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NO TIME TO DIE WEEKEND THREAD | Bond 56M, Venom 32M

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BOND

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JAMES BOND

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For a while, James Bond, while popular, felt a little bland. Pierce Brosnan’s run earned less and less praise and excitement as time went on, with many thinking the series was a relic of the past. Especially after the nadir of Die Another Day, the Fleming series was getting too goofy and Brosnan was getting too old. In an era where Jason Bourne and Jack Bauer became the hot new spies in town, Eon had to do something, and they soon found the right guy.

 

Daniel Craig became the new James Bond to immense backlash from fanboys, unaware about what Craig represented. This was a new Bond for a new generation. A Bond that’s dark, emotional, gripping, realistic, yet still full of the intense, fun action we all know and love. And sure enough, this man would become the one actor that truly captured what Ian Fleming envisioned all these years ago. And with such acclaim, Craig’s Bond would take the series to incredible box office heights, with all of his movies ranking as the highest-grossing Bond titles of all time...unadjusted for inflation of course.

 

Of course, every actor has to leave a role at some point. And for Daniel Craig, his last time donning the iconic suit and nifty gadgets is with the appropriately-titled No Time to Die. This film promises globe-trotting adventure, Rami Malek hamming stuff up, and an iconic Billie Eilish song, all wrapped into one glorious package from director Cary Fukunaga. With so much going for it, nothing could have gone wrong here.

 

Then everything went wrong. In a shocking move that confused everybody, No Time to Die was pulled from its April 2020 release, a month before its big debut. Little did we know that Mr. Bond would serve as a trendsetter for what was one of the worst years in history. Three release date changes later, fans can now finally say goodbye to Mr. Craig on the big screen. The way it was always meant to be.

 

And despite being 18 months late, the hype and excitement for this new Bond tale is still sharp. As said before, this represents the end of an era for the series. Not just because its flagship star will retire from the role, but this will be the last Bond release before MGM is swallowed up by the Amazon machine. A cruel irony, that of a Bond villain owning James Bond. We don’t know what the future holds for this series, in terms of actors or distribution, but we can at least enjoy the present with this anticipated release.

 

And now, time for the boring rules part of this post.

 

1. ABSOLUTELY NO SPOILERS. NOT EVEN SPOILERS POSTED UNDER SPOILER TAGS. This rule is applied to all weekend threads, but it's especially true for this weekend. People bought tickets for this movie more than a year ago. So there's a lot of pent-up excitement going on here. And sadly, because this pandemic is still a bitch and a half, not everybody will have a chance to see it right away. So please be careful about what you say.

 

This also applies to other movies in theaters and films/shows recently releasing on streaming. So no Venom 2 spoilers, no Addams Family spoilers, no Many Saints spoilers, no Squid Game spoilers, etc. You are free to give general opinions, but try to avoid going into any further detail. If you do spoil something here, you will be banned. No exceptions. Don't be a dick.

 

2. KEEP YOUR AGENDA OUT OF HERE. We get it. Movie theaters are dead forever. Streaming is a disease. Woke critics don't understand real movies. Marvel is the greatest film series ever created. Disney/Marvel is destroying cinema and Kevin Feige/Bob Chapek/Kathleen Kennedy is the spawn of Satan. James Cameron is the true king of the box office. Yadda yadda yadda.

 

There's a time and place for these kinds of statements...actually, there isn't. But at the very least, it doesn't belong here. If you want to start these beefs related to all of these dumb children's movies, go somewhere else. If you do this kind of stuff here, you will be banned. No exceptions. Don't be a dick.

 

3. THE REPORT AND IGNORE BUTTONS ARE YOUR FRIENDS. See a post that’s breaking the rules? DO NOT RESPOND TO IT. Just hit the Report button, give an explanation to the problem, including the context, then hit "Submit". We the mods will determine the post and see if it's breaking the rules and give out repercussions. See a poster that's consistently annoying? Then just highlight their name and click "Ignore User" on the pop-up. It'll save lives and hopefully cause less of an uproar or infighting. While trolls are already bad, responding to them only makes it worse. So again...Don't be a dick.

