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BOT's Top Animated films of all time Deadline: July 12th for super realsies this time.

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Gave shoutouts to films that might not be on many other lists.

 

1. The Prince of Egypt
2. Spirited Away
3. The Incredibles
4. Wall-E
5. Akira
6. Beauty and the Beast
7. How to Train Your Dragon
8. Princess Mononoke
9. The Iron Giant
10. The Lion King
11. Ratatouille 
12. Frozen
13. Neon Genesis Evangelion: The End of Evangelion
14. Coraline
15. Zootopia
16. Maquia: When the Promised Flower Blooms
17. Kung Fu Panda
18. The Tale of Princess Kaguya
19. Persepolis
20. Toy Story 3
21. Finding Nemo
22. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
23. A Silent-Voice
24. Inside Out
25. The Wind Rises
26. Kubo and the Two Strings
27. Rango
28. Bambi
29. Ponyo
30. Surf's Up
31. Toy Story 2
32. Yellow Submarine
33. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
34. Aladdin
35. The Peanuts Movie
36. Kung Fu Panda 2
37. Coco
38. A Nightmare Before Christmas
39. The LEGO Movie
40. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
41. The Little Mermaid
42. In this Corner of the World
43. Tangled
44. The Fox and the Hound
45. Your Name
46. Over the Hedge
47. The Last Unicorn
48. Shrek
49. My Life as a Zucchini
50. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
51. Song of the Sea
52. Up
53. How to Train Your Dragon 2
54. The Polar Express
55. Despicable Me
56. Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
57. Ghost in the Shell
58. Cars
59. Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie
60. Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted
61. Steamboy
62. Monsters Inc.
63. Wolfwalkers
64. Isle of Dogs
65. Pocahontas
66. Treasure Planet
67. Shrek 2
68. Watership Down
69. The Spongebog Squarepants Movie
70. ParaNorman
71. Chicken Run
72. Madagascar
73. Kill It and Leave This Town
74. Mirai
75. How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
76. Puss in Boots
77. Castle in the Sky
78. Toy Story
79. Corpse Bride
80. I Lost My Body
81. The Emperor's New Groove
82. On-Gaku: Our Sound
83. Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga-Hoole
84. When Marnie Was There
85. Monster House
86. The Breadwinner
87. Charlotte's Web (1973)
88. The Aristocats
89. The Croods
90. The Great Mouse Detective
91. Wizards
92. Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron
93. Rise of the Guardians
94. Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
95. The Nose or the Conspiracy of Mavericks
96. The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything: A VeggieTales Movie
97. Leafie, A Hen into the Wild
98. Tarzan
99. The Trumpet of the Swan
100. Robots

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Top 25 for now, I'll fill in the rest later. Got about a dozen films I'm going to try and watch before the deadline.

  1. Beauty and the Beast
  2. Princess Mononoke
  3. Zootopia
  4. Wall-E
  5. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
  6. Coco
  7. Whisper of the Heart
  8. Spirited Away
  9. Moana
  10. The Tale of the Princess Kayuga
  11. The Wind Rises
  12. Grave of the Fireflies
  13. How To Train Your Dragon
  14. Porco Rosso
  15. The Incredibles
  16. Wolfwalkers
  17. My Neighbor Totoro
  18. Kiki's Delivery Service
  19. Frozen
  20. Finding Nemo
  21. Castle in the Sky
  22. Big Hero 6
  23. Up
  24. The Lion King
  25. Song of the Sea
     
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I'm assuming stop motion is allowed. Here's my list. 

 

 

1The Lion King (1994 original)

2Princess Mononoke (1997)

3Toy Story 3

4WALL-E

5Shrek 2

6The Incredibles

7Incredibles 2

8Toy Story 1

9Finding Nemo

10Spirited Away (2001)

11Up

12Aladdin

13Beauty and the Beast

14Shrek

15Kiki's Delivery Service (1989)

16Wallace and Gromit

17Inside Out

18Ratatouille

19Shaun the Sheep Movie

20Howl's Moving Castle (2004)

21Castle in the Sky (1986)

22Monsters, Inc.

