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MEMORIAL DAY 2021 WEEKEND THREAD | AQP2 19.3 Fri, Cruella 7.7 | SALE: $5 OFF FIRST MONTH OF GOLD

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BE QUIET

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BE CRUEL

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It’s Memorial Day Weekend here in the US. It’s a very special time indeed for us yanks. A time where we honor and celebrate those who served and died for our country and a time where families come together and appreciate one another. But most important of all, Memorial Day Weekend means barbecue cookouts, incredible deals on mattresses and going to the movies to see the latest hits.

 

We’ve all had incredible memories about this magical weekend at the multiplex. Like the day Star Wars debuted, changing cinema forever. Or perhaps when Alien opened and shocked the world with its chest-bursting horror. Or the time when Temple of Doom opened and shocked the world with its chest-bursting horror. 

 

There was also The Last Crusade earning the biggest opening weekend of all time, Lethal Weapon 3 hitting a series high, The Flintstones doing live-action remakes before they were cool, Mission: Impossible taking Tom Cruise to the next level, The Lost World earning the biggest opening weekend of all time, Bruce Almighty making Jim Carrey God, The Day After Tomorrow showing the evils of climate change, X-Men: The Last Stand taking the series to financially amazing and critically disastrous heights, Pirates 3 maintaining a record still held almost 15 years later, Crystal Skull giving us the glorious return of Indy, Fast & Furious 6 continuing the franchise’s meteoric rise, Days of Future Past breathing new life into X-Men, and Aladdin becoming Will Smith’s biggest box office hit, just to name a few.

 

But despite all the win, the shine and glory of Memorial Day weekend has taken a beating. With the summer season arriving earlier and earlier, it became harder and harder for this weekend to stand out. This has unfortunately led to such box office stinkers as Terminator: Salvation, Prince of Persia, Sex and the City 2, Tomorrowland, Poltergeist, Alice Through the Looking Glass, and Solo, to name just a few. And it seemed for a while that Memorial Day lost its luster. It was just another weekend in a box office season full of weekends.

 

However, 2021 is a bit different. For the first time in decades, Memorial Day is serving as the major kick-off to the summer movie season. In a surprise move, Papa Feige shocked everybody and graciously left his first weekend of May slot. And while a Guy Ritchie movie and the latest Saw reboot came in early May, they aren’t really the sexy, exciting tentpoles people want to see. So this year, two very different movies have the distinction of kicking off a new summer movie season after last year took a hiatus. And hopefully both movies will handle the challenge.

 

A Quiet Place Part II, fresh off the breakout success of the first movie, was one of the first movies hit by the COVID lockdowns. But now it’s scheduled to be one of the first major pieces to get people back into the multiplex. The movie promises to be an exciting look at a world where humanity is dying and trying to put things back together...okay, that didn’t sound right. Either way, the popularity and intrigue from the last movie should help excite and bring the masses into one more spooky adventure.

 

At the same time, Cruella became a viral sensation when its first trailer dropped. Folks are eager to see Emma Stone play one of the iconic Disney baddies in what looks to be a fresh interpretation of the 1961 animated classic, detailing the origin story of the iconic villainess with a passion for fashion. Whether it be at the movies or at home on Disney+ via Premier Access

 

Alongside Spiral, Wrath of Man, and other leftovers, you can’t really go wrong with this weekend.

 

In a way, this is perhaps the most important box office weekend of the year. Arguably the most important in modern history. After over a year of lockdowns and futile attempts to reinvigorate movie theaters, this weekend is the beginning of a flood of exciting new releases all throughout this summer. In the Heights, F9, Black Widow, Space Jam, Jungle Cruise, Suicide Squad, Free Guy, Paw Patrol. And while a bad performance won’t necessarily mean doom and gloom for the next few weeks, some strong performances would signal a lot of good things. A sign people are ready to head to the movies. A sign that the theatrical exhibition will remain alive and well. A sign to the general public it’s safe to go back and you can’t miss out. A sign that our box office hobby will live to see another day.

 

This weekend, and this summer in general, is perhaps the most crucial litmus test the film industry has ever had to deal with. And while people like to pretend they know what’s going on, it’ll be a while before we really see what this summer represents in the long term. But as we go into this new beginning, we can at least have a little bit of fun in the moment and discuss all things Queen Blunt, Queen Stone, and Queen Thompson.

 

Of course, you can’t have any fun until we have rules set in place. So...