 

4. IS OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION OKAY? Well...yes and no. We want people to stick to box office numbers as best as they can. However, there are plenty of dead periods of time with no new numbers. So off-topic discussions are okay to have at these times, so long as they don't impede numbers discussion. So if there's no action, and you want to bemoan the tragic loss of Shrek 4D, argue about whether Ted Lasso's gone downhill, or dissect the Kingdom Hearts storyline, that's totally fine. Just remember that when the numbers come up to keep those discussions down to a minimum. Keep on doing that, and it becomes a chore for many who just want to know the numbers. Don't. Be. A. Dick.

 

And lastly...

 

5. DON'T BE A DICK. Sometimes things get hostile among users. Whatever the reason may be, if you're not following any of these rules or are straight up not being nice, you're going to get the banhammer smashed onto you. Concern trolling? Banned. Revealing that Carnage kills Dumbledore? Banned. Just posting something unpleasant or mean? Banned. And if you're unsure if you can handle being nice for one weekend, then, simply put, get out of here. You probably know what I'm gonna say next.

 

TL;DR No spoilers, no fanboy wars. Keep it nice, keep it neutral, don't attack others, and you'll be fine. If you don't do this stuff, you'll risk a threadban, a suspension, or even a permanent ban, so tread lightly. Outside of that, just have fun! 

 

And three last things,

 

First off, this thread will likely lean into being more domestic-focused. If you want to know about how NTTD is doing in other countries, look at the International section of the forums here. We also have a thread dedicated to NTTD here.

 

Second, the lovely and beautiful @WrathOfHan is set to host the second edition of the Top Horror Movie Countdown, where you get to submit and vote for your favorite horror movies in a glorious countdown extravaganza. The deadline is October 17, only 10 days away. It may seem far, but it will creep up on you like a monster in the night, so try and PM Han your lists as soon as possible. Like with real voting and elections, you can't complain if you didn't vote.

 

 

Third,

 

WE'RE HAVING A SALE

 

@Water Bottle will place it here shortly, but just know that we strongly encourage our users to donate and upgrade their accounts, as it helps keep the lights on here at the forums, and makes sure we stick around for many more awesome weekends in the future.

 

 

And now...

 

WITHOUT FURTHER ADO

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LET'S DO THIS SHIT

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Between Bond opening in the 50s and Venom tanking 75% this might turn into a ugly weekend fast.

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4 minutes ago, CJ Sarandos said:

Between Bond opening in the 50s and Venom tanking 75% this might turn into a ugly weekend fast.

The gimmick lives!

 

Give me 1.1-5.8-19-24-18 btw. 68m OW. Columbus Day (still a thing somehow) will help Sunday quite a bit.

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5 minutes ago, CJ Sarandos said:

Between Bond opening in the 50s and Venom tanking 75% this might turn into a ugly weekend fast.

1)where exactly did you get the ow in the 50s ? without numbers ,2) how did you take that % again without numbers....also it way more likely that the drop is 65-67 than 70+

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3 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

The gimmick lives!

 

Give me 1.1-5.8-19-24-18 btw. 68m OW. Columbus Day (still a thing somehow) will help Sunday quite a bit.

I am still in the 70M OW train, beating Spectre just by a tiny bit (to the point where the Sunday estimate will be under Spectre). 

 

Venom tho, the weekdays are absolutely atrocious. It might actually drop 70%.

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4 minutes ago, john2000 said:

1)where exactly did you get the ow in the 50s ? without numbers ,2) how did you take that % again without numbers....also it way more likely that the drop is 65-67 than 70+

It's called speculation. That thing we do every day on the forum. Where we predict what will happen before numbers based on the limited information we are given. You don't have to like what CJohn is saying, but I don't get you being upset over him predicting things. That's a major aspect of the forum.

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1 minute ago, Eric Safin said:

It's called speculation. That thing we do every day on the forum. Where we predict what will happen before numbers based on the limited information we are given. You don't have to like what CJohn is saying, but I don't get you being upset over him predicting things. That's a major aspect of the forum.

shouldnt predictions also based on something ? so far it seems that bond ow will be close to 70 than 50, as for veno lets see thurday first, but based on somewhat normal patters  a 30 mill sec weekend (67%) is more realistic

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My vaguely non-PC opinion as a liberal person from a very diverse area: we hear these stats that only young people are seeing movies, but what we are also seeing in the data is a very diverse crowd returning to movies, and black/Latino/Asian people are younger in median age than white people in America. Bond is a very, very white franchise. If it struggles, part of the reason might be that it's not drawing non-white people, who tend to lean younger, instead of adults not going back to the movies. Just a theory!

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