23Finding Dory

24Ponyo (2008)

25Monsters University

26Toy Story 4

27Despicable Me

28Brave

29Zootopia

30Frozen

31Sword in the Stone (1963)

32Moana

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My vote:

 

1.     Peter Pan

2.     101 Dalmatians

3.     Pinocchio

4.     Aladdin

5.     Robin Hood (Disney)

6.     The Nightmare Before Christmas

7.     Beauty and the Beast

8.     The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh

9.     Dumbo

10.  Fun and Fancy Free

11.  Ducktales The Movie: Treasure of the Lost Lamp

12.  Cinderella

13.  Tangled

14.  Lady and the Tramp

15.  Sleeping Beauty

16.  Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

17.   The Princess and the Frog

18.  Wreck-It Ralph

19.   The Fox and the Hound

20.  Bambi

21.  The Lion King

22.  The Little Mermaid

23.  Frozen

24.  Toy Story

25.   Monsters Inc.

26.  Toy Story 3

27.  The Jungle Book

28.   Finding Nemo

29.   Fantasia

30.  The Incredibles

31.   Toy Story 2

32.   Monsters University

33.  Toy Story 4

34.  Onward

35.   Up

36.   Zootopia

37.   Wall-E

38.   Ratatouille

39.   Alice in Wonderland

40.   The Sword in the Stone

41.  The Great Mouse Detective

42.  The Rescuers Down Under

43.   Winnie the Pooh (2011)

44.   Cars

45.   Bolt

46.   Incredibles 2

47.   Frozen 2

48.   The Rescuers

49.   Big Hero 6

50.  Inside Out

51.   Finding Dory

52.   The Tigger Movie

53.   Piglet’s Big Movie

54.   Pooh’s Heffalump Movie

55.   Frankenweenie

56.   A Goofy Movie

57.   Brave

58.   Lilo and Stitch

59.   Mulan

60.   Pocahontas

61.   The Hunchback of Notre Dame

62.   Make Mine Music

63.  Tarzan

64.  Shrek Forever After  

65.  The Simpsons Movie

66.   Moana

67.   Oliver and Company

68.   A Bug’s Life

69.   The Aristocats

70.   The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad

71.  Hercules

72.  Ralph Breaks the Internet

73.  Coco

74.  Raya and the Last Dragon

75.   Planes

76.  The Three Caballeros

77.  Saludos Amigos

78.   Cars 2

79.   Fantasia 2000

80.   The Emperor’s New Groove

81.   Planes: Fire and Rescue

82.  Cars 3

83.   Treasure Planet

84.   Atlantis: The Lost Empire

85.   Dinosaur

86.   Meet the Robinsons

87.   The Black Cauldron

88.   Brother Bear

89.   Home on the Range

90.   Chicken Little

91.   The Good Dinosaur

92.   Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs

93.   The Peanuts Movie

94.    South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut  

95.    Jetsons: The Movie

96.   The Land Before Time

97.   Beavis and Butthead Do America

98.   Team America: World Police

99.   An American Tale

100.          Hotel Transylvania

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Just letting you know that you only have 1 week left  to send in a list before the mandatory one week deadline extension kicks in,

 

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13 hours ago, El Squibbonator said:

I think 100% CGI films should be eligible regardless of whether they "recognize themselves as animated" or not. Animation is animation no matter how it's used, and if the whole movie is animated, IT IS AN ANIMATED MOVIE. 


I'm personally thankful photorealistic CGI animation is being excluded from the list, and I'm not particularly concerned about the exact reasoning that excludes it. Even if the term "animation" technically encompasses photorealistic CGI, I think "cartoon" vs. photorealism is a much more important distinction from the viewer's perspective.

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It's animation, regardless of what it looks like. Are you saying that, just because a movie crosses an arbitrary line into realism, it suddenly stops being animated? Think about it. Toy Story is an animated film. So is Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. So is South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut. And so is The Nightmare Before Christmas. All of those movies are made using wildly different techniques, but we classify them all as animated films.

 

Why should a film that uses CGI to approximate live-action be excluded? To put it another way, the 2019 remake of The Lion King is far more similar to Toy Story, in terms of its production technique, than it is to the original The Lion King. And in turn, the original The Lion King and its remake have more in common with each other than either does with a live-action film. To say that the original The Lion King and Toy Story are animated and The Lion King remake is not, when they are more similar than different, is inaccurate. Also, you allow stop-motion and puppets on the list, despite those two methods of filmmaking having far more in common with live action than any sort of CGI does. 

And a final point to consider. There have been hand-drawn animated films that aim to be photorealistic as well (A Scanner Darkly, for example). How come these are acceptable, but an equivalent CGI film is not? It's hypocritical and smacks of selective bias. As I said before, there is a wide variety of techniques we group together under the umbrella of "animation", and you can't just arbitrarily eliminate one of them when they all have so much in common. 

 

The 2019 remake of The Lion King is an animated film. That's all there is to it. 

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1 hour ago, El Squibbonator said:

It's animation, regardless of what it looks like. Are you saying that, just because a movie crosses an arbitrary line into realism, it suddenly stops being animated?