 

1. ABSOLUTELY NO SPOILERS. NOT EVEN SPOILERS POSTED UNDER SPOILER TAGS. This rule is applied to all weekend threads, but it's especially true for this weekend. People bought tickets for Quiet Place 2 14 months ago! Cruella is actually not a retread of the animated movie! And sadly, because this pandemic is still a bitch and a half, not everybody will have a chance to see it right away. So please be careful about what you say.

 

This also applies to other movies in theaters and films/shows recently releasing on streaming or VOD. So no Wrath of Man spoilers, no Spiral spoilers, no Army of the Dead spoilers, no Bad Batch spoilers, etc. You are free to give general opinions, but try to avoid going into any further detail. If you do spoil something here, you will be banned. No exceptions. Don't be a dick.

 

2. KEEP YOUR AGENDA OUT OF HERE. We get it. Movie theaters are dead forever. Everybody predicting the end of theatrical business is an idiot. Streaming is a disease. Woke critics don't understand real movies. Marvel is the greatest film series ever created and all other franchises are below it. Disney/Marvel is destroying cinema and Kevin Feige/Bob Chapek/Kathleen Kennedy is the spawn of Satan. Warner Bros. is destroying cinemas with their HBO Max deal. James Cameron is the true king of the box office. Yadda yadda yadda.

 

There's a time and place for these kinds of statements...actually, there isn't. But at the very least, it doesn't belong here. If you want to start these beefs related to all of these dumb children's movies, go somewhere else. This website would be so much better off with that bullshit gone in the first place. If you do this kind of stuff here, you will be banned. No exceptions. Not gonna name names, but you know who you are. Don't be a dick.

 

3. CURB YOUR POLITICS. In threads like these, politics often spring up for literally no reason. And straight up, politics just aren’t fun to talk about. So unless it’s truly relevant to the conversation...no. Don't be a dick.

 

4. THE REPORT AND IGNORE BUTTONS ARE YOUR FRIENDS. See a post that’s breaking the rules? DO NOT RESPOND TO IT. Just hit the Report button, give an explanation to the problem, including the context, then hit "Submit". We the mods will determine the post and see if it's breaking the rules and give out repercussions. See a poster that's consistently being annoying? Then just highlight their name and click "Ignore User" on the pop-up. It'll save lives and hopefully cause less of an uproar or infighting. While trolls are already bad, responding to them only makes it worse. So again...Don't be a dick.

 

5. IS OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION OKAY? Well...yes and no. We want people to stick to box office numbers as best as they can. However, there are plenty of dead periods of time with no new numbers. So off-topic discussions are okay to have at these times, so long as they don't impede numbers discussion. So if there's no action, and you want to brag about your barbecue skills, talk about Olivia Rodrigo’s debut album, or rank your favorite 90s Nickelodeon shows, that's totally fine. Just remember that when the numbers come up to keep those discussions down to a minimum. Keep on doing that, and it becomes a chore for many who just want to know the numbers. Don't. Be. A. Dick.

 

And lastly...

 

6. DON'T BE A DICK. Sometimes things get hostile among users. Whatever the reason may be, if you're not following any of these rules or are straight up not being nice, you're going to get the banhammer smashed onto you. Concern trolling? Banned. Revealing that Cruella De Vil kills Dumbledore? Banned. Just posting something unpleasant or mean? Banned. And if you're unsure if you can handle being nice for one weekend, then, simply put, get out of here. You probably know what I'm gonna say next.

 

TL;DR. No spoilers, no fanboy wars. Keep it nice, keep it neutral, don't attack others, and you'll be fine. If you don't do this stuff, you'll risk a threadban, a suspension, or even a permanent ban, so tread lightly. Outside of that, just have fun! 

 

And two last things,

 

First off, this thread will likely lean into being more domestic-focused. If you want to know about how A Quiet Place Part II and/or Cruella is doing in other countries, look at the International section of the forums right here.

 

Second, 

 

WE’RE HAVING A SALE

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Since the box office has been dead, we’ve seen a decline in donations, the thing that keeps these forums alive. And while we understand finances are tight for many here, we do encourage people to donate and become premium members if they can. Every dollar helps keep the lights on and will make the forum bigger and better than ever once the industry is fully (and hopefully) back in swing. We will update this section when the sale goes live shortly.

 

And now...

