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NO TIME TO DIE WEEKEND THREAD | Bond 56M, Venom 32M

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As a general observation….it seems to me that US audiences would understandably be more confused as to what’s going on with all of these release windows. 
 

Internationally, if they’re in cinemas then they’re not on TV or PVOD the same day. 

That obviously hasn’t been the case in the states for many films (looking at you WB especially) and it can’t have helped matters. 

 

Many would be forgiven for wondering why Bond isn’t available at home yet. Lol. 
 

The windows need to settle down and have a rhythm again. Which they will. 

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8 minutes ago, wildphantom said:


very good my man. 
my tone was a little off in my first retort to your post. I apologise…although you kind of did deal in absolutes initially, and only a Sith deals in absolutes. ;)

 

I’m hopeful China will show up in big numbers. Australia too should put up near $20 million when they finally get it in early November. 
 

Best wishes to you Sir

 

No worries. Australia will have it on Nov 11 and should be 20M plus I think. Skyfall was 50 and Spectre 28.

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38 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:

 

I think you misunderstand me. I dont want Moore type Bond films. I prefer Connery and Craig's portrayal. My fav Bonds are From Russia with Love and Skyfall. I hated Moonraker as it was way to campy. I personally love the tone of the Bourne first 3 films. I hated Freeguy. 

 

However times are changing and people want more escapism for cinema going and I believe they will lean into that more for the next Bond. They will still try and keep it cool and prestigious and keep that European audience.  

They wouldn't necessarily need to change the tone if they produce great movies. Skyfall and Casino Royale had a great script to back up their grit. I'm all good with some gadgets but I don't want him to become OP like Iron man and we don't want a pretty CGI fest bond movie. People say the Craig films lost some of their competitiveness in the action department but I'd still argue casino Royale has one of the best chase scenes in any blockbuster. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Plain Old Tele said:


NCIS is one of the biggest ongoing hits for CBS. The Olds love Dan Brown, I figure Peacock is fine there, in that regard at least. 

The show was greenlight for NBC and recently moved to Peacock. I am watching it, everything in it screams low budget network TV.

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1 minute ago, CJ Sarandos said:

The show was greenlight for NBC and recently moved to Peacock. I am watching it, everything in it screams low budget network TV.


It feels like Comcast treat Peacock like an afterthought.

 

A new Law and Order could’ve been a huge R-Rated 8 episode draw for Peacock. Instead we get another cheap, crappy NBC version instead.

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Looking at the figures it might almost gross more in the UK than US. I think its around 70 million pounds converted thats 95m US with a great hold and record weekdays. avengers is number 1 at 123 and Skyfall at 100 (pounds) so should cross at least that 1. Amazing with a pandemic going on to be 2nd all time.  

Bond does say 150M in US and 105 million pounds converted in UK thats 143m US. 

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5 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

A $56m opening during pandemic after the last one opened at $70m is fine, we have to resist the urge to call everything either a hit or a flop.


A disaster.

 

MGM thought this was their Endgame.

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8 minutes ago, AJG said:


A disaster.

 

MGM thought this was their Endgame.

 

Its doing great overseas. Overall its been good I would have thought. As much as you have been dumping on it. Money is money regardless of whoever buys the ticket. Bond is a global franchise.  

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$56 million ain’t bad. Not great, but definitely not bad. The movie was in the public awareness a year and a half ago, and a whole lot has happened since then. It’s hard to rebuild something like that, plus there probably is legitimate confusion based on whether or not something is in theaters or on a streaming service right now.

 

Not to mention Spectre didn’t exactly light audiences on fire the same way Skyfall did, so there are a lot of factors at play here. A bit of a bummer Craig’s swan song didn’t receive more thunder, but in a recovering market you’re gonna have your setbacks.

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Ok $56M isn't exactly awful. I was saying to @Let There Be Legion that UK admits dropped 17% or so from Spectre weekend, why should US not drop like 20%, at that time it didn't look like that considering Venom 2 inflated the fears of underestimating the comps but turned out it did.

 

The ageing franchise, no interesting happening for newer audience, I think drops are inevitable. 

 

They still make a bank in Europe, so I guess they aren't going anywhere but that's it.

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48 minutes ago, Ronin46 said:

Looking at the figures it might almost gross more in the UK than US. I think its around 70 million pounds converted thats 95m US with a great hold and record weekdays. avengers is number 1 at 123 and Skyfall at 100 (pounds) so should cross at least that 1. Amazing with a pandemic going on to be 2nd all time.  

Bond does say 150M in US and 105 million pounds converted in UK thats 143m US. 

I'm quite confused at the numbers from the UK. I thought I read 70 million dollars, not pounds, which is it?

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With all pearl clutching in this thread about what the next Bond movies should do, I’m surprised we haven’t had anybody go the “it needs to be hard R!” argument yet. Or is that one we periodically only get in spandex movie discourse?

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Just now, VenomXXR said:

 

It's dollars. About 53 million pounds through Sunday. 

Thanks. I do wonder where it will end up at the end of it's run. It's at 32-33 on the highest grossing films of all time in the UK already.

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