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he might be working 16 hours a day but those hours are on a2. this is a Robert rodriguez movie.

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3 minutes ago, Avatree said:

he might be working 16 hours a day but those hours are on a2. this is a Robert rodriguez movie.

Only because you write something on the internet doesnt make it the truth, you know? Theres more evidence to suggest the contrary, that James Cameron is unusually deeply involved in this project for a "mere" producer. All evidence points towards that Alita is a shared creative project between Rodriguez and Cameron.

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4 minutes ago, Avatree said:

he might be working 16 hours a day but those hours are on a2. this is a Robert rodriguez movie.

Tree what do you think Jim's involvement is on this project?

 

 

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10 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Don't underestimate Jim.

 

He works 16 hours a day, energy levels of a terminator.

 

and Alli it ain't a mystery, he literally told us he was working on Avatar during the days, alita at nights and terminator 6 on weekends

 

If someone splits their times that much(if true), something will suffer for it, I'd rather he just focus all his efforts on Avatar.  

 

Especially if he has to take someone time to work on fucking T6, lol.  Fuck that movie.

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51 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

28th

 

and I'm not nervous at all. Only thing I'm nervous about is my bet with Deep Wang which will be hard if Alita opens to $100m.

They pushed the embargo up three days?

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what's amusing about your predictions that this will have 5-7x legs or whatever crazy number you're saying - if there's one thing in common with Rodriguez films, they have no staying power, regardless of how well liked / how high they open.

 

OW Multis of every single ROdriguez films not aimed at children:

 

Sin City 2(2014) - 2.18x

Machete Kills(2013) - 2.09x

Machete(2010) - 2.33x

Grindhouse/Deathproof (2007) - 2.16x

Sin City(2005) - 2.55x

Once Upon a Time in Mexico(2003) - 2.41x

The Faculty(1998) - 3.46x

From Dusk till Dawn(1996) - 2.53x

Desperado(1995) - 3.22x

 

 

He has not had a film have better than terrible legs, in over 20 years.

 

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Just now, Deep Wang said:

If someone splits their times that much(if true), something will suffer for it, I'd rather he just focus all his efforts on Avatar.  

 

Especially if he has to take someone time to work on fucking T6, lol.  Fuck that movie.

you underestimate Jim's power (there's another for you)

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1 minute ago, Rorschach said:

They pushed the embargo up three days?

Don't remember it ever being the 25th

 

That Paul Shirley guy said it was the 28th

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Just now, IronJimbo said:

Don't remember it ever being the 25th

 

That Paul Shirley guy said it was the 28th

No I thought it was the 31st?

 

 

Either way, the earlier the better.

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2 minutes ago, Avatree said:

what's amusing about your predictions that this will have 5-7x legs or whatever crazy number you're saying - if there's one thing in common with Rodriguez films, they have no staying power, regardless of how well liked / how high they open.

 

OW Multis of every single ROdriguez films not aimed at children:

 

Sin City 2(2014) - 2.18x

Machete Kills(2013) - 2.09x

Machete(2010) - 2.33x

Grindhouse/Deathproof (2007) - 2.16x

Sin City(2005) - 2.55x

Once Upon a Time in Mexico(2003) - 2.41x

The Faculty(1998) - 3.46x

From Dusk till Dawn(1996) - 2.53x

Desperado(1995) - 3.22x

 

 

He has not had a film have better than terrible legs, in over 20 years.

 

Jim really is incredible to help a struggling director unlocked his inner potential.


His touch is truly something, RR has had it in him the whole time and he's about to unleash

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There hasn't been any more "leaks" about the quality of the movie on social media?

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6 minutes ago, Crainy said:

Only because you write something on the internet doesnt make it the truth, you know? Theres more evidence to suggest the contrary, that James Cameron is unusually deeply involved in this project for a "mere" producer. All evidence points towards that Alita is a shared creative project between Rodriguez and Cameron.

What do you mean "more than a 'mere' producer" ? A producer role is not a light role, it is heavy involvement with a film. It varies from film to film and within that, different producers have different amounts of involvement.