 

WITHOUT FURTHER ADO

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Predictions based on our tracking in the buzz thread:

 

A Quiet Place:

18M Friday (4.5M Previews)

17M Saturday (-5%)

17M Sunday (-)

13.5M Monday (-20%)

52M 3 Day, 65.5M 4 Day

 

Cruella:

3.2M Friday (700k previews)

3M Saturday (-5%)

3M Sunday (-)

2.5M Sunday (-15%)

9.2M 3 Day, 11.7M 4 Day

 

Walkups will be an important factor for both films. AQP has precedence for being walkup friendly, but Cruella doesn't based on other Disney remakes/sequels. It also doesn't help that Cruella lacks family appeal.

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24 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Predictions based on our tracking in the buzz thread:

 

A Quiet Place:

18M Friday (4.5M Previews)

17M Saturday (-5%)

17M Sunday (-)

13.5M Monday (-20%)

52M 3 Day, 65.5M 4 Day

 

Cruella:

3.2M Friday (700k previews)

3M Saturday (-5%)

3M Sunday (-)

2.5M Sunday (-15%)

9.2M 3 Day, 11.7M 4 Day

 

Walkups will be an important factor for both films. AQP has precedence for being walkup friendly, but Cruella doesn't based on other Disney remakes/sequels. It also doesn't help that Cruella lacks family appeal.

Cruella < Raya domestically, possible?

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50M for AQP2 for the three day weekend is my wish.

 

Now, what about legs? Could the movie be frontloaded? The vaccinated people who are fans of the movie theater experience  are going back to the theaters first weekend, i assume. What does it mean for legs?

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24 minutes ago, LegendaryBen said:

Cruella < Raya domestically, possible?

If WOM for Cruella is bad, possibly. I imagine In the Heights will hurt it a bit in two weeks since older audiences that don't go to horror films will have a larger title to see.

 

4 minutes ago, Maggie said:

50M for AQP2 for the three day weekend is my wish.

 

Now, what about legs? Could the movie be frontloaded? The vaccinated people who are fans of the movie theater experience  are going back to the theaters first weekend, i assume. What does it mean for legs?

I'm thinking around a 3.2-3.4x. A lot of people don't realize the movie is out yet, and with a quiet ( :sparta:) June, WOM can gradually build.

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3 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

 

 

I'm thinking around a 3.2-3.4x. A lot of people don't realize the movie is out yet, and with a quiet ( :sparta:) June, WOM can gradually build.

I'm liking what you're saying. I hope it does at least 150M. Krasinski saving theaters. Nolan, who? hahha

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2 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

It's recovery.

It will be lucky to do half of that. Also, I am guessing everyone will see Cruella at home either on D+ or Torrent.

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1 hour ago, LegendaryBen said:

Cruella < Raya domestically, possible?

It is a movie that looks like a straight-to-D+ concept...so, it's possible...

 

Months ago, I asked who is the audience for this movie...nothing I've seen changes that.  Worse, the audience most likely to see it (25+ female) is probably also most likely to stream it, so while I may not go as low as the predictions for the weekend, well, I sure wouldn't go high...

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Man, Krasinski sitting here knowing that not only does he have millions of dollars of studio money resting on his movie, but the entire Hollywood film industry has their eyes on him. How his movie performs could really affect the future of this industry, for better or worse.

 

 

 

No pressure man.

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7 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Man, Krasinski sitting here knowing that not only does he have millions of dollars of studio money resting on his movie, but the entire Hollywood film industry has their eyes on him. How his movie performs could really affect the future of this industry, for better or worse.

Nah, this isn't gonna be that important of a movie lol.

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16 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Nah, this isn't gonna be that important of a movie lol.

 

I agree it isn't the "be all end all" but it is extremely important. It's the first tentpole release since Tenet that isn't going straight to a streaming service on day one. If this movie overperforms, then it is more likely that studios start pushing their movies theatrically a lot harder over the summer. If it underwhelms, then a lot probably won't change, but I'd imagine more studios will double down on their day/date streaming release plans.

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22 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Nah, this isn't gonna be that important of a movie lol.

Agreed as long as 2021 puts up some what respectable numbers as a whole, then the vast majority of the big 2022 movies will have a 45 day window of theatrical exclusivity and if anything the late 2021 movies that do have the 45 day window or more such as Shang-Chi, Venom 2, Top Gun Maverick, Spider-Man, Eternals, No Time to Die etc. matter infinitely more than AQPII.

 

Also ties into my club that I think this year domestic box office is under $5.5B but rebounds next year back to over $11B which would be a normal 2015-2019 year at the box office (although that is helped by having a 2018 type slate of blockbusters.)

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