day. It seems more likely that Deadline is wrong.

 

 

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To note - money's already been offered to independent venues in the UK (and the US relief package has the same terms), this is specifically pushing for AMC/Odeon, Cineworld/Regal, Vue...

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No Time to Die has been pushed to October.

Morbius moves to Jan 2022

Peter Rabbit 2 to June,

Cinderella to July ,

Ghostbusters to Nov

Unchartered to Feb 2022

 

Will be interesting to see if BW holds its spot or if it eventually moves as well. Same for Raya.

 

How long into 2021 will it be before Studios start feeling comfortable releasing films?

 

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8 minutes ago, RamblinRed said:

No Time to Die has been pushed to October.

Morbius moves to Jan 2022

Peter Rabbit 2 to June,

Cinderella to July ,

Ghostbusters to Nov

Unchartered to Feb 2022

 

Will be interesting to see if BW holds its spot or if it eventually moves as well. Same for Raya.

 

How long into 2021 will it be before Studios start feeling comfortable releasing films?

 

Raya is a simultaneous Disney+ Premier Access title for early March so its box office run has already been written off. Said in the No Time to Die thread that everyone is just taking the "better safe than sorry" route at this point by going as far into the future as they can since it's impossible to market a movie in the current climate of states closed and high daily numbers for cases/deaths so depending on how things are looking by the time April/May get here we might see movies get pushed up if things start to show major signs of improvement.

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I hope Disney has some epidemiologically smart analysts in their scheduling department. All their movies are on good dates with good release plans atm, and are slightly better off than they were 24 hours ago with the competition moving. Making any big moves in the next 6 weeks would be lunacy.

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Release Calendar Update :-

 

Right.  We are long overdue for an update on the current state of things and I'll let the changes do the talking because it's not a pretty picture (unless you like the colours ;) )

 

So to give you an idea according to BOM there is only 1 film so far that has opened wide in January and only 1 more expected to open wide (it's a Warner Bros Release).  Right now the only films staying put are those releasing day and date with their streaming releases (pretty much WB).  February is looking pretty sparse too.  March is a very slight improvement but really is driven by the day and date releases with streaming services.  I'm not going beyond that but it's starting to not look good for anything up to April and who knows where will be by then.

 

EDIT : AQP2, the kings man, morbius among others have all shifted.  Also adding April given the lack of releases now gracing that month.  Added Spongebob's CBS all access release date.

 

Upcoming Releases - Changes due to COVID

** Changes in bold

[] = Pre-COVID release month.

Orange = PVOD / streaming - either day or date or exclusive

 

Released 08-14-2020 [August 2020] - Unhinged (Solstice)

Released 08-21-2020 [August 2020] - Words on Bathroom Walls (Roadside)

Released 08-28-2020 [April 2020] - The New Mutants (Fox)

Released 08-28-2020 [May 2020] - The Personal History of David Copperfield (Fox Searthlight)

Released 08-28-2020 (PVOD day and date)* [August 2020] - Bill & Ted Face the Music (United Artists)

Released 09-03-2020 [July 2020] - Tenet (Warner Bros)

Released 09-04-2020 Disney+ Premium [March 2020] - Mulan (Disney)

Released 09-11-2020 [July 2020] - The Broken Hearts Gallery (Sony)

Released 09-18-2020 [September 2020] - Infidel

Released 09-18-2020 *PVOD* [April 2020] - Antebellum (Lionsgate)

Released 09-25-2020 Select Cinemas / October 16, 2020 *Netflix* [September 2020]- The Trial of Chicago 7 (Paramount)

Released 10-09-2020 - Aggie (Strand)

Released 10-09-2020 [September 2020] - The War with Grandpa (101)

Released 10-09-2020 *PVOD* [August 2020] - Trump Card (Cloudburst)

Released 10-16-2020 [September 2020] - Honest Thief

Released 10-16-2020 [September 2020] - 2 Hearts (Freestyle)

Released 10-23-2020 [August 2020] - The Empty Man (Fox)

Released 10-30-2020 - Come Play (Focus)

Released 11-06-2020 [August 2020] - Let him go (Focus)

Released 11-13-2020 - Freaky (Universal) *PVOD on December 4*

Released 11-20-2020 - Vanguard (Gravitas)

Released 11-25-2020 [September 2020] - The Croods: A New Age (Universal) *PVOD oln December 25*

Released 12-04-2020 - Half Brothers (Focus)

Released 12-18-2020 *PVOD* [June 2020] - Greenland (STX)

Released 12-18-2020 [September 2020] - Monster Hunter (Screen Gems)

Released 12-18-2020 [October 2020] Fatale (Lionsgate)

Released 12-25-2020 [December 2020] - News of the World (Universal)

Released 12-25-2020 [June 2020] - Wonder Woman 1984 (Warner Bros) *HBO Max (Day & Date)*

Released 12-25-2020 December 25, 2020 - Pinnocchio (Roadside)

