NO TIME TO DIE WEEKEND THREAD | Bond 56M, Venom 32M

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

28 minutes ago, John Marston said:

All right fine, let superhero movies be the only thing people go out to see

You'd think people would get tired of quipping CGI poop monsters and buildings exploding eventually... but they don't. I like them as much as everyone else (obviously) but the idea of a 150 min Eternals is exhausting. I'd like to go to the theater and watch adults have a conversation without every cut lasting shorter than 5 seconds

 

Go to the theaters and the trailers for Licorice Pizza, Nightmare Alley... these do nothing for them??

[Plain Old Tele]

2 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

I like them as much as everyone else (obviously)

Join me. 
 

[Cmasterclay]

For whatever it's worth I think 23-24 would still get this over 60 with the holiday weekend on Sunday.

[charlie Jatinder]

Did Deadline just failed their way in getting NTTD right. 👀

[cookieleeann]

Where is Bond's young demographic? Is Bond not relatable enough to millennials and gen Z? 

[TwoMisfits]

1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Thinking 17+, let's see where it lands at end of day.

Venom 2 9.5-10

 

Very good Venom number after the weekdays - doom and gloom for that movie's weekend might have been premature (I said low $20s seemed nuts...although this does seem to prove more and more theaters are shutting down in whole or part on weekdays, so it will be harder to glean trends from weekday numbers for legs)...

[TwoMisfits]

1 hour ago, Eric Safin said:

Mickey's Law: For non-Disney films, everything that can go wrong will go wrong

 

But Venom 2 isn't Mickey or Disney, even though they'd REALLY like it to be:)...

[TwoMisfits]

29 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Did Deadline just failed their way in getting NTTD right. 👀

 

Nah, they originally went $60M up to over Venom 2 and possibly 3 digits - can that range even be right?...and they probably only went that low for the bottom b/c they read our posts:)...

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

I think Venom is a combo of a massive over performance that burned demand and the likelihood of smaller repeat business. Any typical Marvel film tends to do well with rewatches but those people will just want until streaming to watch again.

 

And yes, theaters limiting showtimes and matinees hurts 

[Eric Duncan]

5 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

But Venom 2 isn't Mickey or Disney, even though they'd REALLY like it to be:)...

See that's the secret. People think Venom 2 is Disney. Sony's tricked the masses, therefore it is not affected by Mickey's Law. It's all coming together, you see

 

[WrathOfHan]

22 minutes ago, cookieleeann said:

Where is Bond's young demographic? Is Bond not relatable enough to millennials and gen Z? 

A heavy drinking sociopath is exactly my cup of tea nowadays  

[Menor the Destroyer]

26 minutes ago, cookieleeann said:

Where is Bond's young demographic? Is Bond not relatable enough to millennials and gen Z? 

Imo, though I like the Bond movies well enough, I don't see what they have that will make them a big young draw, at least in the USA where there's no special national attachment to the character. The plots are not particularly different than other spy movies, and the action is good but nothing that really stands out. Their biggest appeal is the character and the tradition but I think Bond is a more relatable character for older audiences, and the tradition doesn't appeal as much if you didn't grow up with these movies. 

[Legion Again]

15 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

But Venom 2 isn't Mickey or Disney, even though they'd REALLY like it to be:)...

As you can see from my name, it's an honory member of the club and thereby protected from Mickey's Law

[charlie Jatinder]

1 minute ago, Menor said:

Imo, though I like the Bond movies well enough

Hi Grandpa.

[Legion Again]

Just now, charlie Jatinder said:

Hi Grandpa.

Hey! Show some respect for your real elders, ya whippersnapper.

[charlie Jatinder]

Make those 16-16.5 (yikes)

and 9-9.5

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[cookie]

3 minutes ago, Menor said:

Imo, though I like the Bond movies well enough, I don't see what they have that will make them a big young draw, at least in the USA where there's no special national attachment to the character. The plots are not particularly different than other spy movies, and the action is good but nothing that really stands out. Their biggest appeal is the character and the tradition but I think Bond is a more relatable character for older audiences, and the tradition doesn't appeal as much if you didn't grow up with these movies. 

IDK if spy movies are popular with young people in general. Fallout had more than half its OW audience be over 35.

[Menor the Destroyer]

4 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

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Called it. The correlation between RT verified and Cinemascore is extremely strong at this point. Speaks well of the reliability of the RT score. I'm actually surprised at how well this works -- would think self-selection would bias the RT more. 

Edited October 9, 2021 by Menor

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

1 minute ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

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Skyfall: A

Spectre: A-

Casino Royale: A-

Quantum of Solace: B-