But ultimately the director, in charge of the production itself (i.e. the filming), was Robert Rodriguez. no matter how heavily involved Cameron is, it is not a Cameron film. It just isn't. sorry.

And Mortal Engines was not a Peter Jackson directed film despite Peter being just as involved in that movie, as Jim is in Alita.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Don't remember it ever being the 25th

 

That Paul Shirley guy said it was the 28th

i think a previous source stated it was the 31st. But yeah, the 28th is the most recent date that was put out there (though to be honest i cant find the source anymore... so might as well not have been legit).

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Just now, Avatree said:

What do you mean "more than a 'mere' producer" ? A producer role is not a light role, it is heavy involvement with a film. It varies from film to film and within that, different producers have different amounts of involvement.

But ultimately the director, in charge of the production itself (i.e. the filming), was Robert Rodriguez. no matter how heavily involved Cameron is, it is not a Cameron film. It just isn't. sorry.

And Mortal Engines was not a Peter Jackson directed film despite Peter being just as involved in that movie, as Jim is in Alita.

1. Did you see the Hobbits

2. You're wrong anyway

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3 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

1. Did you see the Hobbits

2. You're wrong anyway

I did, and so did a lot of people. They grossed like $2.8 billion. Mortal Engines did not.

 

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4 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said:

There hasn't been any more "leaks" about the quality of the movie on social media?

 

No, but the Shay has just seen the movie, and it's great indeed! :)

 

Just like the last time I saw a very important movie some weeks in advance - and it turned out very well for all: The Force Awakens.

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1000 pages of notes for RR

200 page Jim scriptment, a one intended for Jim to direct himself, so it went into details of filming the scene

Character notes (4 page one for Alita) to explain to the actors how to act their roles

Jim latest 3D Native Cameras

Jim's Avatar WETA team

Jim final say on casting

Jim final say on cut (obiviously he wouldn't re-edit the film as it would be insulting, but changes will have been made)

Jim watching dailies with RR (on nights) and discussing them

Jim's right hand man Jon Landua devoting HALF his time away from Avatar towards Alita

RR commiting to making a Jim Cameron style film

RR part of Jim's school of science fiction

Cinematographer and Composer paid for by Jim (RR normally does both himself (more time for him to direct))

 

All this relies on RR being competent, which is obiviously is. He's proven he can make good films and now he's got all this to help him.

 

There's also one extremely obivious way of knowing RR is right for the job.

 

Jim entrusted to RR, and we trust in Jim.

 

Then of course we've seen the stellar leaked reviews aswell as Jim saying he is proud of what RR has done with Alita.

 

If Jim is proud of you, it means he's impressed.

 

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2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

1000 pages of notes for RR

200 page Jim scriptment, a one intended for Jim to direct himself, so it went into details of filming the scene

Character notes (4 page one for Alita) to explain to the actors how to act their roles

Jim latest 3D Native Cameras

Jim's Avatar WETA team

Jim final say on casting

Jim final say on cut (obiviously he wouldn't re-edit the film as it would be insulting, but changes will have been made)

Jim watching dailies with RR (on nights) and discussing them

Jim's right hand man Jon Landua devoting HALF his time away from Avatar towards Alita

RR commiting to making a Jim Cameron style film

RR part of Jim's school of science fiction

Cinematographer and Composer paid for by Jim (RR normally does both himself (more time for him to direct))

 

All this relies on RR being competent, which is obiviously is. He's proven he can make good films and now he's got all this to help him.

 

There's also one extremely obivious way of knowing RR is right for the job.

 

Jim entrusted to RR, and we trust in Jim.

 

Then of course we've seen the stellar leaked reviews aswell as Jim saying he is proud of what RR has done with Alita.

 

If Jim is proud of you, it means he's impressed.

 

 

Do you think producers on other $200M-budget movies not give the director instructions and notes and guidance...?

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40 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

 he literally told us he was working on Avatar during the days, alita at nights and terminator 6 on weekends

 

 

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Just now, Avatree said:

 

Do you think producers on other $200M-budget movies not give the director instructions and notes and guidance...?

From the producers of Avatar and Titanic... James Cameron and Jon Landau.

 

A little difference there.

 

Some studio exec.. vs Jim.

 

Come on man

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