Released 12-25-2020 - Promising Yoiung Woman (Focus)

Released 12-25-2020 *Disney+ Streaming* [November 2020] - Soul (Disney)

Released 01-15-2020 - The Marksman (Open Road)

 

January 29, 2021 [January 2020] - The Little Things (Warner Bros) *HBO Max (Day & Date)*

 

February 12, 2021 - Land (Focus)

February 26, 2021 [March 2021] - Tom and Jerry (Warner Bros)

February 2021 *CBS All Access* [July 2020] - The Spongebob Movie: Sponge on the Run *Released 2020-08-14 in Canada*

 

March, 5, 2021 [January 2021] - Chaos Walking (Lionsgate)

March 5, 2021 - Boogie (Focus)

March 5, 2021 [March 12, 2021] - Raya and the Last Dragon (Disney) *Disney+ Premium (Day & Date)*

March 5, 2021 *Amazon Prime* [December 2020] - Coming 2 America (Paramount) 

March 19, 2021 - The unbearable Weight of Massive Talent (Lionsgaste)

March 19, 2021 [February 2021] - The Courier (Roadside)

March 26, 2021 [November 2020 -> May 2021] - Godzilla vs. Kong (Warner Bros) *HBO Max (Day & Date)*

 

April 2, 2021 [August 2020 -> February 2021] - Nobody (Universal)

April 16, 2021 [April 2021] - Fatherhood (Sony)

April 16, 2021 [January 2020] - Mortal Kombat (Warner Bros)

April 23, 2021 - The Asset (Lionsgate)

 

[there are 2 unknown titles on BOM in April, but i suspect they are carryvovers the changes just made so will likely disappear]

 

Other Changes beyond April 2021

Black Widow (Disney) - May 2020 ->  May 7, 2021

Rumble (Paramount) - January 2020 -> May 14, 2021

Free Guy (Fox) - July 2020 -> December 2020 -> TBC 2021 -> May 21, 2021

F9 (Universal) - April 2020 -> May 28, 2021

The Conjuring: The Devel made me do it (Warner Bros) - September 2020 -> June 4, 2021 *HBO Max (Day & Date)*

Samaritan (United Artists) - November 2020 -> June 4, 2021

Peter Rabbit 2: The Runaway (Sony) - April 2020 -> April 2, 2021 -> June 11, 2021

 

Top Gun: Maverick - December 2020 -> July 2, 2021

The Forever Purge - Removed -> July 9, 2021

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (Disney) - February 2021 ->  May 7, 2021 -> July 9, 2021

Cinderalla (Sony) - February 5, 2021 -> July 16, 2021

Deep Water (Fox) - November 2020 -> August 13, 2021

Don't Breathe Sequel - -> August 13, 2021

Respect - December 2020 -> August 13, 2021

BIOS (Universal) - April 2021 -> August 13, 2021

The King's Man (Fox) - March 12, 2021 [September 2020] -> August 20, 2021

Candyman (Universal) - October 2020 -> August 27, 2021

Death on the Nile (Fox) - October 2020 -> December 2020 -> TBC 2021 -> September 17, 2021

The Boss Baby: Family Business (Universal) - March 2021 -> September 17, 2021

A Quiet Place Part II (Paramount) - September 2020 -> April 23, 2021 -> September 17, 2021

 

No Time to Die (MGM) - April 2020 -> April 2021 -> October 8, 2021

The Last Duel - December 2020 -> October 15, 2021

Halloween Kills (Universal) - October 2020 -> October 15, 2021

Snake Eyes: GI Joe Origins (Paramount) - October 2020 -> October 22, 2021

Last night in Soho (Focus) - April 2021 -> October 22, 2021

Dune (Warner Bros) - December 18, 2020 -> October 2021 *HBO Max (Day & Date)*

Clifford and Big Red Dog (Paramount) - November 2020 -> November 5, 2021

The Eternals (Disney) - November 2020 ->  November 5, 2021

Ghostbusters: Afterlife (Sony) - July 2020 -> June 2021 -> November 11, 2021

West Side Story (Fox) - December 2020 -> December 10, 2021

Untitled Spider-Man Far Home Sequel (Sony) - July 2021 -> December 17, 2021

 

Saint Maud (A24) - April 2020 -> TBC 2020 -> TBC 2021

Stillwater (Focus) - November 2020 -> TBC 2020 -> TBC 2021

Connected (Sony) - September 2020 -> TBC 2020 -> TBC 2021

Happiest Season (Tristar) - November 2020 -> TBC 2020 -> TBC 2021

Escape Room 2 (Sony) - April, 2020 -> TBC, 2021

Voyagers (Lionsgate) - November, 2020 -> TBC 2021

The Comeback Trail (Cloudburst) - November 2020 -> TBC 2021

The Devil's Light - January 2020 -> January 2021 -> TBC 2021

Everybody's Talking About Jamie (Fox) - October 2020 -> February 26, 2021 -> TBC 2021