I believe I made it abundantly clear that I understood that The Lion King (2019) was made by a frame-by-frame animation technique. I don't think there is anyone else who doesn't understand this either.

Technique just isn't nearly as relevant from the perspective of a viewer than the appearance of the final product. A Scanner Darkly may not be caricatured but it is unmistakeably hand-drawn. When a film appears photorealistic to the the point that an audience can't distinguish it from live-action footage, that crosses an important line that really isn't arbitrary.

Regardless of technique, whether it be hand-drawn, stop-motion, or CGI, animation that clearly appears as such can take all kinds of liberties with appearances, facial expressions, physics, colours etc. that would look absurd if it were photorealistic to the point of appearing to be live-action. That's why it makes sense to group together all of those and exclude photorealistic CGI.

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It may look like live-action, but the fact remains that it is not. Even the "casual viewers" of whom you speak obviously understand that Disney did not film talking lions in real time. That would have been impossible. They know this movie isn't really live-action, because no matter how "realistic" it looks, it still depicts things and events that can't be done in real life. Lions, meerkats, and warthogs can't talk and sing, and real animals can't make the poses and expressions of the ones in the movie. I don't think anyone seriously believes that the Lion King remake was filmed in live-action, talking animals and all. 

 

It's also hypocritical on Disney's part for them to promote it as live-action. The 2000 movie Dinosaur is officially included in the Disney Animated Canon-- which is to say, the line of movies produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios-- but it is a combination of live-action backgrounds and photorealistic CGI characters. But Disney considers it an animated movie regardless. In the remake of The Lion King, everything, backgrounds included, is CGI, so it arguably has more right to be called an animated movie than Dinosaur does. Yet Disney doesn't call it one. One could argue that, since there are obviously no dinosaurs around today, playing the "live-action" card with Dinosaur wouldn't work. But that's besides the point. The point is that one of these photorealistic CGI movies is referred to by its studio as an animated movie, and the other is not. 

 

There is one final point to consider, and it is probably the most important one of all. Regardless of what they look like, these films were made by animators. They were the result of hundreds of thousands of collective man-hours of computer work, modeling these characters. This is the same process that goes into movies from the likes of Pixar and DreamWorks, and no matter what you think of the Lion King remake, to see this technique used in such a way is astonishing.

 

So referring to these movies as "live-action" erases the efforts of the animators-- many of them underpaid, working for bare minimum wages-- who poured their lives into creating them. These people deserve credit for their role in bringing photorealistic movies to life. The least we could do is acknowledge the work of these animators, and call these movies what they are-- animated. 

 

TL;DR: Saying only certain animated movies deserve to be called animated movies isn't respecting animation as a medium. It's a middle finger to it. 

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@chasmmi sent my list. I decided to keep my list at 70 films. 

1. Spirited away 

2. Graves of the fireflies. 

3. Finding Nemo

4. Zootopia

5. Your Name

6. Spiderman into the spiderverse

7. Toy Story 3

8. Inside out

9.  Triple of Belleville

10. Waltz with Bashir

11. Snow white and the 7 drawf

12, Toy Story 2

13 .Toy Story

14. My neighbor totoro

15. Ratatouille

16. A silent voice

17. Castle in the sky

18. The Croods

19. Monster Inc

20. Frozen

21. Doraemon: Nobita in the Wan-Nyan Spacetime Odyssey

22. How to train your dragon

23. The prince of Egypt

24. Chicken Run

25. Akira

26. Pokemon the movie : The power of one

27. Up

28. Monster University

29. Shrek

30. Aladdin

31. Raya and the Dragon

32.  The tale of princess kaguya

33. Wreck-It Ralph

34. Persepolis

35. Cinderella 

36.  Millennium actress

37. The Little Mermaid

38. The wind rises

39. Mulan

40. Pokemon Movie : Mewtwo strikes back

41 Doremon : Stand by Me

42. A cat in paris

43. Soul

44. Coco

45.How to train your dragon : the hidden world

46. Isle of Dogs

47. Wall-e

48. Tangled

49. Anomalisa

50.  Boy and the World

51. Howl's Moving Castle

52. My life as Zuchinni

53. The Lion King (1994)

54. Incredibles 2

55. I lost My body

56. Demon Slayer : Mugen Train

57. Moana

58. Finding Dory

59. Incredible

60. Fantastic Mr. Fox 

61. Kiki's delivery Service

62. Weathering with you

63. The Good Dinosaur

64. Sing

65. Home

66. Ponyo

67. The secret world of arriety

68. The Sausage party

69. Song of the sea

70. Brave

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