The Bad Guys (Universal) - September 2021 -> TBC 2021

Bob's Burgers: The Movie (Fox) - April 2021 -> TBC 2021

 

Morbius (Columbia) - March 2021 -> October 8, 2021 -> January 21, 2022

What about love (JPLSD) - February 12, 2021 -> February 11, 2022

Uncharted (Sony) - July 2021 -> February 11, 2022

Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness - May 2021 -> March 25, 2022

Thor: Love and Thunder (Disney) - November 2021 -> February 11, 2022 -> May 6, 2022

Blank Panther II (Disney) - May 2022 -> July 8, 2022

Captain Marvel II (Disney) - July 2022 -> November 11, 2022

Legally Blonde 3 - May 2020 -> May 20, 2022

Halloween Ends (Universal) - October 2021 -> October 14, 2022

Ron's Gone Wrong (Fox) - April 2021 -> October 22, 2022

Bablyon (Paramount) - January 2022 -> January 6, 2023

 

Fantastic Beasts 3 - November 2021 -> TBC 2022

Tomb Raider 2 - March 2021 -> TBC 2022

Fast & Furious 10 (Universal) - April 2021 -> TBC 2022

Avatar Sequels Delayed by 12 months

Star Wars new Films delayed by 12 months

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And AQP goes to Sep 17.   
 

This is getting pretty silly at this point, Apr 16 could have been a fine date and it’s not like they were going to have to start marketing soon. Might as well wait and see how things are looking a month from now (hint — will be very different from now). More of a herd mentality going on than good business sense. I am still optimistic that Disney will hope the line.

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47 minutes ago, WandaLegion said:

And AQP goes to Sep 17.   
 

This is getting pretty silly at this point, Apr 16 could have been a fine date and it’s not like they were going to have to start marketing soon. Might as well wait and see how things are looking a month from now (hint — will be very different from now). More of a herd mentality going on than good business sense. I am still optimistic that Disney will hope the line.

it's updated above now.  I've added April as it appears that most studios have now fled spots all the way out to the end of April.  no major blockbusters until may that aren't releasing day and date with streaming services.,......

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1 hour ago, WandaLegion said:

And AQP goes to Sep 17.   
 

This is getting pretty silly at this point, Apr 16 could have been a fine date and it’s not like they were going to have to start marketing soon. Might as well wait and see how things are looking a month from now (hint — will be very different from now). More of a herd mentality going on than good business sense. I am still optimistic that Disney will hope the line.

I think it's well-documented over the years that studio execs ain't the sharpest tools in the shed.

 

But hey, Disney will probably keep all their movies in the same spot...since y'know, Premier Access is a thing. >_>

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I mean, I think the prevailing mood here is too optimistic in general. Many of the bigger states are gonna need to do a lot more before opening everything up. And no one wants to miss out on CA theaters again. I think it makes sense to push everything into the summer (or later) unless it’s a smaller release where theatrical isn’t as vital. 

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17 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

I mean, I think the prevailing mood here is too optimistic in general.

The prevailing mood here is too pessimistic for sure. I might personally be too optimistic but I’m very far away from the prevailing mood — I just post a whole lot 😛   
 

 

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22 minutes ago, Eric Gardner said:

But hey, Disney will probably keep all their movies in the same spot...since y'know, Premier Access is a thing.

Yeah, having hybrid Premier Access is a real boon for them. Can just keep the dates, and make a decision about hybrid vs pure theatrical fairly close to release when they have better info.

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17 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

I mean, I think the prevailing mood here is too optimistic in general. Many of the bigger states are gonna need to do a lot more before opening everything up. And no one wants to miss out on CA theaters again. I think it makes sense to push everything into the summer (or later) unless it’s a smaller release where theatrical isn’t as vital. 

This.

 

With the big movie states still shut down with no concrete date for reopening there's no hope trying to mount an expensive marketing campaign for anything. Makes sense that the only movies coming out the next two months are ones that have already announced to be doing hybrid releases.

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11 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

I mean, I think the prevailing mood here is too optimistic in general. Many of the bigger states are gonna need to do a lot more before opening everything up. And no one wants to miss out on CA theaters again. I think it makes sense to push everything into the summer (or later) unless it’s a smaller release where theatrical isn’t as vital. 

Agreed. The majority of people won’t have received their second vaccine dose by April, and there will be plenty who are still waiting for their first. I know that the first jab gives the highest percentage of immunity after 2-3 weeks and the second dose is more of a booster, but it’s still a bad idea to be trying to cram people into movie theatres for blockbusters in April when taking that into account.

 

In the UK we’ve been warned that lockdown measures aren’t likely to change much before Easter, and with our government potentially delaying the second dose by up to 12 weeks, there’s people who have received the first jab already that may not have received their second dose by mid-April.

 

The studios aren’t being silly here, they’re being responsible and realistic. I can’t see things getting noticeably better until June/July, and that’s dependant on everything going right, which is clearly not something that the studios want to bank on and risk another WW84 style performance.

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